Is man allowed by God to space travel?

[Dino246]

I get tired after a few hours of defending the posts I have written.
If you knew something that was coming that not many are saying, would you say it or keep quiet?
This verse sums up my conscience:
Ezekiel 33:6 But if the watchman sees the sword come, and doesn't blow the trumpet, and the people aren't warned, and the sword comes, and take any person from among them; he is taken away in his iniquity, but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.

I never said I personally was a Prophet, I said I was a Messenger.

My background is self defense I taught it all my adult life. If I did what I said I have done then at 58 I should of acquired a skill by now better than let say a person who hasn't. I am not as gifted on the internet as in the physical world I though I would take the time to try. I am not going to argue these points anymore for If you haven't got the Spirit of what was discussed in these posts by now, I would have to say sometimes understanding doesn't come when told but when God reveals it as time unfurls. Or perhaps this Message, isn't for you. I don't have all answers.....but I was given a part if I wanted and this is the part I accepted. Regardless some people answered with light and wisdom. I thank you all and I wish you all best in the path you have chosen and will fight to defend. Just think and pray about that what was said here.
God Bless You

Mychael...
Since you claim that you have a background in self-defense, allow me to explain what you have done here in those terms...

You have walked into someone else's dojo, and without knowing a thing about the people who study and practice there, nor observing them, nor studying the art/style they practice, you have walked to the front and challenged all comers to a sparring match. You've gotten your tail soundly and repeatedly whooped, and now you're walking out with said tail between your legs and claiming that you're just tired of defending yourself.

Either learn from the experience, or keep walking.

 

[JamOn]

I get tired after a few hours of defending the posts I have written.
If you knew something that was coming that not many are saying, would you say it or keep quiet?
This verse sums up my conscience:
Ezekiel 33:6 But if the watchman sees the sword come, and doesn't blow the trumpet, and the people aren't warned, and the sword comes, and take any person from among them; he is taken away in his iniquity, but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.

I never said I personally was a Prophet, I said I was a Messenger.

My background is self defense I taught it all my adult life. If I did what I said I have done then at 58 I should of acquired a skill by now better than let say a person who hasn't. I am not as gifted on the internet as in the physical world I though I would take the time to try. I am not going to argue these points anymore for If you haven't got the Spirit of what was discussed in these posts by now, I would have to say sometimes understanding doesn't come when told but when God reveals it as time unfurls. Or perhaps this Message, isn't for you. I don't have all answers.....but I was given a part if I wanted and this is the part I accepted. Regardless some people answered with light and wisdom. I thank you all and I wish you all best in the path you have chosen and will fight to defend. Just think and pray about that what was said here.
God Bless You

What I’m saying is test all things debate with God that is what He wants.

1 Thessalonians 5:21
but test all things. Hold fast to the good.

From a place i thought was helpful in decerning the word.

https://www.bible-knowledge.com/how-to-discern-if-a-word-is-from-the-lord/

below some tips on discerning the word from the site

Remember, if you are receiving any type of supernatural words or messages, it is either coming from one of three sources:

• From the Lord Himself
• From your own mind and imagination, as the OT has told us how some prophets would prophesy out of their imagination
• Or it could be coming from a demonic spirit who is trying to knock you off course

• Does the Word Line Up With Scripture?
• Does the Word Line Up With the Character of God?
• Does the Word Line Up With What God is Doing With Your Life?
• Does Your Spirit Bear Witness With the Word?
• There is Safety in the Multitude of Counselors
• Ask God to Confirm the Word For You
• Will the Word Glorify God?
• Will the Word Produce Liberty or Bondage?

 

[Kojikun]

Space travel is Evil now too? 🙄 seriously we can't breathe without doing something "evil" perhaps we should spend less time condemning gray areas and more time loving others. Just a thought 🤷‍♂️

 

[Lanolin]

actually I learned that it was a dog that was the first being in space.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smit...e-dog-and-her-one-way-trip-orbit-1-180968728/

Not a guinea pig. The dog was called Laika and was sent by the russians.
Apparently she wasnt treated very well, and doesnt have half the fame that the americans did with their moon landing flag flying gig. But I always thought she made a better story.

