The Kingdom Of God is Within You

[miknik5]

I don’t believe you’re understanding Matthew 11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

If the kingdom of heaven is the spiritual kingdom that lives within you, then it can be taken from within you by force. Is this possible? Can the spiritual kingdom be taken away from someone by force? Of course not, therefore the kingdom of heaven physical and the kingdom of God is spiritual.

Yes, sir...it can be taken away from you by violence, (not that you will lose ETERNAL LIFE, but some will use violence and kill because they don´t believe and they are offended by THE TRUTH...

This is what HE was talking about when HE said, the KINGDOM is taken by force and forceful men lay hold of it...these men, who were supposed to be the ones who had a relationship with GOD, were violent men and knew NO MERCY...they killed the prophets...anyone who came speaking something they did not want to hear because they did not have the right ears to hear....

This is also why HE said, you shut the door, do not enter in yourselfs, and do not let those who want to enter in access...

Those who kill the prophets...and HE said, HE would avenge the death of ALL the prophets...

HE goes on to say, Therefore, I will send you ¨prophets¨, (who are really witnesses who will be testifying of CHRIST), that they would be stoned and killed so that on them, (the ones who say they know and can make a right judgment but really can´t) will the (guilt) blood of all the prophets fall...

 

[miknik5]

Agree, my point exactly.

I´m not sure it was the same point...I know that HE is king but HE is a long-suffering and patient KING....the time of that ministry will not come until the very last hour...

It doesn´t remove HIS AUTHORITY and RULE over all things created...it just means HE is withholding what is deserved...and instead gives GRACE and MERCY...

 

[Blain]

Yes, sir...it can be taken away from you by violence, (not that you will lose ETERNAL LIFE, but some will use violence and kill because they don´t believe and they are offended by THE TRUTH...

This is what HE was talking about when HE said, the KINGDOM is taken by force and forceful men lay hold of it...these men, who were supposed to be the ones who had a relationship with GOD, were violent men and knew NO MERCY...they killed the prophets...anyone who came speaking something they did not want to hear because they did not have the right ears to hear....

This is also why HE said, you shut the door, do not enter in yourselfs, and do not let those who want to enter in access...

Those who kill the prophets...and HE said, HE would avenge the death of ALL the prophets...

HE goes on to say, Therefore, I will send you ¨prophets¨, (who are really witnesses who will be testifying of CHRIST), that they would be stoned and killed so that on them, (the ones who say they know and can make a right judgment but really can´t) will the (guilt) blood of all the prophets fall...

Is this going to be in the tribulation?

 

[miknik5]

I don’t believe you’re understanding Matthew 11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

If the kingdom of heaven is the spiritual kingdom that lives within you, then it can be taken from within you by force. Is this possible? Can the spiritual kingdom be taken away from someone by force? Of course not, therefore the kingdom of heaven physical and the kingdom of God is spiritual.

I understand clearly...
I think you need to read Matthew 11 and 12 together....

 

[miknik5]

Is this going to be in the tribulation?

This is happening even now.,..every martyr who suffered and was killed because they held to the TESTIMONY of JESUS, is those prophets/witnesses whom HE sent, and whose blood HE will avenge....

And also will happen in the tribulation....

 

[Blain]

This is happening even now.,..every martyr who suffered and was killed because they held to the TESTIMONY of JESUS, is those prophets/witnesses whom HE sent, and whose blood HE will avenge....

And also will happen in the tribulation....

I se... the reason I ask is because a while back I had a vision and a word placed on my heart and I am not sure what to make of it and what you said for some reason brought it back to mind but I dare not say it here but what I saw I think was the tribulation

 

[Blain]

Also before anyone asks I am not claiming to be a prophet by any means I apologize if it appeared as such

 

[John146]

Yes, sir...it can be taken away from you by violence, (not that you will lose ETERNAL LIFE, but some will use violence and kill because they don´t believe and they are offended by THE TRUTH...

This is what HE was talking about when HE said, the KINGDOM is taken by force and forceful men lay hold of it...these men, who were supposed to be the ones who had a relationship with GOD, were violent men and knew NO MERCY...they killed the prophets...anyone who came speaking something they did not want to hear because they did not have the right ears to hear....

This is also why HE said, you shut the door, do not enter in yourselfs, and do not let those who want to enter in access...

Those who kill the prophets...and HE said, HE would avenge the death of ALL the prophets...

HE goes on to say, Therefore, I will send you ¨prophets¨, (who are really witnesses who will be testifying of CHRIST), that they would be stoned and killed so that on them, (the ones who say they know and can make a right judgment but really can´t) will the (guilt) blood of all the prophets fall...

