Baby Boomers

[tasha66]

Yes you were the lucky ones.
Life is way harder for us who came after. And yes we have to deal with all the fallout from your generations overconsumption in general. Being such a big cohort you always got the lions share of everything.
God may still have a purpose for you, the baby boomer generation now entering retirement. But its an awful lot of you for us to support and care for in twilight years. If youve made it thus far, consider yourself blessed. As the previous generation were wiped out with the war.
If shopping online is all you have to worry about then you have it way easy.

Life is not way harder for us (50's + I'm talking about). We never went through world wars, we have never lived in a country that has been entirely invaded (though Darwin got bombed), we have wonderful medications, vaccinations, we weren't brought up in countries where we are sold as prized virgins at age 9 - I could go on.
** I'm just watching a show of a girl who got pregnant at age 9, her Mum sent her off as her Mum was embarrassed in front of the community & she got raped at age 10, AND she was 7 months pregnant, THEN she was made to marry the rapist who was a Deacon who was 20 years old! (in the USA). And nobody reported any of this or rescued her. She thought it was all her fault.**
And saying that baby boomers are 'an awful lot of you for us to support and care for in your twilight years' is a truly terrible thing to say. My job is health care, but I call it PEOPLE CARE. I care for the homeless; the seriously mentally ill that nobody wants; the smelly, drunk people who get dropped off at Emergency, and the families take off and leave them cos they can't cope; the dementias who defeacate themselves; the dispossessed; the desperately poor; the desperately lonely people who come voluntarily into hospital at Xmas cos nobody wants them, or they have no family. You get the picture. Most of these people are old - they are worn down to the bone by a world that doesn't give a crap about them - they're old and considered useless. Our Western society & attitudes re old people, and about so-called standards of 'beauty' has alot to answer for.
It's a privilege to care for these poor people, and to nurse them before they die from horrid diseases sometimes like Alzheimers which they have gained through no fault of their own.
I have sat next to a dying man and held his hand till he passed away - he had nobody in this world who cared about him; I've cared for people just before they have died & comforted the grieving relatives. I cared for a foreign woman who was only about 37 I think - she was doing well, but when I went back to work on Monday, she had passed away. She left 2 kids - one was 12 I think, the other 9 or so. Not all of these people were old.
Should they be considered nuisances too?
You have said in previous posts that you have mental health issues, I believe. Should I label you as a 'such & such a generation' and see you as a burden? No - as a professional in mental health, I would always treat you with respect and courtesy - irregardless of your age.
I gather you are still young. I really, really hope that you think about what you have said and pray for forgiveness.
I've also run a Plastic & Reconstructive Surgery Unit and believe me, no matter how many operations you have to look 'young', you WILL get old - you will still get health problems, you can have all the botox injections in the world, but your wrinkles WILL come back, your face and skin will sag, you may even get dementia.
I really hope you start to value life more as you age. It's not about looks anymore - all looks fade despite plastic surgery - trust me, I know.
Value the older generation because they can teach us alot - the problem is, we just don't LISTEN.
'Oh, the arrogance of youth!" I think Plato said that - and man; he wasn't wrong.

 

[PennEd]

I think I've told this story before but it does show how the Boomers have made a HUGE mistake in creating the spoiled brat, snowflake millennial generation. (Yes, obviously I know many aren't).

About 20 yrs ago, when my son was around 3 or 4, my mom and I used to take him to a toy store in the mall that allowed you to play with some of the toys without buying them. He was playing with a bunch of dinosaurs when we had to go. He started to throw a fit right there in the store. He needed a couple of good swats on the behind. But even back then I knew society had become so infected with leftist garbage, that you pretty much couldn't discipline your child in public, like had been done for generations before.

So I picked him up crying and carrying on, and we hurried him out the store and home, where he received his couple of swats and straight to bed. I rarely had to deal with that behavior again from him.

Several weeks later, we were entering the mall, when a couple came in with their 5 or 6 yr old daughter. The little girl was throwing such a tantrum it was impossible to not look. My mom and I looked at each other and said "boy is she gonna get it!".

