THIRD TEMPLE NEWS

[Absolutely]

In scripture Jesus is Israel revealed in the New Covenant. Only believers make up his body.

A third temple rejects his death on the cross and reinstitutes animal sacrifices that cannot save.

...and is not built as such under Gods direction.
It is built in rejection to what God has established in the new covenant.

It is strictly OT covenant Jewish centered.

When you see Gods judgement on his own people while using the devil or other nations to do it,it is not one dimensional.

Same with the events in revelation.

 

[biker]

Do you believe in Free Will? It's why the Reformed launched the Reformation. Also Luther.

Free Will is in the Torah, which the version we have comes from AMOS some 4700 years ago. Do you even know what you are talking about because this is way too easy of an argument here?

 

[azamzimtoti]

The "man of sin/lawlessness" was related to the 1st century.

(2 Th 2:3 Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction)

(2 Th 2:4 who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God)

(2 Th 2:5 Do you not remember that while I was still with you, I was telling you these things? )

(2 Th 2:6 And you know what restrains him now, so that in his time he will be revealed)

(2 Th 2:7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way.)

Paul in the above states the man was alive when the wrote the letter, but was being restrained. The man perished within the regular lifetime of a man 70 odd years or so.

Context and audience relevance is important to understand the above. To posit the man of sin past the 1st century is specious.

 

[biker]

The "man of sin/lawlessness" was related to the 1st century.

(2 Th 2:3 Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction)

(2 Th 2:4 who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God)

(2 Th 2:5 Do you not remember that while I was still with you, I was telling you these things? )

(2 Th 2:6 And you know what restrains him now, so that in his time he will be revealed)

(2 Th 2:7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way.)

Paul in the above states the man was alive when the wrote the letter, but was being restrained. The man perished within the regular lifetime of a man 70 odd years or so.

Context and audience relevance is important to understand the above. To posit the man of sin past the 1st century is specious.

The STUPID is real in this thread!

Since we know history from then to now, WHO sat in the Temple acting like God?

NO ONE has and that is the point!

It still is going to happen.

 

[azamzimtoti]

The STUPID is real in this thread!

Since we know history from then to now, WHO sat in the Temple acting like God?

NO ONE has and that is the point!

It still is going to happen.

So you were around in the 1st century?

 

[Dave-L]

Free Will is in the Torah, which the version we have comes from AMOS some 4700 years ago. Do you even know what you are talking about because this is way too easy of an argument here?

The OT depends on it. But Grace is the exact opposite of it in the gospel.

 

[biker]

So you were around in the 1st century?

We have historians.

And Jesus said there are antichrists this moment (when He was speaking in Matthew 24) but He said, the real Antichrist will come right before the final 7 years.
Paul is saying what Jesus said, the Antichrist spirit has been here for 2,000 years, but the physical Antichrist is still to come.

 

[biker]

The OT depends on it. But Grace is the exact opposite of it in the gospel.

You still sin by wanting to sin, not by accident. Free Will is still active.

 

[Dave-L]

We have historians.

And Jesus said there are antichrists this moment (when He was speaking in Matthew 24) but He said, the real Antichrist will come right before the final 7 years.
Paul is saying what Jesus said, the Antichrist spirit has been here for 2,000 years, but the physical Antichrist is still to come.

This has no scripture to support it. If so, present it.

 

[Dave-L]

You still sin by wanting to sin, not by accident. Free Will is still active.

If the will was free, you could choose not to be tempted.

 

[biker]

This has no scripture to support it. If so, present it.

ܥܢܐ ܝܫܘܥ ܘܐܡܪ ܠܗܘܢ ܐܙܕܗܪܘ ܠܐ ܐܢܫ ܢܛܥܝܟܘܢ
4 Eshu {Yeshua} answered and said unto them, “Beware, don’t let anyone deceive you.

ܣܓܝܐܐ ܓܝܪ ܢܐܬܘܢ ܒܫܡܝ ܘܢܐܡܪܘܢ ܕܐܢܐ ܐܢܐ ܡܫܝܚܐ ܘܣܓܝܐܐ ܢܛܥܘܢ
5 For, many will come in My Name, and will affirm that “ENA NA Meshikha {I AM, The Anointed One},” and they will deceive many.

