This Corona virus pandemic could be the weapon that takes our liberties away , all in the name of saving lives?

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Gregoryp

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GaryA said:
This is at best the voice of naive Christians who have good intentions but who are "asleep in the MATRIX" along with the rest of the world. At worst, it is deliberate propaganda to deter Christians from caring enough to want to learn the real truth about the world they live in.
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it is also a sign that they are lovers of the world, not Jesus. The world is there foundation of life. They don't want to hear the truth, as it terrifies them. They will lose the house, the car, there freedoms, the concerts, the sports events, now we cant be having that now, can we? The rest of us know this world was always going to be temporary. Hardly a wise idea to build your foundations on something hollow and without substance for the long term.
 
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Here are some facts. 1/ the WHO is financed and controlled by China and the Bill gates organisation 2/ The WHO is ran by a non doctor who is known to be corrupt and was working in the Zimababwe government, a good friend of Mogabe as well. China placed him there. 3/ The figures I find from reliable government sources state that the Flu kills more of the population per year than this so called virus does 4/ The mainstream media here in Australia is very loud, very shrill, and uses words like deadly, terrifying, danger and other such scare tactics They are also constantly running documentaries about it. 5/ we have had so called pandemics but have never shut down a whole economy , which has done more damage than the virus would have.
 
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Moses_Young said:
There is no proof of a virus
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This is not our first rodeo. They had to make a vaccine for the Polio virus back in the early 50's. My dad served as a doctor in the army in Germany right after the war and he mostly had to deal with German Measles. There were some serious virus after WW2 and a lot of people are alive today because they developed a vaccine program. My guess is that at least 20% of the people are alive today because of their efforts back then. Now people want to be critical of the vaccines that have done so much to help so many people. The vaccine helps the population. Like a face mask you wear not to protect yourself so much as to protect others. Even if two or three percent have complications. That is nothing compared to the 20% that would die and the people that do die in areas that do not vaccinate.
 
JohnR7

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Gregoryp said:
Bill gates organisation
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Bill Gates is in it for the money. The current CEO of Microsoft has had to work hard to overcome the stigma that it is all about making money. Look at Y2K2. That was all about Gates putting money in his pocket. There were spreading rumors that airplanes were going to fall out of the sky and coffee brewers were going to quit working. So everyone ran out and bought a new computer with Bill Gates software on it and he make lots of money. Even though virus after virus would shut down his operating system. I still use Google Chrome so I do not have to worry about that.
 
JohnR7

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to deter Christians from caring enough to want to learn the real truth about the world they live in.
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I do not want to know but it does not look like we have a choice. God is going to expose and reveal people if we want to know or not. We know that He is going to hold us accountable to make the right choices in life.
 
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JohnR7 said:
This is not our first rodeo. They had to make a vaccine for the Polio virus back in the early 50's. My dad served as a doctor in the army in Germany right after the war and he mostly had to deal with German Measles. There were some serious virus after WW2 and a lot of people are alive today because they developed a vaccine program. My guess is that at least 20% of the people are alive today because of their efforts back then. Now people want to be critical of the vaccines that have done so much to help so many people. The vaccine helps the population. Like a face mask you wear not to protect yourself so much as to protect others. Even if two or three percent have complications. That is nothing compared to the 20% that would die and the people that do die in areas that do not vaccinate.
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What you need to understand is - at the very least - the more modern vaccines are a far cry different than the ones from "way back in the day"...

The are a lot of - and, a lot more of - "junk" chemicals in modern vaccines that can do irreparable harm to your body and mind.

The major concern with modern vaccines is that they are based on an agenda of population control - read that two ways - mind control and death.

If you (anyone) just cannot bring yourself to believe this, then - go ahead and take the risk. But, be sure you understand the risk you are taking.
 
GaryA

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JohnR7 said:
I do not want to know but it does not look like we have a choice. God is going to expose and reveal people if we want to know or not. We know that He is going to hold us accountable to make the right choices in life.
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Do you think that "sticking our head in the sand" and not doing anything but "cowering in the corner in fear" is a choice that God will approve of?
 
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JohnR7 said:
This is not our first rodeo. They had to make a vaccine for the Polio virus back in the early 50's. My dad served as a doctor in the army in Germany right after the war and he mostly had to deal with German Measles. There were some serious virus after WW2 and a lot of people are alive today because they developed a vaccine program. My guess is that at least 20% of the people are alive today because of their efforts back then. Now people want to be critical of the vaccines that have done so much to help so many people. The vaccine helps the population. Like a face mask you wear not to protect yourself so much as to protect others. Even if two or three percent have complications. That is nothing compared to the 20% that would die and the people that do die in areas that do not vaccinate.
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This ain't the 50's or the 60's John .. Even WW2 Prescott Bush was helping fund Hitler with his bank , got caught then started the USO show and squirmed his way out of his jam I'll go ahead and say the CIA was involved in JFK's assassination and Bush 41 . School prayer was taken out in 62 .. The US has went downhill since. Reagan opened embassies with the Vatican .. And Bush 41 has basically been in charge since Reagans assassination attempt 39 days after taking office , Reagan worked the outside .. Like the above poster says polio vaccinations in the 50's every body trusted but not today or since Bush 41.. I've taken a tetenas shot because I had to but I don't take flue shots no way ..
 