We couldn't have been more wrong. BOTH parents rushed over to the little girl and said "It's ok honey, we're going to go to build- a- bear RIGHT NOW, and you can make whatever bear you want!". My mom and I were stunned. We had just witnessed the creation of a spoiled brat monster millennial.

So when we talk about generations, we speak in generalities. That attitude of rewarding awful behavior, and telling the child THEY are super special, permeated many parents child rearing.

And we are paying dearly for that error committed by Boomer parents.

 

[tasha66]

Yes you were the lucky ones.
Life is way harder for us who came after. And yes we have to deal with all the fallout from your generations overconsumption in general. Being such a big cohort you always got the lions share of everything.
God may still have a purpose for you, the baby boomer generation now entering retirement. But its an awful lot of you for us to support and care for in twilight years. If youve made it thus far, consider yourself blessed. As the previous generation were wiped out with the war.
If shopping online is all you have to worry about then you have it way easy.

Life is definitely not 'way harder' for people not of the baby boom generation. We never went through world wars, we have never lived in a country that has been entirely invaded (though Darwin got bombed), we have wonderful medications, vaccinations, we weren't brought up in countries where we are sold as prized virgins at age 9 - I could go on.
** I'm just watching a show of a girl who got pregnant at age 9, her Mum sent her away, as the Mum was embarrassed in front of the community. The girl got raped at age 10, AND she was 7 months pregnant, THEN she was made to marry the rapist who was a Deacon, of 20 years of age! (in the USA). And nobody reported any of this or rescued her. She thought it was all her fault.** Our life is not hard compared to these poor girls! (who are now women telling their horrendous stories).
And saying that baby boomers are 'an awful lot of you for us to support and care for in your twilight years' is a truly terrible thing to say. My job is health care, but I call it PEOPLE CARE. I care for the homeless; the seriously mentally ill that nobody wants; the smelly, drunk people who get dropped off at Emergency, and the families take off and leave them cos they can't cope; the dementias who defeacate themselves; the dispossessed; the desperately poor; the desperately lonely people who come voluntarily into hospital at Xmas cos nobody wants them, or they have no family. You get the picture. Most of these people are old - they are worn down to the bone by a world that doesn't give a crap about them - they're old and considered useless. We give them a bed, food & comfort, we listen without judgement to their many, many problems & concerns. Our Western society & attitudes re old people, and about so-called standards of 'beauty' has alot to answer for. I love working with the old people, and count myself lucky.
It's an almighty privilege to care for these poor people, and to nurse them before they die from horrid diseases sometimes like Alzheimers, which they have gained through no fault of their own.
I have sat next to a dying man and held his hand till he passed away - he had nobody in this world who cared about him; I've cared for many people just before they have died, & comforted the grieving relatives. I cared for a foreign woman who was in palliative care - only about 35 I think - she was doing well, but when I went back to work on Monday, she had passed away. She left 2 kids - one was 12 I think, the other 9 or so. Not all of these people were old though.
Should they be considered nuisances too?
You have said in previous posts that you have mental health issues, I believe. Should I label you as a 'such & such a generation' and see you as a burden? No - as a professional in mental health, I would always treat you with respect and courtesy - irregardless of your age.
I've also run a Plastic & Reconstructive Surgery Unit and believe me, no matter how many operations you have to look 'young', you WILL get old - you will still get health problems, you can have all the botox injections in the world, but your wrinkles WILL come back, your face and skin will sag, you may even get dementia.
I really hope you start to value life more as you age. It's not about looks anymore - all looks fade despite plastic surgery - trust me, I know.
Value the older generation because they can teach us alot - the problem is, we just don't LISTEN.
'Oh, the arrogance of youth!" I think Plato said that - and man; he wasn't wrong.
I gather you are still young. I really, really hope that you think about what you have said and pray for forgiveness.

