Health, Wealth & Prosperity

[UnitedWithChrist]

1. It is written, "Death and life is in the power of the tongue".

2. Why not, who says, and by what authority do you speak.
I commanded my healing to come for about an hour and one half straight, and it did just that.
So speak for yourself, using my tongue to make what I want or desire works for me.

3. Jesus Himself said, "ye are gods", quoting from the old testament.

4. Where is it written in the bible saying it's blasphemy? Such ridiculous accusations and condemnations.
No one is saying we are going to become God.
You are simply perverting what is being said out of your hate for those of faith.

5. I have yet to have one person prove me wrong, and since you don't use scripture to backup anything you say, I know you cannot prove me wrong either.

6. Jesus and Paul commended up to be FOLLOWERS of them, and they are EXAMPLES TO FOLLOW. So what God does, we are to do the same, even as Jesus did.

7. So, God's people perish for a lack of knowledge. There was obviously something he didn't know.

1. Words can have a consequence. For instance, words can either discourage or encourage a child leading to disastrous results or
great results. This does not mean you can cause things to magically appear by your words.

2. Internet claims are cheap. I know two others who claim to have resurrected dead people. One told me he lied about it later.
The other is someone who is immoral and engages in drunkenness and sexual immorality. Obviously she is not someone God
would use to resurrect the dead.

3. I covered this one already. He was basically saying that as the Word of God, he was higher than any human judge, who spoke
for God, yet Scripture calls them elohim (judge) in Psalms. He was making a play on words.

4. Word of Faith teachers like Kenneth Copeland and Fred Price claim that they are "little gods". Copeland even claims to control the
weather.

5. What specific beliefs haven't been proven wrong?

6. In what sense? Of course we are to imitate the apostles' behavior, but we are not able to manifest the power of the Holy Spirit
same as Christ and the Apostles. I've never seen anyone who has resurrected a body.

7. I'm not sure how this quote applies to your words. maybe you can elaborate.

 

[know1]

LOL

Are you for real?

Declaring others unsaved because they don’t believe Word of Faith/Pentecostal/charismatic nonsense?

Well if I valued the assessment of such individuals I might be upset. Thanks for the laugh

Yeah, I am for real, and so is what I said.
I understand your doubt, seeing your complete ignorance of what faith is and how it works.
You have absolutely no clue of what faith is, do you?
I'll explain in another post of yours I saw error in.

 

[know1]

This is related to Word of Faith false teaching. WOFers believe they are little gods who can create reality with their words. This teaching originated with EW Kenyon and his positive confession movement. The real strength is from the LORD.

All too true.
Our strength IS IN JESUS.
Why do you think our words have power?

 

[UnitedWithChrist]

All too true.
Our strength IS IN JESUS.
Why do you think our words have power?

They don't have the power that WoFers think they do.

If you want to try it out on me then, ask God to heal the specific ailment I'm thinking about now.

But we can test this......I lost some teeth due to a medical condition. Surely your WoF god can make my teeth grow back. Command him to do it. See how far that gets you

 

[UnitedWithChrist]

All too true.
Our strength IS IN JESUS.
Why do you think our words have power?

The words do have power to encourage or discourage, to teach or deceive, etcetera. And if the believer speaks the word of God, they have power, when coupled with the Holy Spirit and God's election, to bring someone to faith.

 

[know1]

I provided scripture where Jesus said even what u have, which is healing, will be taken away from you

I used a similar promise in God's word to get my healing.
You are seeing it in a negative way.
Read the below verse.

Luk 8:17 For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.
Luk 8:18 Take heed therefore how ye hear: for whosoever hath, to him shall be given; and whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he seemeth to have.

Have you ever wondered how something spiritual is brought into the physical or is made into flesh? Like sicknesses and diseases?
Understand this about the verses above.
It IS what faith is.
It is the very definition of what faith is.
Faith is a noun. A person, place, thing, or event.
And where does faith come from?
The heart, right?
And where are the things you hope for?
Also the heart.
What is hope?
It is an inward vision or imagination of and from the heart.
For it to move from a hope, which is future tense, to faith, present tense, one MUST believe one of God's promises that, that being, it [the thing hoped for] is given.
The part that says, "whosoever hath or has", is speaking about believing the thing hoped for, HAS BEEN GIVEN, after you asked for it.
If you don't believe you have the thing hoped for, then it has no substance, and it will remain, just a hope of your.
Look what Mk says.

