This Corona virus pandemic could be the weapon that takes our liberties away , all in the name of saving lives?

[Moses_Young]

This is not our first rodeo. They had to make a vaccine for the Polio virus back in the early 50's.

Obviously not even your first, if you still believe polio was caused primarily by a virus and not by a chemical sprayed on sugar plantations? You know that polio has never been proven to be contagious, right? The closest they got was injecting two monkeys, and neither monkey showed any symptoms, despite the injections, until they were finally injected in their brains. One monkey then died, the other was paralysed. So if the only way to catch polio is for one to get it injected into one's brain, I think we're fairly safe (if it even exists, and the monkeys' symptoms weren't simply due to brain trauma caused by the needles - a reasonable conclusion for anyone to draw). If we're talking about spraying food products with arsenic-based chemicals, though, I'd say that is a major cause debilitating paralysis.

My dad served as a doctor in the army in Germany right after the war and he mostly had to deal with German Measles. There were some serious virus after WW2 and a lot of people are alive today because they developed a vaccine program. My guess is that at least 20% of the people are alive today because of their efforts back then. Now people want to be critical of the vaccines that have done so much to help so many people. The vaccine helps the population. Like a face mask you wear not to protect yourself so much as to protect others. Even if two or three percent have complications. That is nothing compared to the 20% that would die and the people that do die in areas that do not vaccinate.

Vaccines never helped anyone be healthy anymore than taking on debt helped anyone be rich. Those who say otherwise are either ignorant or lying.

 

[Moses_Young]

WHO and Chinese government knew it has human to human transmission and community spread in December 2019. Taiwan CDC , Dr. Li Wenliang and Miles Kwok notified that the virus has human to human transmission in January 31 2020,

Human to human transmission has not been proven even now. This mythical virus hasn't even been isolated, so how could human to human transmission have been proved?

 

[whoisroy]

Human to human transmission has not been proven even now. This mythical virus hasn't even been isolated, so how could human to human transmission have been proved?

Did you read the recent news or articles ? If the virus doesn't have human to human transmission, how did 41,114 American people and 10 million Chinese people died ? Why there's less HK police men died at the virus? Because Chinese government gave them the best masks in the world and they have vaccine! Do not being arrogant before the virus !

 

[Moses_Young]

Wrong, depends on the virus, which of course you deny causes the disease anyway.

Make up your mind.

My mind is made up - try to keep your focus on the topic at hand. I think you will agree that it is accepted, even by pro-vax drug-pushers, that being infected with the natural disease usually provides lifelong immunity from it, but being vaccinated will certainly require booster shots to maintain any alleged immunity.

My views about the mechanisms of what actually cause disease, together with my views about how ineffective vaccination really is, are not needed to demonstrate that even pro-vax science is forced to admit that natural immunity is superior.

 

[whoisroy]

To everyone : Do not think you have 4 legs and 5 heads, everyone is same before the virus. Boris Johnson is richer and more famous than us. He has the best Anti virus system and endless sanitizer , but he still got it ! A contracted guy breathes 100 million Corona\CCP virus out per day , that means there are a lot of Corona virus around the air. Stay home and wear mask ! I wouldn't see more bodies...

 

[EleventhHour]

being infected with the natural disease usually provides lifelong immunity from it,

Again not true, depends on the virus and the individual.

 

[Moses_Young]

I don't know about this yet, as I haven't really looked into it. But, it certainly seems worthy of research.

What do you think we might discover or determine if we compared the coronavirus outbreak patterns to the most recent round of flu vaccines given this past winter season?

"Just a thought..."

Exactly. If coronadeaths are real, the overall death count would have increased from last year to this. That it hasn't shows corona, thus far, is a scamdemic (relabelling deaths to rack up the corona-count). However, there is a question of whether when the 5G really ramps up, whether a real 5G pandemic will occur, as the consequences of 5G seem very deadly.

David Icke did an excellent interview with Brian Rose from London Real about the coronavirus scamdemic. They say it was so popular, it received 7 million (?) hits before it was censored from Youtube. Ignore the new-agey stuff toward the end - Icke is not a Christian, but I think his research into this scam is very good.

https://lbry.tv/@Merovingian:6/david-icke-covid19-interview-banned-by-youtube-:e

There is also Dr. Thomas Cowan, who speaks on the "coronavirus" 5G link. Available on Youtube at present. Also not a Christian, but I think he knows his medicine.

There is also Dr. Shiva, and Dr. Battar (shown in a post above), who do a good job of dismantling the corona-scamdemic from a scientific perspective.

 

[EleventhHour]

Did you read the recent news or articles ? If the virus doesn't have human to human transmission, how did 41,114 American people and 10 million Chinese people died ? Why there's less HK police men died at the virus? Because Chinese government gave them the best masks in the world and they have vaccine! Do not being arrogant before the virus !

I would not bother, the world is also flat you know.

