Reject man-made works and election religions, but instead : -

[7seasrekeyed]

Jez yer "typical" lib-tards at work!
Accusing EVERYONE else, what they themselves ALONE are doing!
And, when they can't win the argument?
Resort to name calling.

well sadly I have seen the exact same results in many threads with different topics

this is a failure on the part of posters to moderate themselves

many sites would have kicked quite a few people off here while this site does not

I may have been booted outta here myself once or twice ...and I can hear some saying a whole lot more haha

I don't consider calling people, members in the forum here, lib-tards, very helpful...even if SOME of them fit the description

it just escalates

I don't consider threatening others with 'you better answer me...yakkity yak yak' to be mature or helpful either

some of you guys make me feel like a den mother

no I don't look like that so the 70's and older crowd don't get excited

ps to nayborbear....I'm not much on liberals either

 

[Lightskin]

Not "childish" at all!
Jez another FYI from Yeshua Messiah.

Jesus is not childish; you on the other hand prove it time and again. Carry on, son.

 

[BillG]

I see the wolves in sheep's clothing have come out of their cave!

Yes they have.

 

[BillG]

I think you just revealed something

another one who makes baseless attacks, and can not answer who theynare attacking and back up their claims.

Yep

 

[BillG]

Personally I just want to know who they were talking about. And if it was me, proof of why they think I a, that way

You won't get it bro.
They have no proof against you of what they accuse us off.
They just assume because of our interpretation of scripture then we promote a license to sin, do not good works.

Go out and commit adultery, murder and so on. In fact we can do it and do not give two hoots and it's all covered by grace.

We can tell them until we are blue in the face that is not the case and we do not believe and promote that. We could even send it on a postcard and it would be rejected. Return to sender.

The funny thing is that Paul addressed this in Romans 5-7.
He had to because the people at the time misunderstood what grace was all about.
It is and will never be a license to sin.

That was written to the early church.

It's in our Bible today, yet we have not read it?
Obviously because we promote a license to sin.

Sickening to the core.

Because I know we do not.

Anyway I need to finish this response because I am going to commit adultery, but that's ok because I don't care I'm doing it. In fact lived my whole married life doing it.
But no problems it's covered by grace.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You won't get it bro.
They have no proof against you of what they accuse us off.
They just assume because of our interpretation of scripture then we promote a license to sin, do not good works.

Go out and commit adultery, murder and so on. In fact we can do it and do not give two hoots and it's all covered by grace.

We can tell them until we are blue in the face that is not the case and we do not believe and promote that. We could even send it on a postcard and it would be rejected. Return to sender.

The funny thing is that Paul addressed this in Romans 5-7.
He had to because the people at the time misunderstood what grace was all about.
It is and will never be a license to sin.

That was written to the early church.

It's in our Bible today, yet we have not read it?
Obviously because we promote a license to sin.

Sickening to the core.

Because I know we do not.

Anyway I need to finish this response because I am going to commit adultery, but that's ok because I don't care I'm doing it. In fact lived my whole married life doing it.
But no problems it's covered by grace.

That’s why we push, so they can see

they have bought into this lie of what we believe, and they will not listen because it is all they know

 

[Lightskin]

You are on ignore.

EG hit the lottery!

 

[BillG]

That’s why we push, so they can see

they have bought into this lie of what we believe, and they will not listen because it is all they know

They will one day mate.
They will answer on judgement day.

I will leave it up to God.

As for me I know for sure that God will not judge me and accuse me of preaching his grace as a license to sin, just like you and other greasy gracers on here.

If I'm totally honest I do believe that doctrinal differences if wrong and building on the wrong Foundation will be burned up, but yet still be saved.

But I find it abborent and detestable to accuse those of us who believe in Jesus and ES/OSAS that we preach it's ok to sin all we want and still be saved.

Jesus will judge, on all accounts and that includes every word we say.

 

[Lightskin]

I need to finish this response because I am going to commit adultery, but that's ok because I don't care I'm doing it.

ROFLH

 

[NayborBear]

You won't get it bro.
They have no proof against you of what they accuse us off.
They just assume because of our interpretation of scripture then we promote a license to sin, do not good works.