 

[Mychael]

What I’m saying is test all things debate with God that is what He wants.

1 Thessalonians 5:21
but test all things. Hold fast to the good.

From a place i thought was helpful in decerning the word.

https://www.bible-knowledge.com/how-to-discern-if-a-word-is-from-the-lord/

below some tips on discerning the word from the site

Remember, if you are receiving any type of supernatural words or messages, it is either coming from one of three sources:

• From the Lord Himself
• From your own mind and imagination, as the OT has told us how some prophets would prophesy out of their imagination
• Or it could be coming from a demonic spirit who is trying to knock you off course

• Does the Word Line Up With Scripture?
• Does the Word Line Up With the Character of God?
• Does the Word Line Up With What God is Doing With Your Life?
• Does Your Spirit Bear Witness With the Word?
• There is Safety in the Multitude of Counselors
• Ask God to Confirm the Word For You
• Will the Word Glorify God?
• Will the Word Produce Liberty or Bondage?

Time is necessary for understanding especially in this busy age. In a short amount of time perhaps you'll understand the Message I tried to give out of warning :
Come out of Babylon My People lest you take part in her plagues. Not becoming so attached to your worlds system and its inventions or artificial light and life that your real life depends on it. If you can't set it down and walk away, you will find you hadn't developed the things you'll need within yourself or there won't be what you need because everyone will be needy and then you get the I, ME, MINE, mentality of our younger generation's well taught I'm entitled to this, I need it, I deserve it, mentality over the needs of others.
Most people have never allowed themselves to be pushed to their extremes and therefore will not know how they will react when stress is brought to a boil. People will shortly start to flee the cities in numbers.
Disease famine confusion and conflict will rule. Anxiety and Fear will bring a multitude of wrong decisions in most.
Who is willing to listen even if it will cost you your life's but will save your Soul?
This is the time when most that call themselves Spiritual will see their concepts of the box they placed their God's limitations of and what He is and what limits He can or can't do. He won't be the way most are expecting Him to be. He won't see us (me too) the way we see ourselves. The repentance til perhaps even death, is sometime not taught or discussed by many or even understood for the end of this age.
It is better to have a friend who frowns than to have an enemy that smiles.

 

[garee]

Is man allowed by God to space travel? I think most Christians would be surprised by what the Bible says about going into the Heavens.
Genesis 1:26-30
1:26 ¶And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29 ¶And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
Isaiah 14:12-15 How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! You said in your heart, “I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.” But you are brought down to the grave, to the depths of the pit. NIV
Obadiah 1:3-4
3 The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?
4 Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.

Many other scriptures point to the fact we can go there with flesh that is corruptible.
What do you think?

We are traveling in the space of this universe . What space are you referring to. Closer to the Sun?

 

[Locoponydirtman]

I guess the answer to the OP question is best answered by another question.
I the space out side of earth's atmosphere outside of God's possession and authority, or is it part of His own creation?

 

[JamOn]

Time is necessary for understanding especially in this busy age. In a short amount of time perhaps you'll understand the Message I tried to give out of warning :
Come out of Babylon My People lest you take part in her plagues. Not becoming so attached to your worlds system and its inventions or artificial light and life that your real life depends on it. If you can't set it down and walk away, you will find you hadn't developed the things you'll need within yourself or there won't be what you need because everyone will be needy and then you get the I, ME, MINE, mentality of our younger generation's well taught I'm entitled to this, I need it, I deserve it, mentality over the needs of others.
Most people have never allowed themselves to be pushed to their extremes and therefore will not know how they will react when stress is brought to a boil. People will shortly start to flee the cities in numbers.
Disease famine confusion and conflict will rule. Anxiety and Fear will bring a multitude of wrong decisions in most.
Who is willing to listen even if it will cost you your life's but will save your Soul?
This is the time when most that call themselves Spiritual will see their concepts of the box they placed their God's limitations of and what He is and what limits He can or can't do. He won't be the way most are expecting Him to be. He won't see us (me too) the way we see ourselves. The repentance til perhaps even death, is sometime not taught or discussed by many or even understood for the end of this age.
It is better to have a friend who frowns than to have an enemy that smiles.