Mar 11:24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.

When do you need to believe you have received the thing you asked for?
I'm going to switch things around a bit to clarify or make it easier to see.

Mar 11:24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, believe that ye receive, when ye pray, and ye shall have them.

I took out the word "them" also, as it is not in the text but is inferred.
Jesus is telling us, we are to believe it is given to us, WHEN WE PRAY, NOT AFTER WE GET THE THING. If that were possible.
And then, "ye shall have", future tense.
So what is faith?
It is having the very thing you imagine in your heart. It is the very thing you see or envision in your heart.
Now for the last part of the verse in lk 8:18.
"..., and whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he seemeth to have. "

That is the verse I used to get my healing.
I rejected, what felt like, flu symptoms after 2 and 1/2 days, and it was getting progressively worse.
After rejecting the symptoms, I commanded the thing to go, for about an hour and 1/2.
When I stopped praying, it started easing immediately, and after about a half hour, all the symptoms were gone.
My point is, don't just see that verse as God taking away something good, but use it to take away bad things.
I can tell you more stories of me using that promise to take away bad things.

 

[UnitedWithChrist]

I used a similar promise in God's word to get my healing.
You are seeing it in a negative way.
Read the below verse.

Luk 8:17 For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.
Luk 8:18 Take heed therefore how ye hear: for whosoever hath, to him shall be given; and whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he seemeth to have.

Have you ever wondered how something spiritual is brought into the physical or is made into flesh? Like sicknesses and diseases?
Understand this about the verses above.
It IS what faith is.
It is the very definition of what faith is.
Faith is a noun. A person, place, thing, or event.
And where does faith come from?
The heart, right?
And where are the things you hope for?
Also the heart.
What is hope?
It is an inward vision or imagination of and from the heart.
For it to move from a hope, which is future tense, to faith, present tense, one MUST believe one of God's promises that, that being, it [the thing hoped for] is given.
The part that says, "whosoever hath or has", is speaking about believing the thing hoped for, HAS BEEN GIVEN, after you asked for it.
If you don't believe you have the thing hoped for, then it has no substance, and it will remain, just a hope of your.
Look what Mk says.

Mar 11:24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.

When do you need to believe you have received the thing you asked for?
I'm going to switch things around a bit to clarify or make it easier to see.

Mar 11:24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, believe that ye receive, when ye pray, and ye shall have them.

I took out the word "them" also, as it is not in the text but is inferred.
Jesus is telling us, we are to believe it is given to us, WHEN WE PRAY, NOT AFTER WE GET THE THING. If that were possible.
And then, "ye shall have", future tense.
So what is faith?
It is having the very thing you imagine in your heart. It is the very thing you see or envision in your heart.
Now for the last part of the verse in lk 8:18.
"..., and whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he seemeth to have. "

That is the verse I used to get my healing.
I rejected, what felt like, flu symptoms after 2 and 1/2 days, and it was getting progressively worse.
After rejecting the symptoms, I commanded the thing to go, for about an hour and 1/2.
When I stopped praying, it started easing immediately, and after about a half hour, all the symptoms were gone.
My point is, don't just see that verse as God taking away something good, but use it to take away bad things.
I can tell you more stories of me using that promise to take away bad things.

Let's see you use it to avoid any aging and death.

Won't happen dude.

 

[oldethennew]

My wife believes that Health is Wealth. A person would give all of their wealth in order to have good health. The question centers more on prosperity and how do we define Bible Prosperity. Even the NIV wants to use this word in Jeremiah 29:16 "For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future."

We are told in Psalm 139:16 that God writes the book of our life before we are even born. Every chapter and every verse. So that God's desire for us is written in a book that the Angels can read to help us to become the person God wants and intends for us to be. Does God want us to prosper and to be in good health? How can we understand Moses when he tells us that God's desire is for us to prosper? Again this is the NIV word because the KJV says: "See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;" Perhaps like Eve in the Garden we choose between good and evil in life.