 

[morefaithrequired]

Life is not way harder for us (50's + I'm talking about). We never went through world wars, we have never lived in a country that has been entirely invaded (though Darwin got bombed), we have wonderful medications, vaccinations, we weren't brought up in countries where we are sold as prized virgins at age 9 - I could go on.
** I'm just watching a show of a girl who got pregnant at age 9, her Mum sent her off as her Mum was embarrassed in front of the community & she got raped at age 10, AND she was 7 months pregnant, THEN she was made to marry the rapist who was a Deacon who was 20 years old! (in the USA). And nobody reported any of this or rescued her. She thought it was all her fault.**
And saying that baby boomers are 'an awful lot of you for us to support and care for in your twilight years' is a truly terrible thing to say. My job is health care, but I call it PEOPLE CARE. I care for the homeless; the seriously mentally ill that nobody wants; the smelly, drunk people who get dropped off at Emergency, and the families take off and leave them cos they can't cope; the dementias who defeacate themselves; the dispossessed; the desperately poor; the desperately lonely people who come voluntarily into hospital at Xmas cos nobody wants them, or they have no family. You get the picture. Most of these people are old - they are worn down to the bone by a world that doesn't give a crap about them - they're old and considered useless. Our Western society & attitudes re old people, and about so-called standards of 'beauty' has alot to answer for.
It's a privilege to care for these poor people, and to nurse them before they die from horrid diseases sometimes like Alzheimers which they have gained through no fault of their own.
I have sat next to a dying man and held his hand till he passed away - he had nobody in this world who cared about him; I've cared for people just before they have died & comforted the grieving relatives. I cared for a foreign woman who was only about 37 I think - she was doing well, but when I went back to work on Monday, she had passed away. She left 2 kids - one was 12 I think, the other 9 or so. Not all of these people were old.
Should they be considered nuisances too?
You have said in previous posts that you have mental health issues, I believe. Should I label you as a 'such & such a generation' and see you as a burden? No - as a professional in mental health, I would always treat you with respect and courtesy - irregardless of your age.
I gather you are still young. I really, really hope that you think about what you have said and pray for forgiveness.
I've also run a Plastic & Reconstructive Surgery Unit and believe me, no matter how many operations you have to look 'young', you WILL get old - you will still get health problems, you can have all the botox injections in the world, but your wrinkles WILL come back, your face and skin will sag, you may even get dementia.
I really hope you start to value life more as you age. It's not about looks anymore - all looks fade despite plastic surgery - trust me, I know.
Value the older generation because they can teach us alot - the problem is, we just don't LISTEN.
'Oh, the arrogance of youth!" I think Plato said that - and man; he wasn't wrong.

dementia patients are one of the toughest to manage. And personal care is hard as well imo.

 

[morefaithrequired]

what did I say?
are you talkin to me? (deniro in Taxi Driver)
Im old already.

sorry. you can delete this one. didnt realise you were referring to someone else

 

[morefaithrequired]

I will say this. I dont envy young people. Food is getting less organic. This garden of eden is getting less of a garden.
Communication is becoming complex as we have to be so politically correct. Boys and girls encouraged to question their gender Marriage is no longer for just man and women. More people want to escape awful regimes. Im privileged to be a baby boomer. Life was/is damn good!

 

[Ghoti2]

I also get paid to study. And we are getting free lunch when we do our presentations.
Its not enough to buy a house, but I dont want to buy a house as I am already happy with the one Im living in. What are you on about?

If you want to be a millionaire, baiscally you have to gamble. And even if you take risks in business, you might win big, but you also LOSE big.

A steady job is different and there are not much steady jobs for millenials these days. We have to start from ZERO. Hard work is no guarantee because even if you work hard, you often dontget anywhere but stressed out working for someone else.

I wish you could actually hear yourself. He,He. You now almost trip over the thousands of "Now Hiring" signs all over our city.

 

[Miri]

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what did I say?
are you talkin to me? (deniro in Taxi Driver)
Im old already.

I quoted Lanolins post - see above 🙂

 

[Miri]

dementia patients are one of the toughest to manage. And personal care is hard as well imo.

I’m 51 I look after my aunt 84, who has
Stage 4 Copd on oxygen, heart failure, dementia, chronic kidney failure. As well as working part time. We have carers who visit 3 times a day but im the one who is there for her day and night. 7/24

I’ve done it now to this degree 7 years. It’s the hardest thing I have ever done. I have saved her life more times than I can remember but I’m glad she is loving at home and not in a care home. She is a child of God too. 🙂

 

[Ghoti2]

Here's a catchy little song to cheer you up on a Wednesday morning.

