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Lightskin said:
I would respect them if they did in fact state those very words, because you’re right, that is exactly how they feel but they deliberately refuse to say so.
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Grace is enough to save. And it CHANGES HEARTS whether instantly or in time. . Or do we deny this?
 
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EleventhHour said:
You know they always try to find ways to denigrate what Jesus has done... surely grace is not enough to save...... is what they are really saying..... but they will not come out and state it directly...they make it a sin issue.

Paul knew what the were really thinking and he stated their condemnation was just...how is that for hard truth.
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As I say, it is not what God has done, the problem is with us.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
I am not God, here you are asking me to judge a hypothetical not knowing thIs whole persons life. Based on 1 sin

and yes it is possible. If not you just condemned yourself and many others. All who sin in some fashion the rest of there lives
Living in sin is NOT one sin issue. It is a lifestyle of living completely is sin. Unable to not sin because you are lost

king David lived in adultry as did Abraham who also had multiple wives

are they lost?
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I did not ask you to judge. What does the Bible say? And no, David was not lost, because the Shepherd who does not fail recovered him. 😀
 
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EleventhHour said:
Hardly...and we have been here before you know.

In my new developing kindness and patience since @dcontroversal has had that influence on me I might actually come back and explain it to you. :)
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What does 1 John 3:10 say? By this we know WHAT?

Is John telling his readers to be fruit inspecters? Certainly not!

But he said by this we know the children of God. Sorry it goes against your traditions
 
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PS said:
Do you ask to be forgiven?
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I confess my sin, thank God for forgiving me because he has, and move on not in fear but gratitude I am still his and do not receive what I deserve
 
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PS said:
Yes. A runner in the flesh, and saved in the spirit. Unless I drop out.

That will never happen
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What you fail to recognize and embrace is that your being a contestant in the first place means it doesn’t matter if you dropped out or not, you’re still deemed a contestant.
 
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Lightskin said:
What you fail to recognize and embrace is that your being a contestant in the first place means it doesn’t matter if you dropped out or not, you’re still deemed a contestant.
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If I drop out, I do not get the prize, just like Paul said.
 
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