"But the word is very near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart, so that you may obey it. See, I have set before you today life and prosperity, as well as death and disaster. For I am commanding you today to love the LORD your God, to walk in His ways, and to keep His commandments, statutes, and ordinances, so that you may live and increase, and the LORD your God may bless you in the land that you are entering to possess" (Deuteronomy 30:14,15,16)

https://biblehub.com/text/deuteronomy/30-15.htm

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God does will for us to prosper and to be in good health - and after this?
are we acting as 'good-stewards' according to His Will???
'for a man is not judged according to what he does NOT possess or have, but,
according to what he DOES have'.
our 'stewardship is evidence of our walk/heart...

 

[know1]

They don't have the power that WoFers think they do.

If you want to try it out on me then, ask God to heal the specific ailment I'm thinking about now.

But we can test this......I lost some teeth due to a medical condition. Surely your WoF god can make my teeth grow back. Command him to do it. See how far that gets you

I have talked to a number of people who hate what I teach, simply because they, at one time, wanted to believe it to be true, TRIED that faith stuff by praying for their healing, only to be disappointed, hurt, and frustrated, when nothing happened or maybe it got worse.
Jesus said, "According to your faith, be it done unto you."
That is either a truth, or it is a lie.
We either have to believe God got it wrong, the writer, or the unthinkable... YOU.
Whose report should we believe?

Jas 1:6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
Jas 1:7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.

"Nothing wavering" means, no doubt of any kind, at all, EVER, not even for a moment.
But if you do waver, God wants you to know, you won't receive ANYTHING OF OR FROM HIM.
I have read all your responses to me, and all I hear is doubt, doubt, and more doubt, aside from the other things I said in my previous posts.
You don't sound like a believer, at least, you don't talk like a believer, but you look like a doubter or a wolf in... I wouldn't even call it, sheep's clothing.
I hear everything about the realities of this world, and how little authority we have and ineffective and insignificant we are.
If we were of this world, all those things would be true, but we are not of this world, and even though we, in and of ourselves, are insignificant, weak, and ineffective in the things of this world, we are NOT any of those things, because of WHO and WHAT is in us, and whose name we can speak with and in authority.
Jesus said, "If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, you shall ask what you will, and it shall be done unto you."
You do NOT have God's word abiding in you.
You have the world's word abiding in you, and that is just one reason why you won't get anything from God.
And no, I would not pray for you, even for a moment. I would be wasting my time and energy.
Even Jesus couldn't heal because of "their unbelief".
And even though it is written, "command ye me", in the old testament somewhere, it is not actually commanding God Himself, per se, but His offspring. That is to say, His word/seed/offspring.
His word is subject and servant to the believer, and it is this said word going forth out of our mouths, is the power of God that moves in our lives.
And yes, it creates the same way it did when God spoke the worlds into existence.
The word of God, which is the flesh and blood of Jesus we must drink to have eternal life, which is the offspring of the Holy Spirit, is the worker/servant/soldier, who is subject to the sender.
So in a sense, we are commanding God, because it is of and from Him, but in reality, it is His offspring.
And from there, we can say like God did in Isaiah 11:55, "So shall God's word be that goeth forth out of my mouth, it shall not return to me void, but accomplish that which I please, and prosper in the thing whereto I send it".
It is not us who does the work, but the word of God that goes forth from our hearts, out of our mouths.
And a dumb person can get saved simple by acting on the word he/she believes. One thing would be to simply mouth it or speak in sign language, any action based on the word they both believe and have received personally, or for themselves.

 

[Guojing]

I used a similar promise in God's word to get my healing.
You are seeing it in a negative way.
Read the below verse.

Luk 8:17 For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.
Luk 8:18 Take heed therefore how ye hear: for whosoever hath, to him shall be given; and whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he seemeth to have.