 

[PennEd]

I can repeat this as many times as you want me to. We vaccinate populations NOT individuals. There is always a CHANCE of a risk to the individual. BUT that individual is at risk anyways and if we did NOT have a vaccination program they would be the first to get sick with a disease that is far worse then the side effects they they may be getting from the vaccine. My brother has done medical missionary work in third world nations that do not have vaccines and he has seen patients sick for virus that they could have been vaccinated for. We also see this in Amish, Hasidic & some Christian communities were they have an outbreak of a virus because for religious reasons the people did not vaccinate. West Seneca Christian School, a small private school, lost 10% of its population because parents refused to get kids vaccinated.

A good example of a vaccine is for HPV that can cause cancer. Cervical cancer worldwide has dropped because people are getting this vaccine. Michael Douglas went public because he had throat cancer from this virus. He is lucky to still be alive. Yet people say do not vaccinate our young people or give them condoms because this will encourage them to have sex outside of marriage. So they do not offer them the protection that they could have had. Even the Catholic Church now is allowing condoms. They are not saying it is right to have sex, they are just saying if you do then at least try to protect yourself.

Thought vaccines were supposed to have eradicated this disease? Charge Gates now with crimes against humanity https://www.theguardian.com/global-...tries-caused-by-mutation-of-strain-in-vaccine

 

[Moses_Young]

Again not true, depends on the virus and the individual.

Lol.

People reading these posts will know that you are wrong with that one. I stated "the natural disease usually provides lifelong immunity from the disease". You stated this is not true, meaning that "the natural disease usually does not provide lifelong immunity from the disease".

All someone needs to do to understand this falsehood, is to assess of the people they know, how many times each had a natural childhood illness such as measles, mumps, rubella etc. and how many times each of these people suffered each illness. If most of the people suffered the diseases no more than once (presuming their parents weren't silly enough to vaccinate them), it's just another example of an occasion where you've been less than precise.

 

[Moses_Young]

Did you read the recent news or articles ? If the virus doesn't have human to human transmission, how did 41,114 American people and 10 million Chinese people died ?

Poison? 5G radiation?

Why there's less HK police men died at the virus? Because Chinese government gave them the best masks in the world and they have vaccine! Do not being arrogant before the virus !

Lol. Do you understand what the scientific method is? Just because people die, doesn't mean that any cause you make up is what killed them. How do you know that Satan didn't release a thousand demons to kill all these people? It's a claim with just as much science to it as this coronavirus hoax.

To prove these people died of this coronavirus, the virus first needs to be isolated. It hasn't been.
It then needs to be demonstrated that the virus causes the symptoms claimed (when the isolated virus is transferred to a new host). It hasn't been.
It then needs to be demonstrated that the virus can be isolated from the new host, transferred to yet another host, and cause the same symptoms as documented in this other host. It hasn't been.

Note also that a vaccine requires isolation of the virus. As the virus hasn't been isolated, I'm doubtful the vaccine is what it is being claimed to be (i.e. a vaccine). There is no coronavirus. If something is amiss, it is most likely the 5G that is being rolled out across the world while everyone is in lockdown.

 

[whoisroy]

I would not bother, the world is also flat you know.

Welcome to bother me for 24h! Is the world flat? Allow me to ride my bike and take my ruler, see you later !

 

[whoisroy]

Exactly. If coronadeaths are real, the overall death count would have increased from last year to this. That it hasn't shows corona, thus far, is a scamdemic (relabelling deaths to rack up the corona-count). However, there is a question of whether when the 5G really ramps up, whether a real 5G pandemic will occur, as the consequences of 5G seem very deadly.

David Icke did an excellent interview with Brian Rose from London Real about the coronavirus scamdemic. They say it was so popular, it received 7 million (?) hits before it was censored from Youtube. Ignore the new-agey stuff toward the end - Icke is not a Christian, but I think his research into this scam is very good.

https://lbry.tv/@Merovingian:6/david-icke-covid19-interview-banned-by-youtube-:e

There is also Dr. Thomas Cowan, who speaks on the "coronavirus" 5G link. Available on Youtube at present. Also not a Christian, but I think he knows his medicine.

There is also Dr. Shiva, and Dr. Battar (shown in a post above), who do a good job of dismantling the corona-scamdemic from a scientific perspective.

Wuhan P4 laboratory mixed HIV , SARS and bat's virus together ! Do not think they only created a virus. Creating viruses and reforming sequences is a little harder than make bread if you have machine. They created one hundred kinds of most ruthless viruses in the world. It's hard to to eliminate it for now ! Only Hydroxychloroquine is able to stops it ,but the "atom bomb " is hide in your body in the rest of life, the atom bomb will explode whenever it wants.

