CDC Confirms A THC Additive, Vitamin E Acetate, Is The Culprit In Most Vaping Deaths

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CDC Confirms A THC Additive, Vitamin E Acetate, Is The Culprit In Most Vaping Deaths



December 20, 2019



A health-surveillance system put in place after the terrorist attacks of September 2001 has been used to pinpoint the cause of the vaping-related lung injuries that have killed 54 Americans and sent more than 2,500 people to the hospital.

Using this system, researchers at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have found that the lung injuries rose sharply in June of this year.

Dr. Anne Schuchat, the CDC's principal deputy director, says this sharp spike strongly points to a single culprit for most of these cases: vitamin E acetate, an additive found in illicit cannabis-containing vapes. [more]

A friend of mine calls all these reports updates on the culling of the herd. They see China's being the foremost exporter of Fentanyl, and these deaths, as part of an agenda relating to population control that centers on the weak. Which would be junkies.

They're getting this from a study, centered around climate changes, that appears to say the world population must be controlled through gradual measures aimed at reduction of that global populace. They say this is why abortion in America will not be outlawed again. Because it is utilized by "all the right people".
They emailed me, which is why I know this kind of stuff.
The study link

"...Still increasing by roughly 80 million people per year, or more than 200,000 per day (figure 1a–b), the world population must be stabilized—and, ideally, gradually reduced—within a framework that ensures social integrity. There are proven and effective policies that strengthen human rights while lowering fertility rates and lessening the impacts of population growth on GHG emissions and biodiversity loss. These policies make family-planning services available to all people, remove barriers to their access and achieve full gender equity, including primary and secondary education as a global norm for all, especially girls and young women (Bongaarts and O’Neill 2018). "
Source

When vaping first hit the market I figured it was a no brainer given the pursuit of prohibitions on cigarettes in the public sector. When laws were passed making smoking in federal and most state prisons illegal, causing tobacco to be one of the, if not the, number one contraband product, I knew something had to take its place.
Sure enough, vaping! It reminded me of a marketing strategy that imagined smokers were like babies with pacifiers. They had to have something for that hand to mouth muscle memory to feel secure again since cigarettes weren't as accessible in public as they once were.

Who smokes something like this? You have no idea what's in the oils, it just seems like a good idea to inhale vapor flavored like bubblegum? Or THC?

Hey what could be the harm? Drawing hot vapor into raw delicate mouth, throat and lung tissues can't be bad for you, right?
 

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Another venture going on for years now is the 'chem-trails'. Nobody can tell me they aren't real, I see them daily, here and surrounding areas. I see them in movies from different states and countries also.
I was at a city council meeting and went right up to the mayor. We happened to be by a window where we could see the fumes being spread out of a drone, and I asked him 'what is that stuff being emitted?'.
As the mayor, he said 'I'll have to get back to you', which he didn't. I called all over to get any info, and got nothing but jet fumes. Yeah, but they aren't jets they are drones, clearly visable, esp w/ binoculars.
So I pray for protection from whatever that is!
 
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EleventhHour

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CDC Confirms A THC Additive, Vitamin E Acetate, Is The Culprit In Most Vaping Deaths



December 20, 2019



A health-surveillance system put in place after the terrorist attacks of September 2001 has been used to pinpoint the cause of the vaping-related lung injuries that have killed 54 Americans and sent more than 2,500 people to the hospital.

Using this system, researchers at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have found that the lung injuries rose sharply in June of this year.

Dr. Anne Schuchat, the CDC's principal deputy director, says this sharp spike strongly points to a single culprit for most of these cases: vitamin E acetate, an additive found in illicit cannabis-containing vapes. [more]

A friend of mine calls all these reports updates on the culling of the herd. They see China's being the foremost exporter of Fentanyl, and these deaths, as part of an agenda relating to population control that centers on the weak. Which would be junkies.

They're getting this from a study, centered around climate changes, that appears to say the world population must be controlled through gradual measures aimed at reduction of that global populace. They say this is why abortion in America will not be outlawed again. Because it is utilized by "all the right people".
They emailed me, which is why I know this kind of stuff.
The study link

"...Still increasing by roughly 80 million people per year, or more than 200,000 per day (figure 1a–b), the world population must be stabilized—and, ideally, gradually reduced—within a framework that ensures social integrity. There are proven and effective policies that strengthen human rights while lowering fertility rates and lessening the impacts of population growth on GHG emissions and biodiversity loss. These policies make family-planning services available to all people, remove barriers to their access and achieve full gender equity, including primary and secondary education as a global norm for all, especially girls and young women (Bongaarts and O’Neill 2018). "
Source

When vaping first hit the market I figured it was a no brainer given the pursuit of prohibitions on cigarettes in the public sector. When laws were passed making smoking in federal and most state prisons illegal, causing tobacco to be one of the, if not the, number one contraband product, I knew something had to take its place.
Sure enough, vaping! It reminded me of a marketing strategy that imagined smokers were like babies with pacifiers. They had to have something for that hand to mouth muscle memory to feel secure again since cigarettes weren't as accessible in public as they once were.