Have you ever wondered how something spiritual is brought into the physical or is made into flesh? Like sicknesses and diseases?
Understand this about the verses above.
It IS what faith is.
It is the very definition of what faith is.
Faith is a noun. A person, place, thing, or event.
And where does faith come from?
The heart, right?
And where are the things you hope for?
Also the heart.
What is hope?
It is an inward vision or imagination of and from the heart.
For it to move from a hope, which is future tense, to faith, present tense, one MUST believe one of God's promises that, that being, it [the thing hoped for] is given.
The part that says, "whosoever hath or has", is speaking about believing the thing hoped for, HAS BEEN GIVEN, after you asked for it.
If you don't believe you have the thing hoped for, then it has no substance, and it will remain, just a hope of your.
Look what Mk says.

Mar 11:24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.

When do you need to believe you have received the thing you asked for?
I'm going to switch things around a bit to clarify or make it easier to see.

Mar 11:24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, believe that ye receive, when ye pray, and ye shall have them.

I took out the word "them" also, as it is not in the text but is inferred.
Jesus is telling us, we are to believe it is given to us, WHEN WE PRAY, NOT AFTER WE GET THE THING. If that were possible.
And then, "ye shall have", future tense.
So what is faith?
It is having the very thing you imagine in your heart. It is the very thing you see or envision in your heart.
Now for the last part of the verse in lk 8:18.
"..., and whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he seemeth to have. "

That is the verse I used to get my healing.
I rejected, what felt like, flu symptoms after 2 and 1/2 days, and it was getting progressively worse.
After rejecting the symptoms, I commanded the thing to go, for about an hour and 1/2.
When I stopped praying, it started easing immediately, and after about a half hour, all the symptoms were gone.
My point is, don't just see that verse as God taking away something good, but use it to take away bad things.
I can tell you more stories of me using that promise to take away bad things.

My view is simply, you already have the healing inside you, but if you open your mouth and say that you don’t, this double mindness will result in God taking that healing away from you

 

[know1]

My view is simply, you already have the healing inside you, but if you open your mouth and say that you don’t, this double mindness will result in God taking that healing away from you

Sounds scriptural to me.
Kind of like what God did to Peter.

Mat 14:25 And in the fourth watch of the night Jesus went unto them, walking on the sea.
Mat 14:26 And when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were troubled, saying, It is a spirit; and they cried out for fear.
Mat 14:27 But straightway Jesus spake unto them, saying, Be of good cheer; it is I; be not afraid.
Mat 14:28 And Peter answered him and said, Lord, if it be thou, bid me come unto thee on the water.
Mat 14:29 And he said, Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water, to go to Jesus.
Mat 14:30 But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me.
Mat 14:31 And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?

 

[know1]

Let's see you use it to avoid any aging and death.

Won't happen dude.

Well, at least we're making some progress by believing I got my healing through and by the word/promise of God.
So how's that doubting stuff working out for you in your own life?
Yeah, that's what I thought.
You know, at first I thought you just hated believers, but the more I listen to you, the more I think you are just bitter with God.
At least, you talk like you hate the promises of God, because the word will say one thing, and like the devil, you say the opposite.
The word or promises of God gives believers hope for better things and a better life, and all I hear from you is gloom and doom, and doubt, doubt, and more doubt.
It is written, "let every man be a liar, but God be true".
Last I saw, the bible said, "And the Word was God."
You keep calling God a liar while making it sound like what you are saying is the truth OVER the word of God.
That's not a very smart thing to do, and in my opinion, you are treading on very thin ice.
Become a true believer, by believing the word or promises of God OVER what you see, feel, experience, and/or think.

 

[UnitedWithChrist]

Well, at least we're making some progress by believing I got my healing through and by the word/promise of God.
So how's that doubting stuff working out for you in your own life?
Yeah, that's what I thought.
You know, at first I thought you just hated believers, but the more I listen to you, the more I think you are just bitter with God.
At least, you talk like you hate the promises of God, because the word will say one thing, and like the devil, you say the opposite.
The word or promises of God gives believers hope for better things and a better life, and all I hear from you is gloom and doom, and doubt, doubt, and more doubt.
It is written, "let every man be a liar, but God be true".
Last I saw, the bible said, "And the Word was God."
You keep calling God a liar while making it sound like what you are saying is the truth OVER the word of God.
That's not a very smart thing to do, and in my opinion, you are treading on very thin ice.
Become a true believer, by believing the word or promises of God OVER what you see, feel, experience, and/or think.

