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Was not necessarily calling you a fool.....this site is replete with salvation losers, cainologists and Pharisees that constantly devaule Jesus, his faith, power and promises and the irrevocable gift of eternal life that he MAINTAINS BY THE FAITH HE BEGINS, FINISHES AND COMPLETES...we are KEPT by his power.....and if you hang long enough you will see an incessant assault on the truth, God, Jesus and those that hold to the truth by those that worship a Jeezus not found in scripture.....Sorry if I offended you or if it seemed like I was railing on you personally.
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Do you teach that man is saved by grace through faith plus obedience/works? 
I've been in multiple discussions over the years with Roman Catholics and Seventh Day Adventists who promote salvation by works and Revelation 22:14 is a common verse they quote to support salvation by works.
In Revelation 22:14, "do His commandments" does not mean that we merit eternal life based on the merits of our performance, but is the evidence that we have been granted eternal life through faith and are born of God. This is not about sinless perfection either. In 1 John 2:3, we read - By this we know that we have come to know Him, *(already know Him/already saved/demonstrative evidence)* if we "keep" (Greek word "tereo" - guard, observe, watch over) His commandments. 4 The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and does not keep (guard, observe, watch over) His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
Other translations of Revelation 22:14 read, "Blessed are those who wash their robes," which symbolizes those who have been forgiven of their sins through the blood of the Lamb (Romans 3:24-26). *Also see Revelation 7:14. Revelation 22:15 is descriptive of unbelievers.
I've been in multiple discussions over the years with Roman Catholics and Seventh Day Adventists who promote salvation by works and Revelation 22:14 is a common verse they quote to support salvation by works. In Revelation 22:14, "do His commandments" does not mean that we merit eternal life based on the merits of our performance, but is the evidence that we have been granted eternal life through faith and are born of God. This is not about sinless perfection either. In 1 John 2:3, we read - By this we know that we have come to know Him, *(already know Him/already saved/demonstrative evidence)* if we "keep" (Greek word "tereo" - guard, observe, watch over) His commandments. 4 The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and does not keep (guard, observe, watch over) His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
Other translations of Revelation 22:14 read, "Blessed are those who wash their robes," which symbolizes those who have been forgiven of their sins through the blood of the Lamb (Romans 3:24-26). *Also see Revelation 7:14. Revelation 22:15 is descriptive of unbelievers.
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Hey, by the way...and to all my friends that hold to the truth....It is almost New Years here in Sydney.....2 hours to go....Happy New Year my friends.....watching the ole 65 inch HD Plasma, having a rare drink in moderation, jammin a little music....and STILL SAVED ETERNALLY.....miss you guys
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Do you teach that man is saved by grace through faith plus obedience/works? I've been in multiple discussions over the years with Roman Catholics and Seventh Day Adventists who promote salvation by works and Revelation 22:14 is a common verse they quote to support salvation by works.
In Revelation 22:14, "do His commandments" does not mean that we merit eternal life based on the merits of our performance, but is the evidence that we have been granted eternal life through faith and are born of God. This is not about sinless perfection either. In 1 John 2:3, we read - By this we know that we have come to know Him, *(already know Him/already saved/demonstrative evidence)* if we "keep" (Greek word "tereo" - guard, observe, watch over) His commandments. 4 The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and does not keep (guard, observe, watch over) His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
Other translations of Revelation 22:14 read, "Blessed are those who wash their robes," which symbolizes those who have been forgiven of their sins through the blood of the Lamb (Romans 3:24-26). *Also see Revelation 7:14. Revelation 22:15 is descriptive of unbelievers.
I've been in multiple discussions over the years with Roman Catholics and Seventh Day Adventists who promote salvation by works and Revelation 22:14 is a common verse they quote to support salvation by works.In Revelation 22:14, "do His commandments" does not mean that we merit eternal life based on the merits of our performance, but is the evidence that we have been granted eternal life through faith and are born of God. This is not about sinless perfection either. In 1 John 2:3, we read - By this we know that we have come to know Him, *(already know Him/already saved/demonstrative evidence)* if we "keep" (Greek word "tereo" - guard, observe, watch over) His commandments. 4 The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and does not keep (guard, observe, watch over) His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
Other translations of Revelation 22:14 read, "Blessed are those who wash their robes," which symbolizes those who have been forgiven of their sins through the blood of the Lamb (Romans 3:24-26). *Also see Revelation 7:14. Revelation 22:15 is descriptive of unbelievers.
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@EleventhHour Good morning, good evening and almost happy New Year from down under hahah
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@EleventhHour Good morning, good evening and almost happy New Year from down under hahah
Happy New Year to the one in the land down under!
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Are you sure he was a Christian man? Sounds like a straw man argument to me. 1 John 3:9 - No one who is born of God practices sin..
Those who are born of God confess "speak the same/acknowledge/agree" with God's perspective about their sins and have a settled recognition and acknowledgment that one is a sinner in need of cleansing and forgiveness. I'm sure there are people who may have walked the aisle at church in the past and prayed the sinners prayer believing that just because they recited that prayer (even though there was no genuine repentance and faith) that they are now safe and secure no matter how much they live like the devil. Such people demonstrate a bogus conversion.
In regards to 1 John 1:9, notice that - If we confess our sins, he is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness (vs. 9) is IN CONTRAST TO - If we say that we have no sin, (present tense) we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us (vs. 8) and - If we say that we have not sinned, (past tense) we make him a liar, and his word is not in us (vs. 10). 1 John 1:9 is not about confessing each and every sin that we commit as we commit them" (keep a specific inventory) as an "additional requirement" to "remain cleansed" and "if we forget a sin we are toast," as some teach.
It's scriptural when properly understood. The real danger is with false conversions.
You seem to be absolutely obsessed with attacking the OSAS doctrine. Prior to my conversion several years ago while still attending the Roman Catholic church, I too opposed the OSAS doctrine and lived in fear and bondage to IN-security, which only resulted in misery. I've noticed ALL false religions and cults that teach salvation by works also strongly oppose OSAS, which has always been a red flag for me.
Those who are born of God confess "speak the same/acknowledge/agree" with God's perspective about their sins and have a settled recognition and acknowledgment that one is a sinner in need of cleansing and forgiveness. I'm sure there are people who may have walked the aisle at church in the past and prayed the sinners prayer believing that just because they recited that prayer (even though there was no genuine repentance and faith) that they are now safe and secure no matter how much they live like the devil. Such people demonstrate a bogus conversion.
In regards to 1 John 1:9, notice that - If we confess our sins, he is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness (vs. 9) is IN CONTRAST TO - If we say that we have no sin, (present tense) we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us (vs. 8) and - If we say that we have not sinned, (past tense) we make him a liar, and his word is not in us (vs. 10). 1 John 1:9 is not about confessing each and every sin that we commit as we commit them" (keep a specific inventory) as an "additional requirement" to "remain cleansed" and "if we forget a sin we are toast," as some teach.
It's scriptural when properly understood. The real danger is with false conversions.
You seem to be absolutely obsessed with attacking the OSAS doctrine. Prior to my conversion several years ago while still attending the Roman Catholic church, I too opposed the OSAS doctrine and lived in fear and bondage to IN-security, which only resulted in misery. I've noticed ALL false religions and cults that teach salvation by works also strongly oppose OSAS, which has always been a red flag for me.
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Awwwe @mailmandan I am so happy you find my comments useful...imagine life without wrenches.
And I will not drop the "r" in that word.
My 2020 resolution to be more comical!!
And I will not drop the "r" in that word.
My 2020 resolution to be more comical!!
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