Who smokes something like this? You have no idea what's in the oils, it just seems like a good idea to inhale vapor flavored like bubblegum? Or THC?

Hey what could be the harm? Drawing hot vapor into raw delicate mouth, throat and lung tissues can't be bad for you, right?

Basically ....if people are going to Vap they should fork out the money and buy the right equipment.... not the cheap junk which has proven to be risky.
 
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I would not think any vaping paraphernalia would be safe, regardless of the cost.
One problem is as stated in the article the other is cheap vap apparatus which melts into the material.

Good quality costs about $300.00
 

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First of all vaping is a hair brained idea to begin with because concentrate tobacco resins can't be any less addictive or harmful. I realize that it eliminates some of the harm that burned organic materials create. However the harm reduction aspect in my opinion is overridden by concentration of the most harmful ingredient. Tobacco! Adding THC will increase the pleasure. That creates more of a problem because it also adds to the addictive nature overall.

Now, something that Conservative should catch on to. Recognizing China as a favored trading partner is a dumb move. China is not interested in USA's economic prosperity. They're Communists! Of course they can sell man made goods cheaper if the quality of life remains stagnant they are happy.
 

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First of all vaping is a hair brained idea to begin with because concentrate tobacco resins can't be any less addictive or harmful. I realize that it eliminates some of the harm that burned organic materials create. However the harm reduction aspect in my opinion is overridden by concentration of the most harmful ingredient. Tobacco! Adding THC will increase the pleasure. That creates more of a problem because it also adds to the addictive nature overall.

Now, something that Conservative should catch on to. Recognizing China as a favored trading partner is a dumb move. China is not interested in USA's economic prosperity. They're Communists! Of course they can sell man made goods cheaper if the quality of life remains stagnant they are happy.
I've said since president Clinton gave China, most favored nation trade status, that we are fools for that. And it was inked not long after the Tiananmen Square massacre and Democracy protests. China is not our friend!

They're buying America through shell companies, they're even funding mortgages through our banks. That's one heck of a way to try and "take over" a country, don't you think?


We also err if we forget all the recalls of China made products in the past years due to their containing toxic ingredients. From children's items to pet snacks. Made in china dog treats recalled
Remember too that China has the sick and disgusting annual Yulin dog meat festival! :( Where stray dog's are captured, tortured to death, skinned often times while alive and cooked and served to people! (If you search out, Yulin dog meat festival, be prepared to be horrified! Even in just a web links search they have pictures. :cry: )

Toxic dog treats has been an issue for years. Whether they're made in China or not.
Toxic Dog Jerky Treats: 3 Safe and Tasty Homemade Pet Treat Recipes

By Dr. Andrew Jones

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued another warning about toxic dog jerky treats.

More than 1,000 dogs have died as a result of the toxic treats, and the FDA has received 4,800 reports of pet illnesses since 2007.

In this video Dr Jones gives you 3 safe, simple and safe dog treat recipes that you can make at home, and avoid purchasing toxic dog treats.
 

calibob

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I've said since president Clinton gave China, most favored nation trade status, that we are fools for that. And it was inked not long after the Tiananmen Square massacre and Democracy protests. China is not our friend!

They're buying America through shell companies, they're even funding mortgages through our banks. That's one heck of a way to try and "take over" a country, don't you think?


We also err if we forget all the recalls of China made products in the past years due to their containing toxic ingredients. From children's items to pet snacks. Made in china dog treats recalled
Remember too that China has the sick and disgusting annual Yulin dog meat festival! :( Where stray dog's are captured, tortured to death, skinned often times while alive and cooked and served to people! (If you search out, Yulin dog meat festival, be prepared to be horrified! Even in just a web links search they have pictures. :cry: )

Toxic dog treats has been an issue for years. Whether they're made in China or not.
Toxic Dog Jerky Treats: 3 Safe and Tasty Homemade Pet Treat Recipes

By Dr. Andrew Jones

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued another warning about toxic dog jerky treats.

More than 1,000 dogs have died as a result of the toxic treats, and the FDA has received 4,800 reports of pet illnesses since 2007.

In this video Dr Jones gives you 3 safe, simple and safe dog treat recipes that you can make at home, and avoid purchasing toxic dog treats.
It's almost 2:30 am here now. Have a blessed new year. I outie.
 

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First of all vaping is a hair brained idea to begin with because concentrate tobacco resins can't be any less addictive or harmful. I realize that it eliminates some of the harm that burned organic materials create. However the harm reduction aspect in my opinion is overridden by concentration of the most harmful ingredient. Tobacco! Adding THC will increase the pleasure. That creates more of a problem because it also adds to the addictive nature overall.
Well, the purpose of this thread seemed to be a PSA but somehow we took the last 4 sentences and this has been the basis for discussion. I am definitely interested in an informative discussion on vaping and nicotine in general...Even presuming that the physical effects are mitigated substantially with vaping vs smoking (digital vs analog as I have seen in some forums) the mental effects are hardly changed, and spiritually it is obviously a work of the flesh. Even assuming it were not sin, you would be VERY hard pressed to present it as worship unto the Lord.