Firstly, I am not bitter and I don't hate believers.

In fact, my understanding of how God uses suffering allows me to be joyful in the midst of unpleasant circumstances.

Secondly, I don't hate the promises of God. Nor do I experience heartache over unmet expectations, like WoF theology leads some people to.

Ultimately, it should lead to the same in all of them, because their body will age and decay and fail on them.

Thirdly, I realize that the primary reward of those who follow Christ is in the New Heavens and the New Earth.

Fourthly, you are a liar, because you claimed that I called God a liar. I never called God a liar. He doesn't lie. If I don't believe in YOUR UNDERSTANDING of God's promises, that doesn't mean I am a liar. Your understanding is unbiblical.

 

[UnitedWithChrist]

I have talked to a number of people who hate what I teach, simply because they, at one time, wanted to believe it to be true, TRIED that faith stuff by praying for their healing, only to be disappointed, hurt, and frustrated, when nothing happened or maybe it got worse.
Jesus said, "According to your faith, be it done unto you."
That is either a truth, or it is a lie.
We either have to believe God got it wrong, the writer, or the unthinkable... YOU.
Whose report should we believe?

Jas 1:6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
Jas 1:7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.

"Nothing wavering" means, no doubt of any kind, at all, EVER, not even for a moment.
But if you do waver, God wants you to know, you won't receive ANYTHING OF OR FROM HIM.
I have read all your responses to me, and all I hear is doubt, doubt, and more doubt, aside from the other things I said in my previous posts.
You don't sound like a believer, at least, you don't talk like a believer, but you look like a doubter or a wolf in... I wouldn't even call it, sheep's clothing.
I hear everything about the realities of this world, and how little authority we have and ineffective and insignificant we are.
If we were of this world, all those things would be true, but we are not of this world, and even though we, in and of ourselves, are insignificant, weak, and ineffective in the things of this world, we are NOT any of those things, because of WHO and WHAT is in us, and whose name we can speak with and in authority.
Jesus said, "If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, you shall ask what you will, and it shall be done unto you."
You do NOT have God's word abiding in you.
You have the world's word abiding in you, and that is just one reason why you won't get anything from God.
And no, I would not pray for you, even for a moment. I would be wasting my time and energy.
Even Jesus couldn't heal because of "their unbelief".
And even though it is written, "command ye me", in the old testament somewhere, it is not actually commanding God Himself, per se, but His offspring. That is to say, His word/seed/offspring.
His word is subject and servant to the believer, and it is this said word going forth out of our mouths, is the power of God that moves in our lives.
And yes, it creates the same way it did when God spoke the worlds into existence.
The word of God, which is the flesh and blood of Jesus we must drink to have eternal life, which is the offspring of the Holy Spirit, is the worker/servant/soldier, who is subject to the sender.
So in a sense, we are commanding God, because it is of and from Him, but in reality, it is His offspring.
And from there, we can say like God did in Isaiah 11:55, "So shall God's word be that goeth forth out of my mouth, it shall not return to me void, but accomplish that which I please, and prosper in the thing whereto I send it".

This is nutty. You're just claiming to have God's power. You know, the more and more I read about Word of Faith people, I am convinced that they want a god they can control and manipulate. It's repulsive and disgusting. God is sovereign. I'm wondering if you read the Bible, actually, or whether you rely on the teachings of WoFers like Frederick Price, Kenneth Copeland, Kenneth Hagen or Joyce Meyer for your understanding.

It is not us who does the work, but the word of God that goes forth from our hearts, out of our mouths.
And a dumb person can get saved simple by acting on the word he/she believes. One thing would be to simply mouth it or speak in sign language, any action based on the word they both believe and have received personally, or for themselves.

Notice that he is giving the person the credit for their salvation. Well, this is typical in free-willer theology. He's basically claiming that God does not regenerate the person to save them. I can't really fault that to Word of Faith theology, because all free-willers believe this nonsense.