Come out of the cities reminds me of this verse.

Ezekiel 39:9
Then those who dwell in the cities of Israel will go out, kindle fires, and burn the weapons--the bucklers and shields, the bows and arrows, the clubs and spears. For seven years they will use them for fuel.

 

[JamOn]

Time is necessary for understanding especially in this busy age. In a short amount of time perhaps you'll understand the Message I tried to give out of warning :
Come out of Babylon My People lest you take part in her plagues. Not becoming so attached to your worlds system and its inventions or artificial light and life that your real life depends on it. If you can't set it down and walk away, you will find you hadn't developed the things you'll need within yourself or there won't be what you need because everyone will be needy and then you get the I, ME, MINE, mentality of our younger generation's well taught I'm entitled to this, I need it, I deserve it, mentality over the needs of others.
Most people have never allowed themselves to be pushed to their extremes and therefore will not know how they will react when stress is brought to a boil. People will shortly start to flee the cities in numbers.
Disease famine confusion and conflict will rule. Anxiety and Fear will bring a multitude of wrong decisions in most.
Who is willing to listen even if it will cost you your life's but will save your Soul?
This is the time when most that call themselves Spiritual will see their concepts of the box they placed their God's limitations of and what He is and what limits He can or can't do. He won't be the way most are expecting Him to be. He won't see us (me too) the way we see ourselves. The repentance til perhaps even death, is sometime not taught or discussed by many or even understood for the end of this age.
It is better to have a friend who frowns than to have an enemy that smiles.

I see I found it revelation 18, it seems Babylon is a symbolic language to distance themselves from false religions just like the Israelites were commanded to leave Babylon and restore true worship at Jerusalem
When this was written, literal Babylon had lost its power two hundred years earlier, as predicted by Isaiah and Jeremiah. Thus, in Revelation, Babylon obviously refers to something other than the literal city.
To understand the imagery, we must examine Old Testament passages about Babylon and compare them with the warning in Revelation.

In revalation 18 speaks all nations
3All the nations have drunk the wine of the passion of her immorality.

 

[garee]

I am not here to force the views I stated, on anyone, only to offer.
If you see me as not having love in my heart then you misunderstand me. Today I havn't stopped answering the posts on this subject now for many hours....doesn't look like any sin of it slowing down either. I have to devote some time to the physical world now but will be back later.
Everybody you fight is not always your enemy and everybody who helps you is not always your friend.
What you despise in another be sure to correct in yourself.
God Bless you all

The whole creation was corrupted . . The sun is a corrupted source of temporal light. It is on the down count ending on the last day

 

[JamOn]

Huh I didn’t know catholics had wars ships interesting



While St. Peter's boat was clearly used for fishing and helping Jesus preach to the crowds on shore, the papal navy was decidedly used for defense, conquest and commerce.

Historians believe the pontifical navy was established in the 10th century by Pope John VIII.

Popes Nicholas V and Sixtus IV sent military ships against the Turks during the Ottoman wars, and the "St. Bonaventure" was commissioned by Pope Sixtus V to fight seafaring pirates in the 16th-century.

The armed frigates, corvettes, steamer ships and schooners were blessed with the names of the saints, the most popular being "St. Peter" and "St. Paul." At least one was named for a female saint, St. Firmina, and one gunboat was called the "Immaculate Conception."

https://www.catholicnews.com/servic...once-navigated-more-than-spiritual-waters.cfm

 

[JamOn]

Gees now that is a sprawling city

 

[JamOn]

Off topic sorry but marystar what tha this site talks about containers ship and oil tankers and this is needed for fishing. All this below is on a catholic site. I don’t get it

https://marystar.org/maritime-ministryapostleship-of-the-sea

The Merchant Fleet
Over 90% of world trade travels by sea. The international merchant fleet employs some 1,250,000 seafarers at sea. A further 250,000 are estimated to be on shore, in training, on leave or looking for work. It is believed that more than 60% of seafarers come from a Catholic Christian background. Modern ships have between 16-25 crew, often with four or more nationalities on board. English would be the common language, yet for most this would be their second or third language.