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Just to remind people that Hydroxychloroquine or Plaquenil has been used for over 50 years, and is very safe. I am on it now for RA, and I was on it for a year in the past. I know many people who are on it. The only bad side effect is it can damage the eyes in .01% of the people who take it.

What is dangerous is chloroquine or Quinine. That is the drug that causes heart disease and much worse problems. I don't think anyone should take it. But people with COVID-19 are being given the 2nd drug, and that is where the side effects are coming from.

Don't be afraid to take Plaquenil if you get really sick from this virus. I know it is quite safe.

I've been isolated for 6 weeks now, because of my suppressed immune system. I am also retired, so I can do that. I feel bad for all the people who have to work in the front lines. I had a friend that worked in Trader Joes. No one was wearing masks or gloves, and no plexiglass protecting the cashiers. She had a break down last week, and took an extended medical leave. This was in San Francisco. Some people can handle the stress, others can't! But the virus is a wild card. Some people are asymptomatic, others have mild symptoms, and some get deathly ill and die. But, no one can predict whom. That is why I think we should keep the lock down on longer..
 
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I was editing my post 628 to include this photo of Prescott Bush with Nixon and Jack Ruby from as early as 1947 and I think Bush 41 was behind Nixon resigning ..
 
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Angela53510 said:
Just to remind people that Hydroxychloroquine or Plaquenil has been used for over 50 years, and is very safe. I am on it now for RA, and I was on it for a year in the past. I know many people who are on it. The only bad side effect is it can damage the eyes in .01% of the people who take it.

What is dangerous is chloroquine or Quinine. That is the drug that causes heart disease and much worse problems. I don't think anyone should take it. But people with COVID-19 are being given the 2nd drug, and that is where the side effects are coming from.

Don't be afraid to take Plaquenil if you get really sick from this virus. I know it is quite safe.

I've been isolated for 6 weeks now, because of my suppressed immune system. I am also retired, so I can do that. I feel bad for all the people who have to work in the front lines. I had a friend that worked in Trader Joes. No one was wearing masks or gloves, and no plexiglass protecting the cashiers. She had a break down last week, and took an extended medical leave. This was in San Francisco. Some people can handle the stress, others can't! But the virus is a wild card. Some people are asymptomatic, others have mild symptoms, and some get deathly ill and die. But, no one can predict whom. That is why I think we should keep the lock down on longer..
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I don't even know anybody that knows anybody with that stuff and I think it was in that video I posted that fear causes some people to have phychosomatic reactions like the opposite of placebo effect .. And these fake news rags are enough to scare anybody to death that don't know any better , plus constant fear will physically wear a body down ..
 
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Susanna said:
I’m a little impressed that you are spending time on these people who clearly don’t know what they are talking about, yet are acting like they are holding PhDs in pert near everything😁.
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This is one of the greatest lies of Satan being perpetuated today - the idea that you cannot possibly know enough about [something] unless you have a PhD - or, that - if you have a PhD, you "automatically" know all there is to know about [something] and should be given "god-like" status... :rolleyes:
 
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GaryA said:
This is one of the greatest lies of Satan being perpetuated today - the idea that you cannot possibly know enough about [something] unless you have a PhD - or, that - if you have a PhD, you "automatically" know all there is to know about [something] and should be given "god-like" status... :rolleyes:
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I think you do understand that the PhD part was a joke to underline my point. And bringing in Satan? Wow, GaryA...just wow...
 
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pert near...lol...thought that was only a Kentucky word...haha

Seriously though, there are so many things going on with this virus now I don't know who or what to believe. I used to laugh at all the conspiracy theories going around before this pandemic. Right before this whole thing happened, I was getting on to my bf for talking about conspiracy theories and all that end of time stuff. Now it seems like the world has turned upside down....Like I said, now I don't know who to believe with this...I just know something ain't right.

I'm trying to listen to all the info out there right now, and I can see a little truth in what most people from each side are saying. It is bad to spread the virus and endanger others; it is also bad to totally shut down the economy and start taking rights to freedom....So there must be some type of balance to all of this. IDK...
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Lol, people are using it all the way from here in Texas to the Canadian border😁.
 
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Susanna said:
I think you do understand that the PhD part was a joke to underline my point. And bringing in Satan? Wow, GaryA...just wow...
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I am talking about people who have swallowed that lie and take it very seriously.

I was just making a point, also.
 
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bojack said:
I don't take flue shots no way ..
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flu shots tend not to be effective. There have been outbreaks of virus in groups of people that refuse to be vaccinated. The Amish, Hasidic & some Christian groups. Also of course they still have a lot of virus in third world nations where they do not vaccinate.
 
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