The Doctrinal Belief of a Pre-Tribulation Resurrection. Is not spoken of in the Word of God. It was created by a sick and deranged woman
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“Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” John 3:3 (KJV 1900)
It is true, I was born again and mislead by my millennial teachers for many years. But upon studying Christ's teachings in the gospel, my confusion disappeared. He is clearly Amillennial as is the historic Church.
It is true, I was born again and mislead by my millennial teachers for many years. But upon studying Christ's teachings in the gospel, my confusion disappeared. He is clearly Amillennial as is the historic Church.
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My brother. If you do sure about pretrib why you not answer my question on # 787
Mat 24
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Please answer my question
1. Verse 37 say
A. As the day of Noah so shall the tribulation
Or
B. As the day of Noah so shall be the second coming.
Chose A or B.
2. Is Verse 39 say
A. And knew not till the flood come and took them all away so shall the great tribulation
Or
B. And knew not till the flood come and took all them away so shall the coming of the son.
Chose A OR B please
When God took them away ( verse 39)
Before tribulation or before second coming.
Di,plea question brother.
Mat 24
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Please answer my question
1. Verse 37 say
A. As the day of Noah so shall the tribulation
Or
B. As the day of Noah so shall be the second coming.
Chose A or B.
2. Is Verse 39 say
A. And knew not till the flood come and took them all away so shall the great tribulation
Or
B. And knew not till the flood come and took all them away so shall the coming of the son.
Chose A OR B please
When God took them away ( verse 39)
Before tribulation or before second coming.
Di,plea question brother.
The story of 10 plagues to agypt may parallel to rapture.
Plague is a wrath of God to agypt.
Did the Lord rapture or free Israel from agypt before 10 wrath?
No
Israel rapture or out of agypt after wrath of God.
During this time was agypt put more pressure to Israel?
Yes, read exodus.
So persecution from agypt and wrath of God happen in the same time.
But god able to protect Israel from wrath of God, not by rapture without rapture god able to protect His people.
Remember when the king throw daniel into fire. God able to protect daniel even in the fire
Plague is a wrath of God to agypt.
Did the Lord rapture or free Israel from agypt before 10 wrath?
No
Israel rapture or out of agypt after wrath of God.
During this time was agypt put more pressure to Israel?
Yes, read exodus.
So persecution from agypt and wrath of God happen in the same time.
But god able to protect Israel from wrath of God, not by rapture without rapture god able to protect His people.
Remember when the king throw daniel into fire. God able to protect daniel even in the fire
Exodus 5
1. And afterward Moses and Aaron went in, and told Pharaoh, Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, Let my people go, that they may hold a feast unto me in the wilderness.
The Lord is about to free Israel from agypt, verse 1.
The Wrath is coming. Is that mean stop persecution or tribulation?
No
Yes The wrath is for agypt not for Israel, but Israel not free from tribulation before the wrath.
Read verse 7. That after verse 1.
Agypt put greater tribulation.
7 Ye shall no more give the people straw to make brick, as heretofore: let them go and gather straw for themselves.
If you read more, yes the Lord finally free Israel from tribulation, but it happen after, not before wrath
1. And afterward Moses and Aaron went in, and told Pharaoh, Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, Let my people go, that they may hold a feast unto me in the wilderness.
The Lord is about to free Israel from agypt, verse 1.
The Wrath is coming. Is that mean stop persecution or tribulation?
No
Yes The wrath is for agypt not for Israel, but Israel not free from tribulation before the wrath.
Read verse 7. That after verse 1.
Agypt put greater tribulation.
7 Ye shall no more give the people straw to make brick, as heretofore: let them go and gather straw for themselves.
If you read more, yes the Lord finally free Israel from tribulation, but it happen after, not before wrath
Stop making these foolish accusations. Pharisees were those who did no believe the Word of God, hence did not believe in their Messiah. And you are a Pharisee on that basis, since the earthly Kingdom of God (which includes the Millennium) is clearly shown in Scripture. But you continue to attack it and deny it (just like any of the false teachers out there). I will not even post any Scriptures for someone who does not give a hoot about what is actually in the Bible.
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Except that the coming Tribulation period is primarily for UNBELIEVING Jews, not those who are saved and within the Church. And one third of those will end up believing.
And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. (Daniel 12:1)
And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God. (Zechariah 13:8,9)
And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. (Daniel 12:1)
And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God. (Zechariah 13:8,9)
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They people can be mean Christian, because abraham is father of faith or people of faith.
Let Bible interprate Bible
Mat 24
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Verse 37
The day of Noah > the coming of the Som not the coming of great tribulation
Verse 39
Flood > the coming of the Son, not the coming of great tribulation
Let Bible interprate Bible
Mat 24
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Verse 37
The day of Noah > the coming of the Som not the coming of great tribulation
Verse 39
Flood > the coming of the Son, not the coming of great tribulation
Amillennialism is actually misnamed. The ‘a’ at the beginning means ‘no’, indicating the proponents of this position believe there will be no millennial reign. But that is not accurate. A better title would be something like ‘realized millennialism’, indicating that we are currently in the millennium.
Amillennialism is not new. Many throughout the history of the church have held it. And by the time of Augustine, it had become the dominant view of the church. It is still the dominant view of the Eastern Orthodox Church, the Roman Catholic Church, and many Protestants. And it was the view of the reformers, including Calvin and Luther.
Amillennialism understands the Kingdom of God proclaimed by Jesus and his apostles to be synonymous with the millennial kingdom of Revelation 20:4-6. The kingdom of God is a present-day reality with Christ ruling from heaven. And it is a kingdom populated by all those who have given their lives to the lordship of Jesus.
Bottom line is the Amillennialst is dead wrong and Paul does not speak of it any where in the Bible. If he does lets see some scripture.
Amillennialism is not new. Many throughout the history of the church have held it. And by the time of Augustine, it had become the dominant view of the church. It is still the dominant view of the Eastern Orthodox Church, the Roman Catholic Church, and many Protestants. And it was the view of the reformers, including Calvin and Luther.
Amillennialism understands the Kingdom of God proclaimed by Jesus and his apostles to be synonymous with the millennial kingdom of Revelation 20:4-6. The kingdom of God is a present-day reality with Christ ruling from heaven. And it is a kingdom populated by all those who have given their lives to the lordship of Jesus.
Bottom line is the Amillennialst is dead wrong and Paul does not speak of it any where in the Bible. If he does lets see some scripture.
I would think if the words "thousands years" was used nine times in the Bible and every time it is shown as not literal that could mean something?
Its the problem some face when they refuse look into the signified understanding in parables like the one in view. Revelation 20.
The word "thousand" is used to represent a unknown throughout the bible.
Its the problem some face when they refuse look into the signified understanding in parables like the one in view. Revelation 20.
The word "thousand" is used to represent a unknown throughout the bible.
It depends on the verse. According to my research the term "Thousand Years" is actually talking about one thousand periods consisting of one years each in Rev 20:2, 3, 4, 6, 7, and 16. So those scriptures are actually talking about a real thousand year period time when it come to the reign of Christ here on earth.