Racism In The Headlines

[Locoponydirtman]

Okay, sure lets have all and every religion enter the courtrooms in our present day society that should be interesting.
You do not see the problems I guess.

That is okay, I live in Canada and I see the problems everyday when all religions are equal in the public sphere.... do not worry it is coming your way to.

We do have people from all religions in our courts. As long as they obey the law what is the problem? That's why we have a constitution. In the Constitution it is guaranteed by the very first amendment in the Bill of Rights. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

 

[UnderGrace]

If you do not believe me then read from the original sources like the founders on their commentary of the first amendment.

No truth is more evident to my mind than that the Christian religion must be the basis of any government intended to secure the rights and privileges of a free people."
-- Noah Webster

I do not have to believe you I am well aware of the intentions of the founding fathers, and I am very sure they were not framing a theocracy, quite the opposite.
Case law and precedence.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

Okay, sure lets have all and every religion enter the courtrooms in our present day society that should be interesting.
You do not see the problems I guess.

That is okay, I live in Canada and I see the problems everyday when all religions are equal in the public sphere.... do not worry it is coming your way to.

Freedom of Religion makes religion equal under the law. Key idea is under the law. So no not all religions are compatible to American law. You can believe Islam but to push Sharia law goes against the law of the land.

Another idea that is often misunderstood.

 

[UnderGrace]

Freedom of Religion makes religion equal under the law. Key idea is under the law. So no not all religions are compatible to American law. You can believe Islam but to push Sharia law goes against the law of the land.

Another idea that is often misunderstood.

I never stated they were.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

I do not have to believe you I am well aware of the intentions of the founding fathers, and I am very sure they were not framing a theocracy, quite the opposite.
Case law and precedence.

I have not advocated for a theocracy nor did they. They just believed that the government shouldn't control religion or force it on others. But nothing against allowing it to support the government by its teachings on morality and divine judgment.

 

[UnderGrace]

I have not advocated for a theocracy nor did they. They just believed that the government shouldn't control religion or force it on others. But nothing against allowing it to support the government by its teachings on morality and divine judgment.

In our private lives for sure, or as a lobby group perhaps
Okay, really my policy is no politics, economics or law discussions on CC and I have broken my rule.... so au revoir!

 

[calibob]

I do not have to believe you I am well aware of the intentions of the founding fathers, and I am very sure they were not framing a theocracy, quite the opposite.
Case law and precedence.

They were deists who didn't believe that the hand of God would manifest it self in the lives of mankind and Freemasons who believed more in worldly enlightenment and were Pantheists. Both sides were not what I would consider Christians. And now that they have taken "...One nation under God" out of the pledge of allegiance. Give way to Gay privileges' and legalized abortion as well as mad evolution mandatory in schools while creation teaching is not allowed the idea that this is a Christian Nation is delusional at best.

BTW Antichristian legislation and laws are already here. I've been in court several times and never have I been asked to swear on a bible. This is not my Fathers America. Double meaning intended.

 

[calibob]

I have not advocated for a theocracy nor did they. They just believed that the government shouldn't control religion or force it on others. But nothing against allowing it to support the government by its teachings on morality and divine judgment.

But if the Government is against religion in Schools why do they allow false religions like evolution and gay is a natural selection or choice to be allowed to be taught to people below the age of consent?

 

[Roughsoul1991]

They were deists who didn't believe that the hand of God would manifest it self in the lives of mankind and Freemasons who believed more in worldly enlightenment and were Pantheists. Both sides were not what I would consider Christians. And now that they have taken "...One nation under God" out of the pledge of allegiance. Give way to Gay privileges' and legalized abortion as well as mad evolution mandatory in schools while creation teaching is not allowed the idea that this is a Christian Nation is delusional at best.

BTW Antichristian legislation and laws are already here. I've been in court several times and never have I been asked to swear on a bible. This is not my Fathers America. Double meaning intended.

I study 4 things. The Bible, US History, US law, and science. A good resource that our congressmen use is one organization called wallbuilders. They hold the largest library of original documents, journals and writings of the Founding Fathers. They often refute your claims about the Founders. And it is easy to do once you read their own words and not the words of modern people.

https://wallbuilders.com/

But yes the country is growing further from its Christian roots.

