So many anti charismatic smear jobs allowed?

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You don't have that ability, you got me wrong already. Nice threat though. LOL.


A wise person would never claim someone does not have that ability. And your posts reveal more about you than if you were standing before me talking.
 
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That does seem very logical. But if I was a nonbeliever reading this thread and seeing how several have blatantly attacked a specific group. I might go off how the followers have made themselves appear, not by what Scripture indicates. I would have a very hard time thinking those people represented anything I would ever desire to be or to become.

Are you saying we should respect those who mock God with stammering lips through the oral traditions of men ?

God has designed a sign against those warning us of those who do mock him refusing to hear the word of God as it is written as the exclusive authority by which men can believe God not seen .

They wanted to do their own self righteous work of self edifying, performing wonders as wonderment. Making noises like babies with no understanding .

Yet for all that they still refuse to believe as it is written alone. That sign is found all over the world . . make a noise fall backward wonder if they are mocking God ? They would be in need of the light of the gospel.

But they would not listen to him. So the Lord’s words will be senseless sounds to them:

“Saw lasaw saw lasaw.
Qaw laqaw qaw laqaw.
Ze’er sham ze’er sham.”


When the people try to walk, they will fall backwards. They will be defeated, trapped, and captured.Isaiah 28:13
 

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Are you saying we should respect those who mock God with stammering lips through the oral traditions of men ?

God has designed a sign against those warning us of those who do mock him refusing to hear the word of God as it is written as the exclusive authority by which men can believe God not seen .

They wanted to do their own self righteous work of self edifying, performing wonders as wonderment. Making noises like babies with no understanding .

Yet for all that they still refuse to believe as it is written alone. That sign is found all over the world . . make a noise fall backward wonder if they are mocking God ? They would be in need of the light of the gospel.

But they would not listen to him. So the Lord’s words will be senseless sounds to them:

“Saw lasaw saw lasaw.
Qaw laqaw qaw laqaw.
Ze’er sham ze’er sham.”


When the people try to walk, they will fall backwards. They will be defeated, trapped, and captured.Isaiah 28:13
But Garee, don't you believe that "speaking in new tongues" is merely "speaking the gospel"? Which is it?
 

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Then you should read all threads. And you should read what I have written and not put your thoughts in it. I have nowhere written, that people here told me I am not saved. But what people claim in there posts is, f.e. that you only can worship God if you do it by speaking in tongues. Ore that you are not able to serve God, if you deny the baptism with the Holy Spirit which enables you to serve the Lord. But with this baptism they mean the baptism which is given since 1901 in pentecostal and later in charismatic movements. Also, I do not open threads with charismatic ore pentecostal claimings. Do you mean I should stay away from this threads, because I dont agree with those teachings? Well, if this chatroom is an pentecostal/charismatic chatroom. I have no Problems to leave it. Till now I thought this is an Christian chatroom. Where it is allowed to questionable the claimes which are made in the threads.
If my post are such unwanted, then I asked for to ban me.
To be really honest with you, I think you're largely exaggerating, or making things up.
I may not be here all the time, but I've been a member since 2014.'
In my experience, I've seen someone claim this on the forum (or even not claim this just mention spiritual gifts is enough), people would gather it would be pointed out that this is NOT a salvation requirement.
Such was NEVER let standing, it always gets massive opposition on this forum.
I personally don't oppose spiritual gifts themselves exist but oppose claims of salvation requirement (although I've rarely seen it claimed here).
So I don't know what threads are you talking about.
Maybe a few individual posts, which is by no means a general consensus on this forum.
Nobody is telling you leave, looks more like you want anyone who disagrees with you to leave from the forum, instead of facing correction.
 
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But it is rather clear you have a whiny personality and soul. You probably hinder more progress than support it in terms of God. You should stop posting at me unless you want me to reveal who you really are!
LOL That would make you the revealer of the secrets of men.
 
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Are you saying we should respect those who mock God with stammering lips through the oral traditions of men ?

God has designed a sign against those warning us of those who do mock him refusing to hear the word of God as it is written as the exclusive authority by which men can believe God not seen .

They wanted to do their own self righteous work of self edifying, performing wonders as wonderment. Making noises like babies with no understanding .

Yet for all that they still refuse to believe as it is written alone. That sign is found all over the world . . make a noise fall backward wonder if they are mocking God ? They would be in need of the light of the gospel.

But they would not listen to him. So the Lord’s words will be senseless sounds to them:

“Saw lasaw saw lasaw.
Qaw laqaw qaw laqaw.
Ze’er sham ze’er sham.”