ܥܬܝܕܝܢ ܐܢܬܘܢ ܕܝܢ ܠܡܫܡܥ ܩܐܪܣܐ ܘܫܡܥܐ ܕܩܪܒܐ ܚܙܘ ܠܐ ܬܬܕܘܕܘܢ ܘܠܐ ܓܝܪ ܕܟܠܗܝܢ ܢܗܘܝܢ ܐܠܐ ܠܐ ܥܕܟܝܠ ܫܘܠܡܐ
6 But, you are destined to hear of battles and reports of wars. See that you are not disturbed, for, it is necessary that all these things should happen, but, it isn’t yet the shulama {the end}.

ܢܩܘܡ ܓܝܪ ܥܡܐ ܥܠ ܥܡܐ ܘܡܠܟܘܬܐ ܥܠ ܡܠܟܘܬܐ ܘܢܗܘܘܢ ܟܦܢܐ ܘܡܘܬܢܐ ܘܙܘܥܐ ܒܕܘܟܐ ܕܘܟܐ
7 For, Ama {Nation/People} will rise against Ama {Nation/People}, and Malkutha {Kingdom} against Malkutha {Kingdom}, and there will be kaphne {famines} and methane {plagues} and zawe {earthquakes} in various places.

ܗܠܝܢ ܕܝܢ ܟܠܗܝܢ ܪܫܐ ܐܢܝܢ ܕܚܒܠܐ
8 But, all these things are the beginning of sorrows.

ܗܝܕܝܢ ܢܫܠܡܘܢܟܘܢ ܠܐܘܠܨܢܐ ܘܢܩܛܠܘܢܟܘܢ ܘܬܗܘܘܢ ܣܢܝܐܝܢ ܡܢ ܟܠܗܘܢ ܥܡܡܐ ܡܛܠ ܫܡܝ
9 Then they will deliver you unto afflictions, and they will kill you, and you will be hated by all Nations because of My Name.

ܗܝܕܝܢ ܢܬܟܫܠܘܢ ܣܓܝܐܐ ܘܢܣܢܘܢ ܚܕ ܠܚܕ ܘܢܫܠܡܘܢ ܚܕ ܠܚܕ
10 Then, many will stumble {be offended or fall away} and will hate each other and will betray each other.

ܘܣܓܝܐܐ ܢܒܝܐ ܕܓܠܐ ܢܩܘܡܘܢ ܘܢܛܥܘܢ ܠܣܓܝܐܐ
11 And many nabiye nagale {lying/false prophets} will arise and they will deceive many.

ܘܡܛܠ ܣܓܝܐܘܬ ܥܘܠܐ ܢܦܘܓ ܚܘܒܐ ܕܣܓܝܐܐ
12 And because of the abundance of iniquity, the love of many will become cold.

ܡܢ ܕܡܣܝܒܪ ܕܝܢ ܥܕܡܐ ܠܚܪܬܐ ܗܘ ܢܚܐ
13 But, the one who endures until the end, he will have life.

ܘܬܬܟܪܙ ܗܕܐ ܣܒܪܬܐ ܕܡܠܟܘܬܐ ܒܟܠܗ ܥܠܡܐ ܠܣܗܕܘܬܐ ܕܟܠܗܘܢ ܥܡܡܐ ܘܗܝܕܝܢ ܢܐܬܐ ܫܘܠܡܐ
14 And this Sabartha d’Malkutha {Hopeful Message/Gospel of The Kingdom} will be proclaimed in all the world for a testimony unto all the Amme {the Peoples/the Nations}, and then the shulama {the end} will come.

ܡܐ ܕܝܢ ܕܚܙܝܬܘܢ ܐܬܐ ܛܢܦܬܐ ܕܚܘܪܒܐ ܕܐܬܐܡܪ ܒܕܢܝܐܝܠ ܢܒܝܐ ܕܩܝܡܐ ܒܕܘܟܬܐ ܩܕܝܫܬܐ ܗܘ ܕܩܪܐ ܢܣܬܟܠ
15 Now, when you have seen the unclean sign of desolation that was spoken by DanyIyl Nabiya {Daniel, the Prophet}, that stands in The Duktha Qadisha {The Holy Place}, (he who reads will understand),

ܗܝܕܝܢ ܐܝܠܝܢ ܕܒܝܗܘܕ ܐܢܘܢ ܢܥܪܩܘܢ ܠܛܘܪܐ
16 then those who are in Yehud {Judea} should flee unto the tura {the mountain}.

ܘܗܘ ܕܒܐܓܪܐ ܗܘ ܠܐ ܢܚܘܬ ܠܡܣܒ ܕܒܒܝܬܗ
17 And he who is on the rooftop, should not come down to take his house {i.e. household items/possessions}.