Go out and commit adultery, murder and so on. In fact we can do it and do not give two hoots and it's all covered by grace.

We can tell them until we are blue in the face that is not the case and we do not believe and promote that. We could even send it on a postcard and it would be rejected. Return to sender.

The funny thing is that Paul addressed this in Romans 5-7.
He had to because the people at the time misunderstood what grace was all about.
It is and will never be a license to sin.

That was written to the early church.

It's in our Bible today, yet we have not read it?
Obviously because we promote a license to sin.

Sickening to the core.

Because I know we do not.

Anyway I need to finish this response because I am going to commit adultery, but that's ok because I don't care I'm doing it. In fact lived my whole married life doing it.
But no problems it's covered by grace.

Yanno, this is precisely the reason, the Disciples and Apostles of Christ warned "the gentiles of their day" of "spinning their wheels" concerning "the law!"
For "following the law", yet, they did not comprehend what they were doing.
IOW?
Tis better to be in the orchard thinking about God, then it is in "following the Mosaic law" and thinking about "OH!" "What such a good boy I am!"
This "mindset" is JUST as relevant with Jesus' 2 great commandments these days, as it was for Israel in those days.

 

[NayborBear]

well sadly I have seen the exact same results in many threads with different topics

this is a failure on the part of posters to moderate themselves

many sites would have kicked quite a few people off here while this site does not

I may have been booted outta here myself once or twice ...and I can hear some saying a whole lot more haha

I don't consider calling people, members in the forum here, lib-tards, very helpful...even if SOME of them fit the description

it just escalates

I don't consider threatening others with 'you better answer me...yakkity yak yak' to be mature or helpful either

some of you guys make me feel like a den mother

no I don't look like that so the 70's and older crowd don't get excited

ps to nayborbear....I'm not much on liberals either

Wished I had a nickel for every chat room, or forum site I have been kicked out of by those of the "You can speak yer peace, long as it doesn't interfere with "my piece!", "control freak" moderators, over the past 30 some years!
I could buy a loaf of bread!

This is the "why" I like this forum so much!
Cuz, a guy can "stretch out his legs", and be "covered", while "others" complain about the cold draft they're feeling, and demanding for someone to "close the windows!" If ya get my "draft!"

Another reason I like this forum so much, is that they don't seem to "yield" to the "I do the PAYIN'?" "I do the SAYIN'!", "mindset" that so many "tribal elders" are so want to do in their "control freak" fleshy ways! (cuz I'm certain, I woulda been booted a long time ago!....much to the disdain of "the some" in here. )
Except in "extreme" cases of "spamming!"

And? (sighs) Many a good believer has left this forum, because of "the some", and their escalative "dog-piling" tactics, of the "lemming" strength in numbers/run outta town on a rail mindset!

Not ever realizing that God and "you?"
ARE a majority!

As far as "escalating" goes? Even in "nature", there are some "seeds" that "never ever germinate", until after "heat" is applied! ("I beg your pardon!" "I never promised you a rose garden."....oughta be a song! )
Call it "God's way" of "carrying on" those "called by His name!"

ps..7seasrekeyed-Trump 2020!

I also don't believe there will ever be another democrat residing "in the oval."

 

[Lightskin]

Trump 2020!

I also don't believe there will ever be another democrat residing "in the oval."

There are some redeeming qualities about you after all. Much respect.

 

[dcontroversal]

I already stated we are positionally IN Christ and we do not have our own righteousness


from my post so obviously I have studied it nor have I ever understood it another way

y'all need to calm down LOL!

I would hope people here know I do not believe we are saved by works since I have stated so a good many times. but the ongoing issue is that we don't ignore the passages that instruct how a Christian should be living

people will state they are IN Christ but if someone posts anything from scripture that speaks of sin or how we should live they seem to fly off the handle

it's a shame folks cannot discuss anything outside of the 'not by works thread' without getting beat up

I said many....not you

 

[7seasrekeyed]

Wished I had a nickel for every chat room, or forum site I have been kicked out of by those of the "You can speak yer peace, long as it doesn't interfere with "my piece!", "control freak" moderators, over the past 30 some years!
I could buy a loaf of bread!