When the people try to walk, they will fall backwards. They will be defeated, trapped, and captured.Isaiah 28:13


I showed you Matthew 24 where God Himself declared these things would be happening by both false and good prophets. That however leads to YOU knowing who the difference is. But it has nothing to do with the fact that signs and wonders and speaking in tongues will be active.
 
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But Garee, don't you believe that "speaking in new tongues" is merely "speaking the gospel"? Which is it?

Yes, declaring the will of our Father it is all one in the same ! Its his prophecy he puts on our tongues. We can say the words as planting the spiritual seed of new born again spirit life. But he does the work of breathing into us strengthening us . Just as he did with Jesus. Jesus did not murmur like some. He knew it was the father working in him to both will and do the good pleasure of God.

My dear friends, you always obeyed what you were taught. Just as you obeyed when I was with you, it is even more important for you to obey now that I am not there. So you must continue to live in a way that gives meaning to your salvation. Do this with fear and respect for God. Yes, it is God who is working in you. He helps you want to do what pleases him, and he gives you the power to do it. Do everything without complaining or arguing Philipians 2:12-14
 
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No, a discerner of wolves in sheeps clothing!

Plenty of those around . Are you receiving visions, dreams or out of the body experiences? How can you see into the hearts of others?
 
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You need to learn about the originals and then compare what you see today with them.
oh?

were you there?

some of those originals had Paul correcting them all over the place

put a belt on your pants. they keep falling down
 
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To be really honest with you, I think you're largely exaggerating, or making things up.
I may not be here all the time, but I've been a member since 2014.'
In my experience, I've seen someone claim this on the forum (or even not claim this just mention spiritual gifts is enough), people would gather it would be pointed out that this is NOT a salvation requirement.
Such was NEVER let standing, it always gets massive opposition on this forum.
I personally don't oppose spiritual gifts themselves exist but oppose claims of salvation requirement (although I've rarely seen it claimed here).
So I don't know what threads are you talking about.
Maybe a few individual posts, which is by no means a general consensus on this forum.
Nobody is telling you leave, looks more like you want anyone who disagrees with you to leave from the forum, instead of facing correction.

he reads the word 'tongues' and goes into his act

done it many many times

there are not threads that say what he maintains

but there are a good many threads that he has posted in where he says the same things and then a bunch of people come along and assure him that is not so

rinse and repeat
 

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To be really honest with you, I think you're largely exaggerating, or making things up.
I may not be here all the time, but I've been a member since 2014.'
In my experience, I've seen someone claim this on the forum (or even not claim this just mention spiritual gifts is enough), people would gather it would be pointed out that this is NOT a salvation requirement.
Such was NEVER let standing, it always gets massive opposition on this forum.
I personally don't oppose spiritual gifts themselves exist but oppose claims of salvation requirement (although I've rarely seen it claimed here).
So I don't know what threads are you talking about.
Maybe a few individual posts, which is by no means a general consensus on this forum.
Nobody is telling you leave, looks more like you want anyone who disagrees with you to leave from the forum, instead of facing correction.
Can it be that you missunderstood my post? I did not said that somebody claimed this is an salvation requirement. Maby you should read my post again, ore maby I did not realy clear express what I meant.
 
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Pretty much everybody on the thread already agreed (multiple times) that nothing except faith in Christ is required for salvation and for being a real Christian and that this isn't Biblical teaching, so I don't know why do you keep pressing this matter on and on. You're always going to run into people who teach un-biblical things, that's unavoidable. What additional validation do you need from forum members to help you move on? This is getting old.

again

he's just gaming everyone

and enjoying it

he knows full well what the answer is since he has received mulitple times

he's just messing with people who do not know his mo
 
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Nope, that is a sect called Oneness or Holiness Pentecostal, an offshoot. Mainline Pentecostals do not believe or teach you have to talk in tongues to be saved.

he knows that Kayla

come on!
 
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1. Please note that John was already "in the Spirit" on the Lord's Day at the time that he heard the voice of Christ

that, IS the point!

do you know what 'in the Spirit' means?

hint: doesn't mean reading 5 Bible chapters a day
 

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Can it be that you missunderstood my post? I did not said that somebody claimed this is an salvation requirement. Maby you should read my post again, ore maby I did not realy clear express what I meant.
Philippians 3
13 Brothers, I do not consider that I have made it my own. But one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead, 14 I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. 15 Let those of us who are mature think this way, and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal that also to you.

That's my last post to you on this subject. Do as you will.
 
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But Garee, don't you believe that "speaking in new tongues" is merely "speaking the gospel"? Which is it?

he's found someone new to play ring around a rosy with ;):sneaky:

such a tell