ܘܐܝܢܐ ܕܒܚܩܠܐ ܗܘ ܠܐ ܢܬܗܦܟ ܠܒܣܬܪܗ ܠܡܣܒ ܠܒܫܗ
18 And he who is in the field, should not return back to take his clothes.

ܘܝ ܕܝܢ ܠܒܛܢܬܐ ܘܠܐܝܠܝܢ ܕܡܝܢܩܢ ܒܗܢܘܢ ܝܘܡܬܐ
19 But woe unto the pregnant ones, and unto those who are sucking {i.e. babies who are feeding/nursing} in those days.

ܨܠܘ ܕܝܢ ܕܠܐ ܢܗܘܐ ܥܪܘܩܝܟܘܢ ܒܣܬܘܐ ܘܠܐ ܒܫܒܬܐ
20 But pray that your flight {travel} will not be during sathua {winter}, and not during The Shabtha {The Sabbath}.

ܢܗܘܐ ܓܝܪ ܗܝܕܝܢ ܐܘܠܨܢܐ ܪܒܐ ܐܝܢܐ ܕܠܐ ܗܘܐ ܡܢ ܪܫܝܬܗ ܕܥܠܡܐ ܘܥܕܡܐ ܠܗܫܐ ܘܠܐ ܢܗܘܐ
21 For then will be ultsana raba {great tribulation}, which hasn’t been from the beginning of the world until now, and neither will be.

ܘܐܠܘ ܠܐ ܐܬܟܪܝܘ ܝܘܡܬܐ ܗܢܘܢ ܠܐ ܚܝܐ ܗܘܐ ܟܠ ܒܣܪ ܡܛܠ ܓܒܝܐ ܕܝܢ ܢܬܟܪܘܢ ܝܘܡܬܐ ܗܢܘܢ
22 And if those days were not shortened, not any flesh would live, but, on account of The Gabaya {The Elect/The Chosen Ones}, those days will be shortened.

ܗܝܕܝܢ ܐܢ ܐܢܫ ܢܐܡܪ ܠܟܘܢ ܗܐ ܗܪܟܐ ܗܘ ܡܫܝܚܐ ܐܘ ܗܪܟܐ ܠܐ ܬܗܝܡܢܘܢ
23 Then, if anyone might say unto you, Look! Here is Meshikha {The Anointed One}, or there, don’t believe them.

ܢܩܘܡܘܢ ܓܝܪ ܡܫܝܚܐ ܕܓܠܐ ܘܢܒܝܐ ܕܟܕܒܘܬܐ ܘܢܬܠܘܢ ܐܬܘܬܐ ܪܘܪܒܬܐ ܐܝܟ ܕܢܛܥܘܢ ܐܢ ܡܫܟܚܐ ܐܦ ܠܓܒܝܐ
24 For, false meshikhe {anointed ones} and nabiye d’kadabutha {prophets of falsehood} will arise, and they will give great signs in order to deceive, if possible, even The Gabaya {The Elect/The Chosen Ones}.

ܗܐ ܩܕܡܬ ܐܡܪܬ ܠܟܘܢ
25 Behold, I have told you beforehand.

ܐܢ ܗܟܝܠ ܢܐܡܪܘܢ ܠܟܘܢ ܗܐ ܒܚܘܪܒܐ ܗܘ ܠܐ ܬܦܩܘܢ ܐܘ ܕܗܐ ܒܬܘܢܐ ܗܘ ܠܐ ܬܗܝܡܢܘܢ
26 If therefore they might say unto you, Look! He is in the khurba {the wilderness}, don’t go out. Or, Look! He is in the thuana {the inner chamber}, don’t believe them.

ܐܝܟܢܐ ܓܝܪ ܕܒܪܩܐ ܢܦܩ ܡܢ ܡܕܢܚܐ ܘܡܬܚܙܐ ܥܕܡܐ ܠܡܥܪܒܐ ܗܟܢܐ ܬܗܘܐ ܡܐܬܝܬܗ ܕܒܪܗ ܕܐܢܫܐ
27 For, as the lightning comes out from the East and is seen as far as the West {lit. the sun setting}, thus will be the coming of The Son of Man.

ܐܝܟܐ ܕܝܢ ܕܢܗܘܐ ܦܓܪܐ ܬܡܢ ܢܬܟܢܫܘܢ ܢܫܪܐ
28 But, the place where the phagra {the body i.e. the carcass} shall be, there the vultures will gather.

