Is man allowed by God to space travel?

[garee]

Yes but the masonic symbol shown here is also a keyhole symbolising a doorway to the father (popes meaning) And the cardinals are the hinges and axis points that bring messages up and down the ladder (Jacobs) to the popes (fathers) attention. Trying to copy the heavens on earth. I don't justify the vatican, only trying to identify all that it tries to encompass when its brought up from wisdom the Lord allowed to know.

It would seem wisdom that came from the fathers as a law of the fathers commandments of men

The keyhole symbolizing a doorway to the father (popes meaning) Making Peter the key as the it in which the gates of hell could never prevail against . . . backfired five minutes later when Peter was used as one of the many antichrists at that time period . The Lord not seen rebuked the spirit of the antichrist(singular) Satan . Therefore as the spirit that works in the heart of human moving them to his will as with Peter. Peter was forgiven of his blasphemy against the Son of man, Jesus.

They had made the word it as in as it is written with the word it representing the unseen faith making it Christ's faith without effect by giving it over to Peter.

And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ. From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men Mathew 16:16-23

 

[garee]

misunderstanding can be the greatest difference between people.
I am not talkingabout going on our planet throught the heavens. Read what I wrote again. Its about doing with technology not with the planet. With artificial life and light not Spiritually seeking the path. With corruptible flesh instead of the way like we were told to do.
Most of Mankind has been following a false light Star Trickin' mentality for some time now.

I would think a person would need life in order to create life. No such things as artificial spirit life .God's is Spirit as eternal. We do not know him after the temporal rudiments of this world.

Seeking a path using the corruptible temporal seen to give the unseen spiritual vision. would seem to be the prescription the doctor ordered.

2 Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

 

[tourist]

Is man allowed by God to space travel? I think most Christians would be surprised by what the Bible says about going into the Heavens.

What do you think?

The verses you supplied refer to pride and have not addressed space travel.

 

[tourist]

They won't let me correct the last line so here is the correct way I meant:
Many other scriptures point to the fact we can't go there with flesh that is corruptible.
What do you think?

Please supply some scripture that supports this claim.

 

[tourist]

Do you want what I know from scripture, rather than what I think? If so, I will tell you.

Mankind, as corrupted and fallen, cannot go there now (meaning yet, until something transforms us). Adam used to be the representative before, and could represent this world among the other worlds. In sin, satan took that place, and seen as the "god of this world" in Job 1 & 2; 1 Kings 22:22-23; 2 Chronicles 18:21-22, etc. Now, Jesus has taken that place, and is now glorified, and thus able to ascend to "there" (3rd Heaven). We would perish in the presence of God, and perish in the radiation of 'space' (especially the Van Allen belts, and especially after Starfish Prime, etc, etc).

It (3rd Heaven) is not in "another dimension" as some have incorrectly thought/stated [even without evidence or a single scripture], but Jesus Christ, from this very earth, ascended back, in a glorified body, to where He had been sent from. The third Heaven is a real physical place, and if we had such ability, we could travel to it, but God will never allow sin to leave this planet [it is the quarantine zone, the sickbed of the universal Hospital [angels, as nurses, Christ Jesus the Great Physician, a leper colony on an island in space, struck off [temporarily] from the continent of heaven, etc], and even now [since the Cross] satan is trapped here (cast down, to the earth), unable to leave [1 Timothy 6:7; Revelation 12:8-13; Romans 5:6 [combined with Revelation 12:10]; 2 Corinthians 4:4 [this world only and no other worldly body in the heavens] KJB]. Do not let N.A.S.A lie to you. Mankind [as in men themselves] never set foot upon the moon [and there is no rover on mars], the Bible says so. Though satan would love for mankind to be able to leave, and is working as hard as he can so that it could happen, so that he would conduct his warfare again in Heaven, by spreading fallen mankind and sin all over the sinless universe, and the unfallen worlds, he is limited. He presents a false front, he is attempting a counterfeit ladder to Heaven [a siege-tower of Babel, climbing up some other way, than the Way] through the so-called space program.

