The false early rapture timing doctrine
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Okay, so your image showing mostly the word "PIPTO" ('to fall') demonstrates what, exactly (with regard to the actual word under discussion, in v.3... which is not "pipto [to fall--a verb, by the way]")?
[and if you're going to point out its RELATION to the word "aphistemi," then see this carries a "geographical/spatial" meaning, as here: https://biblehub.com/text/acts/12-10.htm ]
I'm pointing out that the Greek word for "fall" is not there [verse 3].
Also, as pointed out in past posts, the first 7 English translations of the Bible translated this word (in v.3) as "the departure / the departing" BEFORE the kjv came along (later) and changed the word to "a falling away" (dropping the definite article ['the'], while they were at it).
And I'd added: "[and if you're going to point out its RELATION to the word "aphistemi," then see this carries a "geographical/spatial" meaning, as here: https://biblehub.com/text/acts/12-10.htm ] "
Also, as pointed out in past posts, the first 7 English translations of the Bible translated this word (in v.3) as "the departure / the departing" BEFORE the kjv came along (later) and changed the word to "a falling away" (dropping the definite article ['the'], while they were at it).
And I'd added: "[and if you're going to point out its RELATION to the word "aphistemi," then see this carries a "geographical/spatial" meaning, as here: https://biblehub.com/text/acts/12-10.htm ] "
Re: the word in verse 3
Liddell and Scott's Greek-English Lexicon [1871] says, "apostasia - LATER FORM FOR apostasis"...
[and says]
-- apo stasis = "apo [G575] =away" & "stasis [G4714] =a standing" [^ same word there ^] = "a standing away from [a previous standing]" or "a DEPARTURE"
(context determines just "WHAT KIND" of "DEPARTURE" is meant... and the definite article [otherwise unnecessary with this Greek word] refers to a definite event, one previously referred to in the context)...
Liddell and Scott's Greek-English Lexicon [1871] says, "apostasia - LATER FORM FOR apostasis"...
[and says]
-- apo stasis = "apo [G575] =away" & "stasis [G4714] =a standing" [^ same word there ^] = "a standing away from [a previous standing]" or "a DEPARTURE"
(context determines just "WHAT KIND" of "DEPARTURE" is meant... and the definite article [otherwise unnecessary with this Greek word] refers to a definite event, one previously referred to in the context)...
Right.
The SEQUENCE issues in the Olivet Discourse informs us that only Lk21:12-24 takes place "BEFORE" the beginning of birth pangs, whereas the Matthew 24 section (Matt24:15,21 in particular, "GREAT tribulation, such as was not since... nor ever shall be") occurs AFTER "the beginning of birth pangs".
Though there are SIMILARITIES within each of these sections, they are indeed distinct happenings occurring at wholly distinct time-periods (not to mention they each are described in completely distinct ways).
The SEQUENCE issues in the Olivet Discourse informs us that only Lk21:12-24 takes place "BEFORE" the beginning of birth pangs, whereas the Matthew 24 section (Matt24:15,21 in particular, "GREAT tribulation, such as was not since... nor ever shall be") occurs AFTER "the beginning of birth pangs".
Though there are SIMILARITIES within each of these sections, they are indeed distinct happenings occurring at wholly distinct time-periods (not to mention they each are described in completely distinct ways).
(Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken)
(Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other)
(Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other)
I figured as much. I am wondering what his purpose is I have my suspicions but no evidence. He could just be posting it on random forums to shove it down ppls throats but I know of an atheist forum where there is a group of people will go to Christians forums to troll Christians. There was one guy who even boasted what he did here on cc he made a thread about the rapture and laughed as everyone argued and attacked one another. He said we were so easy to to mess with, that was a a few years ago and I don't know what became of him or that forum but the op has the same kind of style so I am not sure
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