 

[Absolutely]

I can repeat this as many times as you want me to. We vaccinate populations NOT individuals. There is always a CHANCE of a risk to the individual. BUT that individual is at risk anyways and if we did NOT have a vaccination program they would be the first to get sick with a disease that is far worse then the side effects they they may be getting from the vaccine. My brother has done medical missionary work in third world nations that do not have vaccines and he has seen patients sick for virus that they could have been vaccinated for. We also see this in Amish, Hasidic & some Christian communities were they have an outbreak of a virus because for religious reasons the people did not vaccinate. West Seneca Christian School, a small private school, lost 10% of its population because parents refused to get kids vaccinated.

A good example of a vaccine is for HPV that can cause cancer. Cervical cancer worldwide has dropped because people are getting this vaccine. Michael Douglas went public because he had throat cancer from this virus. He is lucky to still be alive. Yet people say do not vaccinate our young people or give them condoms because this will encourage them to have sex outside of marriage. So they do not offer them the protection that they could have had. Even the Catholic Church now is allowing condoms. They are not saying it is right to have sex, they are just saying if you do then at least try to protect yourself.

That is not the bible way.
And that mentality is compromise.
Compromise is sure to bring judgement.
Thousands and possibly millions of children are messed up due to vaccines.
It is a real quagmire.

Educate parents and let them choose whether to risk having retarded children.

 

[gb9]

just saw where India is going to start slowly easing social distancing.

now, I ask again, why is the one of the most densely populated countries in the world not being torn apart from this super contagious , super deadly virus??

could it be that they are being honest about the number of cases and deaths?

 

[JohnR7]

But understand myself, and virtually everyone I know, says you will have to forcibly inject, in prison, or kill us.

According to Bill Gates the injection is required if you want to gather in a group of more than 10. So if you want to attend a concert or sporting event then you would need to be vaccinated. Although I do not think he cares a rats tail about the injection itself, he just wants to make the money. Not to say he is going to get away with this. But right now that is his stated purpose. You do not really need tickets to go to church so this may more apply to people that want to fly on an airplane or go to a sporting event. They will be required to have a vaccine.

 

[bojack]

According to Bill Gates the injection is required if you want to gather in a group of more than 10. So if you want to attend a concert or sporting event then you would need to be vaccinated. Although I do not think he cares a rats tail about the injection itself, he just wants to make the money. Not to say he is going to get away with this. But right now that is his stated purpose. You do not really need tickets to go to church so this may more apply to people that want to fly on an airplane or go to a sporting event. They will be required to have a vaccine.

The man is already worth 70 billion, Gates has eugenics and world depopulation in his demon possessed heart inherited from his Nazi father Bill Sr .. I heard him interview about the ''good ole days'' sitting around the table with his dad listening to his dad speak about world depopulation and control

 

[JohnR7]

That is not the bible way.

There is no contradiction between science and the Bible. That is a myth to say you have to be anti science to be a christian. Also what you are saying is a violation of the law. Paul is very clear about following man's law: "But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil." (Romans 13:4) Jesus also says: "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's." (Mark 12:17) This is also a problem when you cause a child to stumble: "It is better for him if a millstone is hung around his neck and he is thrown into the sea, than that he should cause one of these little ones to stumble." (Luke 17:2) Paul says: "But avoid foolish and ignorant disputes, knowing that they generate strife." (2Ti2:23)

There are people at the high school they do not want to do their homework or study their science. They just want to argue and have disputes. I told my son to avoid them and do not allow them to suck you into their debates. It is a waste of time and it is designed to keep the student from getting their homework done and learning science. They will end up with a min wage job somewhere because they never take getting an education serious. If you really want to know God you have to know Science. Then you will see all the laws God used to created this universe and you will see how exact and precise God is. God has impressed upon me many times that He is a God of exact and precise Justice. People who say God is unfair and unjust are not for God, they are against Him.

 

[bojack]

There is no contradiction between science and the Bible. That is a myth to say you have to be anti science to be a christian. Also what you are saying is a violation of the law. Paul is very clear about following man's law: "But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil." (Romans 13:4) Jesus also says: "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's." (Mark 12:17) This is also a problem when you cause a child to stumble: "It is better for him if a millstone is hung around his neck and he is thrown into the sea, than that he should cause one of these little ones to stumble." (Luke 17:2) Paul says: "But avoid foolish and ignorant disputes, knowing that they generate strife." (2Ti2:23)

There are people at the high school they do not want to do their homework or study their science. They just want to argue and have disputes. I told my son to avoid them and do not allow them to suck you into their debates. It is a waste of time and it is designed to keep the student from getting their homework done and learning science. They will end up with a min wage job somewhere because they never take getting an education serious. If you really want to know God you have to know Science. Then you will see all the laws God used to created this universe and you will see how exact and precise God is. God has impressed upon me many times that He is a God of exact and precise Justice. People who say God is unfair and unjust are not for God, they are against Him.

Just curious John . Do you believe in man made global warming ?

 

[tanakh]

It could also be something that takes our lives away. No liberty six feet under.