Catholicism vs Protestantism
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What the Catholic Church teaches is not "someone's opinion". It is the truth handed down by the apostles.
Your Bearan example is false. The Bearans were commended for believing Paul's new teaching that was not in the OT, unlike the Thessalonians who rejected him and his teaching. No doubt Paul referenced some OT texts and they checked that. They could check that his teaching did not contradict the OT, just as Catholic doctrines do not contradict the OT or NT (if properly interpreted.)
Your Bearan example is false. The Bearans were commended for believing Paul's new teaching that was not in the OT, unlike the Thessalonians who rejected him and his teaching. No doubt Paul referenced some OT texts and they checked that. They could check that his teaching did not contradict the OT, just as Catholic doctrines do not contradict the OT or NT (if properly interpreted.)
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Rome has done a good job of convincing men that they are sinners and need to be redeemed. What needs to be shown from Gods word is that works cannot atone for sin. One starts by showing Eph 2:8-9 where it is revealed that salvation is by grace. One then explains that God loves every soul equally. Even the vilest of sinner is loved by God. God hates sin equally and even one sin is sufficient to condemn an unsaved soul. Jesus will receive all who come to Him and confess their sinfulness and ask Him to forgive their sin and save their soul.
Every soul is individually responsible to God. There is no corporate salvation. Jesus deals with each soul individually in the most personal terms. Popes, priests and the rest of the clergy cannot intercede for a lost soul. Believers can pray to God to open the eyes of the lost to their lost estate but cannot get saved vicariously for them.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Every soul is individually responsible to God. There is no corporate salvation. Jesus deals with each soul individually in the most personal terms. Popes, priests and the rest of the clergy cannot intercede for a lost soul. Believers can pray to God to open the eyes of the lost to their lost estate but cannot get saved vicariously for them.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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Um, no. The catechism did not exist until 1566, after the Council of Trent. It is NOT Scripture, therefore it IS someone's opinion. It's really that simple.
That's the most ridiculous thing I've read all day. I suggest you read Acts 17 again... from the Bible.
Yeah... as interpreted by Catholics who have sworn to uphold the Catholic interpretations. Circular reasoning much?
That's the most ridiculous thing I've read all day. I suggest you read Acts 17 again... from the Bible.
Yeah... as interpreted by Catholics who have sworn to uphold the Catholic interpretations. Circular reasoning much?
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I did not say they were wrong. I suppose much of what they teach has truth in it. Most is over thought, like the trinity. Thinking we must define everything we believe about an infinite God, with our finite minds, is where we start over thinking everything.
What I have against the Protestant movement, which includes the Lutherans and Presbyterians, is what they carried away from their Catholic brothers. When God called me back to Him, He did so with a Sabbath keeping evangelist that had me question all my Christian traditions.
What I have against the Protestant movement, which includes the Lutherans and Presbyterians, is what they carried away from their Catholic brothers. When God called me back to Him, He did so with a Sabbath keeping evangelist that had me question all my Christian traditions.
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I have been reading through this thread today ... so I have had the opportunity to read many ridiculous things 
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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That would seem to describe trusting in the wrong person (anti-christ faithless ) as a teaching authority .They have a different kind of back up or defense plan ..
A few verses after Catholicism claim( as golden key verse to them) in so much that Peter is the "it" in verses 17 and 18. . . that the gates of hell could never prevail against. It would seem God in His foreknowledge knew in advance. So then to reveal the true binding and loosening power of the gospel as it is written he gave Peter over as a example to us to walk by faith not of your own self (faithless) .
Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. Mathew 16:22-23
There the Father rebuked the father of lies "Satan" and Peter's blasphemy was forgiven
Blasphemy against the Son of man seen was forgivable. That window closed when Jesus left. Blasphemy against the glory of unseen holy place of faith is not forgivable.
A few verses after Catholicism claim( as golden key verse to them) in so much that Peter is the "it" in verses 17 and 18. . . that the gates of hell could never prevail against. It would seem God in His foreknowledge knew in advance. So then to reveal the true binding and loosening power of the gospel as it is written he gave Peter over as a example to us to walk by faith not of your own self (faithless) .
Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. Mathew 16:22-23
There the Father rebuked the father of lies "Satan" and Peter's blasphemy was forgiven
Blasphemy against the Son of man seen was forgivable. That window closed when Jesus left. Blasphemy against the glory of unseen holy place of faith is not forgivable.
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Well; irrespective of right or wrong; there's a couple of a practical
considerations.
1) To my knowledge, Jesus' mom isn't divine-- she is neither omniscient nor
omnipresent --ergo: she can't be everywhere at once nor can she listen to
everyone speaking all at the same time.
2) She's way up in Heaven and we're way down here on the Earth. How is
she supposed to hear anybody with all that distance separating them from
her?
Now we could, if we wanted, impose those same limitations on her son, but
seeing as how Christ is both human and divine, then nothing escapes his
notice.
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Well; irrespective of right or wrong; there's a couple of a practical
considerations.
1) To my knowledge, Jesus' mom isn't divine-- she is neither omniscient nor
omnipresent --ergo: she can't be everywhere at once nor can she listen to
everyone speaking all at the same time.
2) She's way up in Heaven and we're way down here on the Earth. How is
she supposed to hear anybody with all that distance separating them from
her?
Now we could, if we wanted, impose those same limitations on her son, but
seeing as how Christ is both human and divine, then nothing escapes his
notice.
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