 

[Lanolin]

Wow sorry but what you said is very offensive. I count it a great privilege to look after
my aunt in her twilight years. It’s what family do, that’s not a burden. It’s called love!
Remember you will be old one day too.

This is what happens unfotunately with people these days and that is their attitude. i know cos I worked in retirement villages and people felt it was a burden so they sent them away into care. They do get good care but only what money can buy though. Not everyone has a nurse in their family I suppose who can be around all the time.

Even in my family the last days of my grandma who had eight children none off them could look after her when she got really sick and suffered stroke. So she went into a rest home and then hospital and then she died. I think a lot of people are working and cant take time to look after each other. You pretty much have to give up your own job to do this, but then you have no income coming in!

UNLESS you are already a nurse. One of my neighbour stopped working and became a full time caregiver for his mum when she got Parkinsons. He cannot go on holiday ever. Because shes been in that condition for years. She does get home help coming in. I think he had savings or a reverse mortgage or somethign so she can stay at home cos she doesnt want to leave it. He also has to look after his brother who nearly commited suicide last year and ended up in the mental hospital.

When I got sick when I was young my mother had to give up work to keep an eye on me cos I was recovering at home but she could only take a weeks or two off at the most. I was sick for a lot longer than that and it was the kind of sickness that came and went over several years!!!

 

[Lanolin]

My mum is of the boomer generation and she did think that I was a burden when I was sick. She told me about it!!! Also she constantly guilt trips and says I wont look after her when She is old. But hello I am still around and havent left so I dont know what she was talking about. This year she thought she was going to die of cancer but she didnt why because the whole church was praying for her. So God did a miracle right there.

My brothers and sisters say they would just sell the house if my parents had to go into care to pay for it all. They not going to give up their work to look after them. I see lots of people like that because care is really expensive, one of my friends was paying thousands a week for her dad who had demnentia. He did die in the care home, but the care home wasnt very satisfactory because they were understaffed and it seems they didnt turn him properly so he got septicemia from bedsores.

I hate hospitals myself but sadly its about the only place you can go if you havent got anyone looking after you 24/7. I hate the druggy smell and the antiseptics. And people dying and being ill around you. Sometimes nurses can be bullies. But people dont ask to be sick. What they really need is to be at home and lots of prayer. If someone had prayed for me when I was sick I probably wouldn thave had to go into hospital looking back. (For my own illness) . I just needed a place to rest away from the world. School, wasveru stessful at the time. I think the social workers and everyone could see it was mum pressuring me but they couldnt go well she needs to leave home because her mum and expectations is stressing her out.

I think they were confused in that area and even thought I had to have a pyschaitrst. It was awful. Mum really hated me when I was sick! But thank God HE looked after me when my parents couldnt. I suffered for many years.

I think boomers tend to think they will never need help. Its not just my mum that thinks that, i reckon. they dread having someone look after them, but nobody else except for family is really going to do it. Its just they dont actualky want their families looking after them. Mum had said shed rather die than have that happen. So much for my caregfiving skills!! However she doesnt seem to count that im around her every day....praying.

Sorry if this is confusing but my parents are boomers. They had it easy. For offspring of boomers like me, theres this thing of boomers saying we want you, but actually we dont want you.

 

[Lanolin]

People are getting their generations confused. Baby boomers are POST WAR they never went through ww2 they were born straight after thats WHY they are called baby boomers. Ot is the chohort who csme of age during the 60s and 70s. That period when people started getting into drugs they say if you rmember it you werent there. They had a lot of prosperity as teens and disposable income to spend on whatever they liked, and modcons coming out their ears.

 

[PennEd]

People are getting their generations confused. Baby boomers are POST WAR they never went through ww2 they were born straight after thats WHY they are called baby boomers. Ot is the chohort who csme of age during the 60s and 70s. That period when people started getting into drugs they say if you rmember it you werent there. They had a lot of prosperity as teens and disposable income to spend on whatever they liked, and modcons coming out their ears.