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Amo_9:2 Though they dig into hell, thence shall mine hand take them; though they climb up to heaven, thence will I bring them down:​

In short:

No. See 1 Timothy 6:7, which seems to draw upon Job 1:21 & Ecclesiastes 5:15.

Most of what you ‘see’ and ‘hear’ related to ‘space exploration’ is propagandistic, self-serving, and ultimately fraud (though certain truths are utilized), especially that ‘Apollo’ and ‘mars’ business. Humans and satan (see 2 Corinthians 4:4; Revelation 12:8-13) are confined to this local earth, though having access to high altitudes. Though satan would love to spread sin all over the unfallen universe.

N.A.S.A. - Not Always Scientifically Accurate​

N.A.S.A. - Never A Straight Answer​

N.A.S.A. - Numerous Anomalies Scams Abound​

N.A.S.A. - National Academy of Space Actors​

N.A.S.A. - Not Anything, Simply Aether,​

N.A.S.A. - Neither Aerospace, Sadly, Astro-NOTS!​

N.A.S.A. - Never Accept the Serpents Assertions.​

The ‘space program’ is actually another system based upon the ‘tower of babel’ reasoning/thought, being another way up into Heaven other than The Way (John 14:6), another ladder other than the Jacob’s Ladder - Jesus Christ. The only way into Heaven now is by vision, or by John 14:1-3.

Some names I may recommend to you (most of which is freely available online to read or watch, consider scientifically). Bill Kaysing. James Collier (Was it only a paper moon); Bart Sibrel (Astronauts Gone Wild); Ralph Rene (Nasa Mooned America), Marcus Allen, and David Percy (What happened on the Moon, Analysis; Hall of Mirrors), Mary Bennett, Jim (James) Fetzer and/or Jarrah White (Moon Faker, Mars Faker (youtube); atheist), Richard Hall, and in this present list, last but not least, N.A.S.A. itself, and its own material, still available and that which has since been removed, deleted, redacted, etc.

Please be aware that this is in no way connected to the false theology of 'flat earth' (which is non-sequitur to the present discussion, and of which I do not believe (earth is basically sphere from all evidences, Bible, history, science, and the testimony of Jesus)).

In case you weren't aware NASA is not the only space agency. The preponderance of evidence of space travel refutes the claim that humans are confined to earth.

 

[Mychael]

Please supply some scripture that supports this claim.

My very first post I stated from the Bible what what God told man what He had given man and what he had dominion over....doesn't mention our dominion over space, other worlds and suns. Did you read it or just not understand it?

Genesis 1:26-30
1:26 ¶And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29 ¶And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

Here's one more I am adding to this understanding now for you:
Psalm 115:16 16The highest heavens belong to the LORD, but the earth he has given to mankind.
I hope this clears this up for you.

 

[Mychael]

In case you weren't aware NASA is not the only space agency. The preponderance of evidence of space travel refutes the claim that humans are confined to earth.

Man has freewill and he can do what he wants but with a set of scales of judgment at the end.....because he has chosen this path and many other transgressions, the world he had, faces destruction now. And it can come very quick to a sleeping Church.

 

[Mychael]

I would think a person would need life in order to create life. No such things as artificial spirit life .God's is Spirit as eternal. We do not know him after the temporal rudiments of this world.

Seeking a path using the corruptible temporal seen to give the unseen spiritual vision. would seem to be the prescription the doctor ordered.

2 Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

If you believe that "No such things as artificial spirit life" then read about the beast and the image that was given power to speak and move in the Bible and explain to all Christians reading this thread how that it could never be your TV, PC monitors and cell phone as it morph into its final state. Please lay your evidence out that those are not artificial light and life. Next set out the evidence where in the Bible it states we belong in space or other planets, please for everyone reading this.