The reality is this: God gives the unbeliever a heart of flesh, to replace their stony heart, and this causes faith and repentance. The free-willer believes that the man, with his stony heart, must manufacture faith and repentance from his own resources, and as a result, he receives a heart of flesh. This is called "decisional regeneration", and it is a false doctrine. It leaves God with no glory, because ultimately the man saves himself. It is true that man, after being given a heart of flesh, responds in faith and repentance, but God causes salvation, not man. He is the first cause of their salvation.

Notice the Scriptural distortions of this person. He is claiming this promise is general rather than specific.

James is talking about WISDOM, not every demand of God that some shallow believer might make:

James 1:2-8 2 Count it all joy, my brothers, when you meet trials of various kinds, 3 for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness. 4 And let steadfastness have its full effect, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.
5 If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him. 6 But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea that is driven and tossed by the wind. 7 For that person must not suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord; 8 he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.
(ESV)

As I have said, if you have that sort of power, tell your health, wealth, prosperity god to cause my teeth to grow back..I have more than one missing. If you have perfect faith, like your claim is, then the teeth should appear. God answers your every request, right?

You might say, your faith limits God..however, you are the one praying, not me. You are praying for a particular result.

Now's your chance, bud...you can remove all doubt by claiming that my teeth will re-grow.

Of course, I know they will...at the resurrection, when all my issues will be removed and I will have a glorified body.

Just so it's clear, I believe God heals when it is his will. But, I don't determine what God's will is, nor do I know what is in store for me, and why he allowed particular health issues in me or anyone else. I do know he is the sovereign LORD, though, and his concern is my ultimate spiritual well-being.

Anyways, folks, realize that this man is a Scripture-twister. He takes a Scripture relating to wisdom, and extends it to every demand he may make.

That's exactly what these types do..they pick verses out, without looking at the context of the chapter, the book, or the Bible in general. It's what the cult leader did, who also taught Word of Faith theology..that is, until he got old and sick, and had multiple health procedures...not even admitting to the membership that he relied on constant medical care...and letting them and their families suffer the horrible results of no health care. He even watched his wife die of cancer because she refused to believe she would not be healed.

Here's an article by GotQuestions.org on the issues of Word of Faith theology:

https://www.gotquestions.org/Word-Faith.html

 

[UnitedWithChrist]

Here's a video on Word of Faith teachings:

 

[Jackson123]

My wife believes that Health is Wealth. A person would give all of their wealth in order to have good health. The question centers more on prosperity and how do we define Bible Prosperity. Even the NIV wants to use this word in Jeremiah 29:16 "For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future."

We are told in Psalm 139:16 that God writes the book of our life before we are even born. Every chapter and every verse. So that God's desire for us is written in a book that the Angels can read to help us to become the person God wants and intends for us to be. Does God want us to prosper and to be in good health? How can we understand Moses when he tells us that God's desire is for us to prosper? Again this is the NIV word because the KJV says: "See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;" Perhaps like Eve in the Garden we choose between good and evil in life.

"But the word is very near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart, so that you may obey it. See, I have set before you today life and prosperity, as well as death and disaster. For I am commanding you today to love the LORD your God, to walk in His ways, and to keep His commandments, statutes, and ordinances, so that you may live and increase, and the LORD your God may bless you in the land that you are entering to possess" (Deuteronomy 30:14,15,16)

https://biblehub.com/text/deuteronomy/30-15.htm

The Lord love all of us, He want all of us to go to heaven. Unfortunatelly rich make dificul to go to heaven.

I believe to make us easier yo go to heaven the Lord not make us rich

Mark 10:25 King James Version (KJV)
25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

Jesus also say about healt

If you health hand couse you to go to hell, make It sick

Yes Jesus want us rich and health but not temporary rich in earth, He focus oN eternal rich and health in heaven and It may couse you temporary poor and sick

Matthew 5:29-30 King James Version (KJV)
29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

As long as you get the ultimate profit pay It with poor and sick

We want rich oN earth and go to heaven. But I don't know why Jesus say rich hinder you to go to heaven.

 

[UnitedWithChrist]

The Lord love all of us, He want all of us to go to heaven. Unfortunatelly rich make dificul to go to heaven.