If that's the direction, I'll certainly offer my thoughts/information.


In regard to the article itself, yes your assertion about "weeding out" could have some validity and it is a good point, and one I had not considered @Whispered

There is a LOT to be suggested from this well publicized "scare" with vaping. I am glad that is was debunked, it is amazing that so much legislation was used as a springboard because of erroneous information and passed into law however.
 
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Hey what could be the harm? Drawing hot vapor into raw delicate mouth, throat and lung tissues can't be bad for you, right?
Probably more healthy for you than cancer and multiple sclerosis. Cheaper too, I'd guess.
 
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First of all vaping is a hair brained idea to begin with because concentrate tobacco resins can't be any less addictive or harmful. I realize that it eliminates some of the harm that burned organic materials create. However the harm reduction aspect in my opinion is overridden by concentration of the most harmful ingredient. Tobacco! Adding THC will increase the pleasure. That creates more of a problem because it also adds to the addictive nature overall.

Now, something that Conservative should catch on to. Recognizing China as a favored trading partner is a dumb move. China is not interested in USA's economic prosperity. They're Communists! Of course they can sell man made goods cheaper if the quality of life remains stagnant they are happy.
As a side note... not really communist.

They have a mixed economy...many private corporations. What they have is an authoritarian regime.
 
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As a side note... not really communist.

They have a mixed economy...many private corporations. What they have is an authoritarian regime.
Is there any practical difference between communism and an authoritarian regime? Doesn't the one always lead to the other?
 
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Is there any practical difference between communism and an authoritarian regime? Doesn't the one always lead to the other?
If we define Communism as public ownership and where the workers own the means of production then China cannot be classified as Communist ....while government controls some parts of the economy there is a great deal of private enterprise.

It was a stagnant command economy which was reformed mostly in the 80's to allow for privitization and has since seen tremendous growth in GDP.
 

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I've said since president Clinton gave China, most favored nation trade status, that we are fools for that. And it was inked not long after the Tiananmen Square massacre and Democracy protests. China is not our friend!

They're buying America through shell companies, they're even funding mortgages through our banks. That's one heck of a way to try and "take over" a country, don't you think?


We also err if we forget all the recalls of China made products in the past years due to their containing toxic ingredients. From children's items to pet snacks. Made in china dog treats recalled
Remember too that China has the sick and disgusting annual Yulin dog meat festival! :( Where stray dog's are captured, tortured to death, skinned often times while alive and cooked and served to people! (If you search out, Yulin dog meat festival, be prepared to be horrified! Even in just a web links search they have pictures. :cry: )

Toxic dog treats has been an issue for years. Whether they're made in China or not.
Toxic Dog Jerky Treats: 3 Safe and Tasty Homemade Pet Treat Recipes

By Dr. Andrew Jones

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued another warning about toxic dog jerky treats.

More than 1,000 dogs have died as a result of the toxic treats, and the FDA has received 4,800 reports of pet illnesses since 2007.

In this video Dr Jones gives you 3 safe, simple and safe dog treat recipes that you can make at home, and avoid purchasing toxic dog treats.
I lost a dog to that toxic Chinese food years ago. A good rule is to never buy any sort of food for you or your pets from China.
 
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EleventhHour

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Is there any practical difference between communism and an authoritarian regime? Doesn't the one always lead to the other?
I would also state there is a difference between a totalitarian regime and an authoritarian one....well at least according to political theory.
 
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If we define Communism as public ownership and where the workers own the means of production then China cannot be classified as Communist ....while government controls some parts of the economy there is a great deal of private enterprise.

It was a stagnant command economy which was reformed mostly in the 80's to allow for privitization and has since seen tremendous growth in GDP.
Doesn't everyone have to obtain membership in the ruling Communist Party in order to carry out their "private" business and to basically succeed?

So although such "Communist" governments may not directly control the entire economy, indirectly, they can control it as much as they want (by control of the memberships and hence success of individuals).
 

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If we define Communism as public ownership and where the workers own the means of production then China cannot be classified as Communist ....while government controls some parts of the economy there is a great deal of private enterprise.

It was a stagnant command economy which was reformed mostly in the 80's to allow for privitization and has since seen tremendous growth in GDP.
Due to unfair trade and opportunists like Wal Mart.

Changed from communistic to fascist it sounds like then. Kinda like Nazi Germany after Hitler took over the NAZI party and became the Furor?
 
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Changed from communistic to fascist it sounds like then. Kinda like Nazi Germany after Hitler took over the NAZI party and became the Furor?
Communism and fascism. Just two sides of the same coin.