The spiritual cannot be taken by force. The spiritual kingdom within the believer cannot be taken away.

 

[John146]

I´m not sure it was the same point...I know that HE is king but HE is a long-suffering and patient KING....the time of that ministry will not come until the very last hour...

It doesn´t remove HIS AUTHORITY and RULE over all things created...it just means HE is withholding what is deserved...and instead gives GRACE and MERCY...

He has given earthly authority over to Satan and the principalities in the high laces, and they in turn control human authority.

 

[miknik5]

Also before anyone asks I am not claiming to be a prophet by any means I apologize if it appeared as such

Also before anyone asks I am not claiming to be a prophet by any means I apologize if it appeared as such

Thatś okay...youŕe a witness...we all are...all who hold to the TESTIMONY of JESUS...for...the very TESTIMONY of JESUS...IS...THE SPIRIT of PROPHECY....

Every WORD of GOD...spoke of CHRiST....

To the TESTIMONY and the law....if they speak not according to the WORD, it is because there is no light in them....

 

[John146]

I understand clearly...
I think you need to read Matthew 11 and 12 together....

At the second coming of Jesus as King, then the kingdoms of this world will become the kingdoms of our God.

 

[miknik5]

The spiritual cannot be taken by force. The spiritual kingdom within the believer cannot be taken away.

Yes sir...but those who are of THE SPIRIT, will be persecuted....

 

[John146]

Yes sir...but those who are of THE SPIRIT, will be persecuted....

Persecuted, yes, the spiritual kingdom taken from us, no way. It will always reside within the believer.

 

[miknik5]

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Jesus said to repent, for the kingdom is at hand.

Matt 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.”

These are equivalent.

Some kooky teachers have claimed this means that there is some inner spiritual reservoir, even amongst unbelievers, that needs to be tapped. An example of this comes from Bob Jones, a self-professed seer:

I am studying Gnosticism in a history class online, and I believe Bob Jones' idea is very close to Gnosticism...the claim that there is some divine spark within the unsaved person. I might be misunderstanding Jones, though. It is hard to make sense out of some charismatic utterances.

I think you should review Isaiah 8...
There is only ONE TRUTH...

 

[miknik5]

Persecuted, yes, the spiritual kingdom taken from us, no way. It will always reside within the believer.

Of course. But those who are spiritual and belong to the KING...will be persecuted...
HE has all authority over all things, sir....
Satan does go out like a roaring lion and is able to steal from GOD what should rightfully belong to GOD...but this is all temporary.

There are two kingdoms being built up now sir...
Most who have not entered into THE KINGDOM now....are still outside the DOOR...

Our work is to make it clear that there are two kingdoms and to point to THE DOOR...who is CHRIST.

Yet, this is all temporary and will continue...the wheat and the tares will grow together...until the end...

However, your understanding that the Kingdom of Heaven is somehow translated to mean that other fatherś kingdom, is wrong...

He is only the prince of the air...and if you will remember, the heavens were separated by a firmament...
Satan is the prince of the air sir...not THE HEAVENS...that is GODŚ THRONE alone...

 

[miknik5]

He has given earthly authority over to Satan and the principalities in the high laces, and they in turn control human authority.

HE holds back things sir so that we are not completely destroyed. It is HIS GRACE upon ALL MEN (believer and unbeliever) that we are not completely destroyed.

But, when HE who holds all things back is taken out of the way, then will satan have a (temporary) free reign of the earth....

 

[miknik5]

If you reviewed the story of JOB, you would notice that GOD removed HIS HEDGE (HIS PROTECTION)...and then satan went after Job...
And this season of suffering was a temporary season...GOD withdrew HIS HEDGE, HE who holds all things back, was temporarily delayed....

 

[miknik5]

I se... the reason I ask is because a while back I had a vision and a word placed on my heart and I am not sure what to make of it and what you said for some reason brought it back to mind but I dare not say it here but what I saw I think was the tribulation

What Daniel saw made him sick

 

[Blain]

What Daniel saw made him sick

If you saw what I did you might lose your lunch, lets just say the smell of melted human flesh is a sickening smell

 

[Blain]

Persecuted, yes, the spiritual kingdom taken from us, no way. It will always reside within the believer.

If I am not mistaken you and miknik are both on point I agree that the spiritual kingdom cannot be taken away from us because Jesus says this
John 6:39
And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall lose none of those He has given Me, but raise them up at the last day. And it is also true that we who bare his spirit will be persecuted severely far worse than we can imagine for standing for him and representing the truth but he who lives in us and he who reigns on the throne will not abandon us.