I believe to make us easier yo go to heaven the Lord not make us rich

Mark 10:25 King James Version (KJV)
25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

Jesus also say about healt

If you health hand couse you to go to hell, make It sick

Yes Jesus want us rich and health but not temporary rich in earth, He focus oN eternal rich and health in heaven and It may couse you temporary poor and sick

Matthew 5:29-30 King James Version (KJV)
29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

As long as you get the ultimate profit pay It with poor and sick

We want rich oN earth and go to heaven. But I don't know why Jesus say rich hinder you to go to heaven.

Great remarks.

Lazarus and the Rich Man is another...

Lazarus the beggar, who had sores all over his body that the dogs licked, was in heaven while the rich man was in hell.

And, believers of all types are subjected to poverty, sickness, and bodily injuries due to their faith. Mostly this happens in other countries, and American Christians aren't observant enough to know that we aren't the only Christians.

The reality is that we aren't even the "main Christians" now..Christianity is growing in Asia and Africa. If I was younger, I'd love to be a missionary there. I talk with Filipino Christians a lot, and they are much more spiritually minded than most Western Christians...sitting in front of their TVs with little regard for their suffering brothers.

Keep in mind that I'm not throwing everyone into the same bucket..I know that there are many Christians that do care, and pray and sacrifice for believers suffering extreme hardship. I doubt very many are Word of Faith, though..they probably think it's their own fault for not having enough faith.

 

[Jackson123]

Great remarks.

Lazarus and the Rich Man is another...

Lazarus the beggar, who had sores all over his body that the dogs licked, was in heaven while the rich man was in hell.

And, believers of all types are subjected to poverty, sickness, and bodily injuries due to their faith. Mostly this happens in other countries, and American Christians aren't observant enough to know that we aren't the only Christians.

The reality is that we aren't even the "main Christians" now..Christianity is growing in Asia and Africa. If I was younger, I'd love to be a missionary there. I talk with Filipino Christians a lot, and they are much more spiritually minded than most Western Christians...sitting in front of their TVs with little regard for their suffering brothers.

Keep in mind that I'm not throwing everyone into the same bucket..I know that there are many Christians that do care, and pray and sacrifice for believers suffering extreme hardship. I doubt very many are Word of Faith, though..they probably think it's their own fault for not having enough faith.

Yep, this is an Example richs are more dificult to go to heaven. Amrrica is rivh country, philipine is poor country and you Find out philiphine Christian more spiritual.

 

[know1]

Here's a video on Word of Faith teachings:

I'm sorry, I don't go to the dump to dig up trash.
I wouldn't waste my time listening to such garbage, I know too much about faith in God's word and from personal experience, to go back to the dump.
Unlike you sir, I KNOW what I'm talking about, and I KNOW I'm correct. I don't have even the slightest of doubts, none whatsoever.
Only and idiot would turn from that which both delivered and healed you, the weak and beggarly of the dark side.
Unlike you, I don't suffer, in part, because of applying/sending/speaking the word of God, or rather, the promises of God, into and at the situation and conditions of my life, as does my wife.
"And this is the victory we have over the world, even our faith."
I don't listen to doubt, when I can teach faith in Christ, who is the truth.

 

[UnitedWithChrist]

I'm sorry, I don't go to the dump to dig up trash.
I wouldn't waste my time listening to such garbage, I know too much about faith in God's word and from personal experience, to go back to the dump.
Unlike you sir, I KNOW what I'm talking about, and I KNOW I'm correct. I don't have even the slightest of doubts, none whatsoever.
Only and idiot would turn from that which both delivered and healed you, the weak and beggarly of the dark side.
Unlike you, I don't suffer, in part, because of applying/sending/speaking the word of God, or rather, the promises of God, into and at the situation and conditions of my life, as does my wife.
"And this is the victory we have over the world, even our faith."
I don't listen to doubt, when I can teach faith in Christ, who is the truth.

It wasn’t for you. It was for those who don’t love the health, wealth, prosperity Koolaid.

Wait until you need eyeglasses, hearing aids, and casts/orthopedic aids due to accidents and aging.

Then you may just acknowledge that the Curse is real.

Or you might just keep deceiving yourself. Hard to say