 

[JamOn]

"Mychael, post: Here's one more I am adding to this understanding now for you:

Psalm 115:16 16The highest heavens belong to the LORD, but the earth he has given to mankind.
I hope this clears this up for you.

to know what that heavens is, is to know.

Psalm 148:4
Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens.

 

[tourist]

Man has freewill and he can do what he wants but with a set of scales of judgment at the end.....because he has chosen this path and many other transgressions, the world he had, faces destruction now. And it can come very quick to a sleeping Church.

There is no scripture that forbids space travel or any other mode of transportation.

 

[tourist]

My very first post I stated from the Bible what what God told man what He had given man and what he had dominion over....doesn't mention our dominion over space, other worlds and suns. Did you read it or just not understand it?

Genesis 1:26-30
1:26 ¶And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29 ¶And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

Here's one more I am adding to this understanding now for you:
Psalm 115:16 16The highest heavens belong to the LORD, but the earth he has given to mankind.
I hope this clears this up for you.

Clear as mud.

 

[Mychael]

Clear as mud.

Are you mocking God or just me?

 

[tourist]

Are you mocking God or just me?

You asked me if you cleared things up for me and the answer is that you did not.

 

[oldethennew]

Well, we're already doing it so He's allowing it.

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breno, we are NOT going to 'other' worlds or planets to accomplish ANYTHING of any CONSEQUENCE connected
to 'Spiritual-knowledge' - we'll just say this, even IF in the world's wildest dreams, they might
think that they could reach HIM at any level, = they are of 'Sodom & Gomorrah climbing the tower of babel...

we know it's a stretch, but this is what Yeshua requires of us, while He is setting His people apart...

 

[Mychael]

You asked me if you cleared things up for me and the answer is that you did not.

okay, have you studied the Bible in depth?

 

[tourist]

okay, have you studied the Bible in depth?

Yes, been reading and studying the bible for over 40 years. That in itself does not make me an expert on scripture, but on the other hand I'm certainly not a novice.

 

[Mychael]

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breno, we are NOT going to 'other' worlds or planets to accomplish ANYTHING of any CONSEQUENCE connected
to 'Spiritual-knowledge' - we'll just say this, even IF in the world's wildest dreams, they might
think that they could reach HIM at any level, = they are of 'Sodom & Gomorrah climbing the tower of babel...

we know it's a stretch, but this is what Yeshua requires of us, while He is setting His people apart...

Thank you God Bless You and strengthen Your Light for Others, as well as anyone else who stands for the most important Trues. Little truths can tear us apart. We all need to stick together and not let any of us follow the wrong path. Share the Light God gave you for other that are stumbling.

 

[oldethennew]

there is NO WHERE is Scripture that mentions US partaking of 'space-travel' on the human level'...

and NO, hub and i do not believe any 'media-propaganda'...

 

[JamOn]

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breno, we are NOT going to 'other' worlds or planets to accomplish ANYTHING of any CONSEQUENCE connected
to 'Spiritual-knowledge' - we'll just say this, even IF in the world's wildest dreams, they might
think that they could reach HIM at any level, = they are of 'Sodom & Gomorrah climbing the tower of babel...

we know it's a stretch, but this is what Yeshua requires of us, while He is setting His people apart...

That story is quite interesting, biulding a tower to reach beyond earth atmosphere doesn’t seem plausible for one the oxygen drops the higher the attitude no space suits or tanks to breath from once that high.
I’ve read that it’s possible they built a high tower to avoid a second flood they didn’t believe God said He wouldn’t do it that why again nonetheless they feared a second flood thus confusion. to reach the sky is figurative as in very high

 

[Mychael]

Yes, been reading and studying the bible for over 40 years. That in itself does not make me an expert on scripture, but on the other hand I'm certainly not a novice.

Do you not sense anything wrong here with what all this is causing? The different things right now that are going on earth?