ܡܚܕܐ ܕܝܢ ܒܬܪ ܐܘܠܨܢܐ ܕܝܘܡܬܐ ܗܢܘܢ ܫܡܫܐ ܢܚܫܟ ܘܣܗܪܐ ܠܐ ܢܚܘܐ ܢܘܗܪܗ ܘܟܘܟܒܐ ܢܦܠܘܢ ܡܢ ܫܡܝܐ ܘܚܝܠܐ ܕܫܡܝܐ ܢܬܬܙܝܥܘܢ
29 Then immediately after the tribulation of those days, the shemsha {the sun} will be darkened and the sahra {the moon} will not show nuhreh {his light}, and the kukbe {the stars} will fall from the Shmaya {the Heavens}, and the Khayle {the Powers} of the Shmaya {the Heavens} will be shaken.

ܘܗܝܕܝܢ ܢܬܚܙܐ ܢܝܫܗ ܕܒܪܗ ܕܐܢܫܐ ܒܫܡܝܐ ܘܗܝܕܝܢ ܢܪܩܕܢ ܟܠܗܝܢ ܫܪܒܬܐ ܕܐܪܥܐ ܘܢܚܙܘܢ ܠܒܪܗ ܕܐܢܫܐ ܕܐܬܐ ܥܠ ܥܢܢܝ ܫܡܝܐ ܥܡ ܚܝܠܐ ܘܫܘܒܚܐ ܣܓܝܐܐ
30 And then, The Sign of The Son of Man will appear in the Shmaya {the Heavens}, and then all the tribes of the Earth will mourn, and they will see The Son of Man who comes upon the Nanay Shmaya {the Clouds of the Heavens} with great power and glory.

 

[Washed]

If the will was free, you could choose not to be tempted.

You freely chose to succumb to the temptation of Calvinism.

You shouldn’t have.

 

[biker]

If the will was free, you could choose not to be tempted.

You cannot control Satan from tempting you, you can only control your actions after being tempted.

What kind of baloney do you follow?
What is your False Doctrine?

 

[biker]

Eshu (Yeshua-Jesus) here is quoting Daniel:


ܡܐ ܕܝܢ ܕܚܙܝܬܘܢ ܐܬܐ ܛܢܦܬܐ ܕܚܘܪܒܐ ܕܐܬܐܡܪ ܒܕܢܝܐܝܠ ܢܒܝܐ ܕܩܝܡܐ ܒܕܘܟܬܐ ܩܕܝܫܬܐ ܗܘ ܕܩܪܐ ܢܣܬܟܠ
15 Now, when you have seen the unclean sign of desolation that was spoken by DanyIyl Nabiya {Daniel, the Prophet}, that stands in The Duktha Qadisha {The Holy Place}, (he who reads will understand),

 

[biker]

Eshu (Yeshua-Jesus) here is quoting Daniel:


ܡܐ ܕܝܢ ܕܚܙܝܬܘܢ ܐܬܐ ܛܢܦܬܐ ܕܚܘܪܒܐ ܕܐܬܐܡܪ ܒܕܢܝܐܝܠ ܢܒܝܐ ܕܩܝܡܐ ܒܕܘܟܬܐ ܩܕܝܫܬܐ ܗܘ ܕܩܪܐ ܢܣܬܟܠ
15 Now, when you have seen the unclean sign of desolation that was spoken by DanyIyl Nabiya {Daniel, the Prophet}, that stands in The Duktha Qadisha {The Holy Place}, (he who reads will understand),

STANDS in the Holy Place (physical Temple)

 

[Absolutely]

The "man of sin/lawlessness" was related to the 1st century.

(2 Th 2:3 Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction)

(2 Th 2:4 who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God)

(2 Th 2:5 Do you not remember that while I was still with you, I was telling you these things? )

(2 Th 2:6 And you know what restrains him now, so that in his time he will be revealed)

(2 Th 2:7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way.)

Paul in the above states the man was alive when the wrote the letter, but was being restrained. The man perished within the regular lifetime of a man 70 odd years or so.

Context and audience relevance is important to understand the above. To posit the man of sin past the 1st century is specious.

So you were around in the 1st century?

That would mean the mark,no buying /selling,millions beheaded,the flying scorpions,fiery hailstones,the 2 witnesses and other things were/are a fairy tale

 

[biker]

^ That is CHRIST, you know, God, the WORD in flesh speaking.

 

[biker]

I want to know what your False Doctrine is Dave-L and azamzimtoti?

 

[biker]

Tell me NOW!

 

[VCO]

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