Cargo ships
Despite developments in road and air transport, it is still easier to transport heavy or large cargoes by coastal or long distance ships. Demand for cargo ships is increasing with the expansion of world trade. Minerals such as coal, iron, bauxite, copper and chrome are loaded into ships by conveyor belts. Dry cargoes such as cereals, sugar, fertilizers, and fodder for livestock are stored silos in ports before being transferred to the holds of ships.


Containers
Container ships carry their cargo in metal boxes, 20 and 40 foot in length. Some ship may carrier as many as 6,000 Twenty Foot Equivalent (TEU) containers. New ships coming on line carrier in excess of 10,000 TEU's. These boxes can be loaded and unloaded very rapidly by portside cranes with as many as twelve cranes working on a ship moving a container every 2 minutes. Container ships can be in and out of port in a matter for hours. This is highly advantageous for shipping companies anxious to minimize what they pay in port dues. For the hardworking seafarer it means even less possibility of spending time ashore. This type of shipping has grown steadily in the last 30 years.


Tankers
Oil tankers may carry hundreds of tons of crude oil. Pipelines carry oil to coastal terminals where it is loaded into the tankers and transported to depots or refineries in consumer countries. This is a highly specialized and dangerous occupation.

 

[JamOn]

 

[garee]

I see I found it revelation 18, it seems Babylon is a symbolic language to distance themselves from false religions just like the Israelites were commanded to leave Babylon and restore true worship at Jerusalem
When this was written, literal Babylon had lost its power two hundred years earlier, as predicted by Isaiah and Jeremiah. Thus, in Revelation, Babylon obviously refers to something other than the literal city.
To understand the imagery, we must examine Old Testament passages about Babylon and compare them with the warning in Revelation.

In revalation 18 speaks all nations
3All the nations have drunk the wine of the passion of her immorality.

Yes as soon as they are born they go forth telling lies. The strange woman natural mankind . They know not the God of truth . Marvel not or wonder not a person must be born again

 

[JamOn]

Yes as soon as they are born they go forth telling lies. The strange woman natural mankind . They know not the God of truth . Marvel not or wonder not a person must be born again

Wind blows where it wishes

 

[Mychael]

Gees now that is a sprawling city
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Yes but the masonic symbol shown here is also a keyhole symbolising a doorway to the father (popes meaning) And the cardinals are the hinges and axis points that bring messages up and down the ladder (Jacobs) to the popes (fathers) attention. Trying to copy the heavens on earth. I don't justify the vatican, only trying to identify all that it tries to encompass when its brought up from wisdom the Lord allowed to know.

 

[Mychael]

misunderstanding can be the greatest difference between people.
I am not talkingabout going on our planet throught the heavens. Read what I wrote again. Its about doing with technology not with the planet. With artificial life and light not Spiritually seeking the path. With corruptible flesh instead of the way like we were told to do.
Most of Mankind has been following a false light Star Trickin' mentality for some time now.

 

[JamOn]

misunderstanding can be the greatest difference between people.
I am not talkingabout going on our planet throught the heavens. Read what I wrote again. Its about doing with technology not with the planet. With artificial life and light not Spiritually seeking the path. With corruptible flesh instead of the way like we were told to do.
Most of Mankind has been following a false light Star Trickin' mentality for some time now.

the artificial you speak of uses electrons that God created these atoms are not man made like the wood to build boats the boat is ship building technologies, Jesus used boats to travel, God built the first super boat there is a science to building a proper floating boat the keel being the up most importance. man has harnessed what God has created in that sense it is not artificial in regards to atoms. As a matter of fact what you see is made from atoms God created. metal is iron element glass in sand,,, plastic is from natural elements cellulose, coal, natural gas, salt and crude oil

 

[posthuman]

Trying to copy the heavens on earth.

Hebrews 8:5 and 9:23 explain that the tabernacle, the ark, the temple and its altar were all themselves copies of the heavens on earth. And God ordained these. So it is not necessarily evil to mimic the things of heaven on earth, as you implied it is.