This person has been here before , and before that , each time banned , same posting , same answers , never discussion ...
...xox...
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This person has been here before , and before that , each time banned , same posting , same answers , never discussion ...
...xox...
Although not coming in with guns blazing.
If true to form then pictures/videos of hell will be posted.
Notice how saved for/going to hell are creeping in.
You are mistaken, BECAUSE you are confusing SALVATION with SANCTIFICATION, THINKING THEY ARE THE SAME THING.
SALVATION happens before the Beginning of TIME, and becomes our personal REALITY the Moment we Truly BElIEVE, and the HOLY SPIRIT BIRTHS our Human Spirit into Eternal LIFE, therefore it is Salvation has to do with the Human Spirit. SALVATION, has nothing to do with the human Body.
Sanctification is a life long Process to molding our Bodies, one step at a time, a WORK of the HOLY SPIRIT, to WALK LIKE JESUS, and it will not be complete until the Resurrection when we get the GLORIFIED BODY. We SERVE HIM because of the LOVE, HE had the Holy Spirit put in Hearts, Rom. 5:5.
2 Timothy 1:9 (HCSB)
9 He has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace, which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began.
Titus 3:5-7 (HCSB)
5 He saved us— not by works of righteousness that we had done, but according to His mercy, through the washing of regeneration and renewal by the Holy Spirit.
6 He poured out this ⌊Spirit⌋ on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior,
7 so that having been 🖜 justified by His grace, we may become heirs with the hope of eternal life.
John 3:36 (HCSB)
36 The one who believes in the Son has eternal life 🖜, but the one who refuses to believe in the Son will not see life; instead, the wrath of God remains on him.
John 3:3-7 (HCSB)
3 Jesus replied, “I assure you: Unless someone is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
4 “But how can anyone be born when he is old?” Nicodemus asked Him. “Can he enter his mother’s womb a second time and be born?”
5 Jesus answered, “I assure you: Unless someone is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.
6 Whatever is born of the flesh is flesh, and whatever is born of the Spirit is spirit. 🖜{SALVATION is only of the Human Spirit.}
7 Do not be amazed that I told you that you must be born again.
Romans 6:18-19 (HCSB)
18 and having been liberated from sin, you became enslaved [TRUE OBEDIENCE, is only because we LOVE HIM.] to righteousness.
19 I am using a human analogy because of the weakness of your flesh. For just as you offered the parts of yourselves as slaves to moral impurity, and to greater and greater lawlessness, so now offer them as slaves [It is talking about Bondslaves, who willingly and LOVINGLY want to serve the MASTER, because it was a better living than to TRY to provide for themselves.] to righteousness, which results in sanctification. 🖜{SANCTIFICATION is of the Human Body, and is not complete until the Resurrection.}
Romans 8:24-25 (NJB)
24 In hope, we already have salvation 🖜{if we are Born Again}; in hope, not visibly present, or we should not be hoping—nobody goes on hoping for something which is already visible.
25 But having this hope for what we cannot yet see 🖜 [SANCTIFICATION OF THE BODY], we are able to wait for it with persevering confidence.
2 Thessalonians 2:13 (HCSB)
13 But we must always thank God for you, brothers loved by the Lord, because from the beginning God has chosen you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and through belief in the truth. {Remember IT IS THE HOLY SPIRIT IN YOU who is maturing our Bodies unto SANCTIFICATION , an ongoing continuing process until the RESURRECTION. SO, give the Holy Spirit the GLORY for Maturing Your Body, and you must accept the responsibility for the FAILURES and Confess Them.}
I do not care whether or not anyone comes in or goes out in this Christian Chat venue. However, this is a discussion forum where the bible can be discussed, honored and sometimes it is blasphemed. If one is disgusted, they should leave. Personally, I like to have discussion about the Word of God and that is why I am here. I also will not hesitate to express my thoughts and scripture to anyone who either tries to add/subtract/distort the Word of God.
Part of their stratagem...
divide et impera.
Cause the quarreling and fighting, then step back, have one of their pals jump in afterwards and point fingers.
Talk about hypocrisy...GEESH!
Good post, but JadenS has confused Salvation with Sanctification, and therefore he erroneously thinks nobody is saved until we get the Glorified Body, thus HE HAS WONDERED into a DIFFERENT BALL PARK, because of that error. Read my last post to him, maybe if he listens, there may be hope for him.
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EleventhHour
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Agree!
New style trying to improve longevity....but eventually the true nature rears is head!!
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EleventhHour
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You have high hopes sir... it will take a work of Christ Jesus to remove the blinders.
EleventhHour, just one question: since you put an agree on my post that Lordshandmaiden sounds like Leastamongmany, then HOW would you know Least? She left long before you joined.
Unless you were here before, and are trying to confuzzle us.. lol
Unless you were here before, and are trying to confuzzle us.. lol
It is what it is. SAD that there are diversities of interpretations. Whats the reason for this problem? SIMPLE: People just dont agree with MY interpretation. If everyone of you would just AGREE with my interpretation on EVERYTHING, we would not be so divided. Thanks a lot OTHER PEOPLE for ruining Christianity for us all
Hate to see you go, after such a long career here. We will all miss you!
Looks like we got ourselves a veteran! She set us straight! Done told us off we're just a bunch of HYPOCRITES.
I wouldn't of believed it but because someone on the internet said it, i'll take it to the bank.
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EleventhHour
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I have actually been reading this thread from the start little at a time when I have time waiting, like in line at the grocery store and such, you know they say we loose five years
of our lives in wait lines, for this reason I now do everything on line, but I do like picking out my own produce so have yet go to having it delivered.Some places I have read several times, some women have been very interesting let me tell you
... you will notice I have mentioned it several times it you go back through the last few weeks.On the other hand I have read some amazing posts which I have bumped up and will continue to do!!
I will look for one of yours.
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EleventhHour
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You be impressed by me then I have read entire text books in one day ...and they written a thirty page paper afterwards.....good times!!