This is the "why" I like this forum so much!
Cuz, a guy can "stretch out his legs", and be "covered", while "others" complain about the cold draft they're feeling, and demanding for someone to "close the windows!" If ya get my "draft!"

Another reason I like this forum so much, is that they don't seem to "yield" to the "I do the PAYIN'?" "I do the SAYIN'!", "mindset" that so many "tribal elders" are so want to do in their "control freak" fleshy ways! (cuz I'm certain, I woulda been booted a long time ago!....much to the disdain of "the some" in here. )
Except in "extreme" cases of "spamming!"

And? (sighs) Many a good believer has left this forum, because of "the some", and their escalative "dog-piling" tactics, of the "lemming" strength in numbers/run outta town on a rail mindset!

Not ever realizing that God and "you?"
ARE a majority!

As far as "escalating" goes? Even in "nature", there are some "seeds" that "never ever germinate", until after "heat" is applied! ("I beg your pardon!" "I never promised you a rose garden."....oughta be a song! )
Call it "God's way" of "carrying on" those "called by His name!"

ps..7seasrekeyed-Trump 2020!

I also don't believe there will ever be another democrat residing "in the oval."

well can we talk? haha...apparently so!

I can handle just about what anyone tosses at me except for pettiness, lies and twisting words which changes intent or, changing their opinion, not saying so and then acting like you had them all wrong. know what I mean? I bet you do

there are some very inventive and unfair mods out there in forum land and I have met a few myself including those who lie and blame the poster or those who take a dislike to you for no reason other than you make more sense or you don't pat them on the back like some do...never been booted out of a forum though but I seem to have settled on this one and the mods here are fair IMO

I get yer draft LOL!

And? (sighs) Many a good believer has left this forum, because of "the some", and their escalative "dog-piling" tactics, of the "lemming" strength in numbers/run outta town on a rail mindset!

that is the truth. ^^^^^^^

it had better be Trump in '20!

sadly dems in the oval are inevitable and then you may never see another Republican. we have a preview of their intentions and we know the world does not escalate into peace



I will always object to the mocking and the name calling here though. that is something that every single person ought to pull in a notch on their belt and just quit. I can only imagine what goes through the heads of some in church. yet they hold their peace

I've been in a few trenches here and might be again but few things are worth it.

 

[7seasrekeyed]

I said many....not you

right

sorry

thanks

 

[Lightskin]

If I was you and believed in eternal security I would not be frightened to do any number of things. OSAS seems like a licence to do anything.

Those of us who believe in eternal security are not frightened to do anything, yet be that as it may we choose not to willfully sin because of our love for, and reverence to, God. What don’t you understand about that?

 

[Lightskin]

I wasn't talking to you

are you his lawyer?

That’s funny. I wasn’t talking to you and yet you so willfully interjected upon my conversation with someone else, and with an attitude I may add. And now you want to play the lawyer game.

 

[Lafftur]

I don't know about that.

Before He showed me His Love for me I didn't love Him.

But after I was shown I couldn't help but love Him back. Probably not as much as He first loved me.

1 John 4:9-10
9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.


If I didn't love God, but then God revealed Himself and then I did start loving God then He kind of did force me to worship Him.

I wasn't worshipping Him before, but now I am and its because of Him not because of me.

That has to be a manipulation.


But a manipulation and forcing me to do something that I am now thankful for. Extremely thankful for.

Thank you Lord, for pulling me out of my stupidity and my own way, and showing me Your Way and Truth.


I don't think we have the capacity to Love God until God gives us that gift. But most of you already know I believe that. When we think of the "Have to's" as gifts from God then we can understand Rest.

Nope. Love and obedience is a CHOICE.

 

[Lafftur]

Nope. Love and obedience is a CHOICE.

Love is sooo powerful. I’ll not only obey, I’ll fight to my dying breath to obey.......the emotion of love can compel me above and beyond any fear of people, self or enemy.

Love knows only victory.....Love never fails.

 

[Lafftur]

Who are you responding to please Lafftur?

Hello PS,

So sorry if my post was confusing. I simply responded from my heart and said what it wanted to say at the time.....not to anyone in particular, just what my heart wanted to say.......