Ha! This has got to be a joke right?
THE major difference, EVEN with millennials that don't consider themselves snowflakes, and Boomers, is that Millennials think they should have ALL the good things in life they see boomers having. Perfect high paying job, big house, fancy car etc.. NOW. They have NO concept of starting from the BOTTOM and working your way up. So many of them hold their breath like a kid, pout, and give up. Content, yet discontent with basement life and video games.

They think the beginning menial jobs are beneath them. And why not? They have been told all their lives just how special they are. And if they DO lower themselves and take the menial jobs, they think they should be paid far in excess of what the market says their work is worth.

Boomers understood that multiple, useless degrees in Sociology or political science, wasn't going to be incredibly marketable, and that hard work, STARTING AT THE BOTTOM, of a company, gaining experience, contacts, and work ethic, were WAAAY more valuable commodities.

I am befuddled by this idea that millennials don't have it easier than past generations. Everything from school buses stopping at EVERY house instead of having to walk a bit to a bus stop, to every conceivable modern day convenience and technology.

Just to reiterate. We are talking in generalities. Obviously this doesn't apply to all.

 

[Lanolin]

Ha! This has got to be a joke right?
THE major difference, EVEN with millennials that don't consider themselves snowflakes, and Boomers, is that Millennials think they should have ALL the good things in life they see boomers having. Perfect high paying job, big house, fancy car etc.. NOW. They have NO concept of starting from the BOTTOM and working your way up. So many of them hold their breath like a kid, pout, and give up. Content, yet discontent with basement life and video games.

They think the beginning menial jobs are beneath them. And why not? They have been told all their lives just how special they are. And if they DO lower themselves and take the menial jobs, they think they should be paid far in excess of what the market says their work is worth.

Boomers understood that multiple, useless degrees in Sociology or political science, wasn't going to be incredibly marketable, and that hard work, STARTING AT THE BOTTOM, of a company, gaining experience, contacts, and work ethic, were WAAAY more valuable commodities.

I am befuddled by this idea that millennials don't have it easier than past generations. Everything from school buses stopping at EVERY house instead of having to walk a bit to a bus stop, to every conceivable modern day convenience and technology.

Just to reiterate. We are talking in generalities. Obviously this doesn't apply to all.

I wouldnt say that about some boomer parents because some are immigrants who never had an education past primary and didnt WANT their children to have menial jobs forever because they expect them to have enough to look after them when they are older. And you cant so that without any soet of recognised qualification, that some people choose 'useless' degreees in you eyes isnt here or there its only useless to the person who didnt make any use of it. I do think those parents who never HAD any university education dont actually understand how university works, but they do know it costs a lot to gain it!

And if they cant pay for it, students have NO choice but to go into debt to gain it. Or work a job while studying. Its not FREE, like it was for some boomers! Most boomers didnt take advantage of free tertiary education because employers didnt ask for it. Everyone could just walk straight into a job if they asked for one. Now its NOT POSSIBLE.

 

[Lanolin]

The brand new houses of the 50s and 60s were for the new families who had children who are the baby boomers. Those houses were meant to last more than just the lifetime of the boomers!
If you acrually look after a home, it can be in your family for generation. If you look after your land and own it its yours, you dont sell up ever. Otherwise you lose and your family and subsequent generstions lose. Thats why people are homeless, they have no land.

 

[IFOLLOWHIM]

Here's a catchy little song to cheer you up on a Wednesday morning.

How apropos!
I love this song by Micha

 

[Lanolin]

The boomers say to their chikdren leave home and get your own place. But they dont understand that its not easy for new families to start a new home like they did. The land just isnt there for the taking. And its getting divided up smaller and smaller.

 

[Lanolin]

Basically its the boomer parents kicking out their own children from their own homes, which would be their birthright. Thats selfish IMHO.

They say millenials are entitled, as if its a BAD thing to be an heir to a family fortune or legacy. But does God ever kick out His own children? No! Noone can snatch them out of His hand. Hes a good Father.

 

[IFOLLOWHIM]

Wow I don't know its it immaturity,you are young ,naive,or you just lack openness and understanding!

So your mom is a selfish,uncaring person!
Don't loose the JOY OF LIVING YOUR LIFE bc of her!

Get out there and stop making excuses for yourself!

Learn to live ,laugh and lovebefore you become more embittered at life!