 

[UnderGrace]

I study 4 things. The Bible, US History, US law, and science. A good resource that our congressmen use is one organization called wallbuilders. They hold the largest library of original documents, journals and writings of the Founding Fathers. They often refute your claims about the Founders. And it is easy to do once you read their own words and not the words of modern people.

https://wallbuilders.com/

But yes the country is growing further from its Christian roots.

Are you trying to argue the founding fathers were Christians?
Just curious?

 

[Roughsoul1991]

But if the Government is against religion in Schools why do they allow false religions like evolution and gay is a natural selection or choice to be allowed to be taught to people below the age of consent?

Because they define religion differently. And technically they by law cannot be against religion in school. Only the employees have certain standards.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

Are you trying to argue the founding fathers were Christians?

Yes many was. How many founders have you studied in great detail based on their original writings?

 

[UnderGrace]

Yes many was. How many founders have you studied in great detail based on their original writings?

Interesting??

Not surprised though

There was a connection with Freemasonry for a few of the Founding Fathers, but the overwhelming majority were not involved with Freemasonry. Furthermore, what Freemasonry has become today with its anti-Biblical teachings and oaths was definitely not what Freemasonry was at the time the few Founders were involved with it. Freemasonry was introduced into America in 1734, and went through major transformative philosophical changes in 1799, 1813, 1825, and especially in the 1840s and 1850s, when it finally became the organization it is and adopted the anti-Biblical teachings and practices that characterize it today – teachings and practices adopted decades after the deaths of the Founding Fathers.
WallBuilders has a book that addresses this issue in depth: The Question of Freemasonry and the Founding Fathers

 

[calibob]

Because they define religion differently. And technically they by law cannot be against religion in school. Only the employees have certain standards.

Then By law creation should be given as much validity as evolution and the Big Bang theory to minors in public schools or ban them all until College.

 

[UnderGrace]

Yes many was. How many founders have you studied in great detail based on their original writings?

Time, depth, detail are only part of the equation and they are meaningless a part from objectivity.

Continue on though.. it is very interesting information

 

[Roughsoul1991]

Interesting??

Not surprised though

There was a connection with Freemasonry for a few of the Founding Fathers, but the overwhelming majority were not involved with Freemasonry. Furthermore, what Freemasonry has become today with its anti-Biblical teachings and oaths was definitely not what Freemasonry was at the time the few Founders were involved with it. Freemasonry was introduced into America in 1734, and went through major transformative philosophical changes in 1799, 1813, 1825, and especially in the 1840s and 1850s, when it finally became the organization it is and adopted the anti-Biblical teachings and practices that characterize it today – teachings and practices adopted decades after the deaths of the Founding Fathers.
WallBuilders has a book that addresses this issue in depth: The Question of Freemasonry and the Founding Fathers

Yes the group became very anti God just like how most of our colleges was once major Christian institutions but now have turned radically against Christianity.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

Then By law creation should be given as much validity as evolution and the Big Bang theory to minors in public schools or ban them all until College.

Yes they should. They should teach every major theory and the evidence for each theory. But parents and citizens must push it. Just as the freedom from religion foundation tries to force schools to end prayer. They always lose in court if Christians just take a stand.

If we dont then they will get their way just as they did when the church failed to stand against it in the early 1900s. We just had the annual take your Bible to school day and they was trying to end that but by law we know they cannot.

 

[calibob]

Yes they should. They should teach every major theory and the evidence for each theory. But parents and citizens must push it. Just as the freedom from religion foundation tries to force schools to end prayer. They always lose in court if Christians just take a stand.

If we dont then they will get their way just as they did when the church failed to stand against it in the early 1900s. We just had the annual take your Bible to school day and they was trying to end that but by law we know they cannot.

This may lead down the rabbit hole but I've been sharing with another member almost every night. We have most certainly noticed how often from Exodus to 1st Samuel how many times God nation has slipped away and turned their backs on God as well as what happened every time. and we believe history will repeat itself again.

 

[Whispered]

In California, killing in self defence is justifiable manslaughter.

In Texas there is the law known as the Castle Doctrine. One can use lethal means to defend their home and property, or as in the case of a man some years ago shortly after the bill passed into law, a neighbor's home and property.

There was no racism in this case. Nor was there in the courtroom as we saw there was a black judge, and the jury had but two white Texas citizens seated, so there was no racial special treatment as pertained to the defendant.
Unfortunately, race baiting is always a thing in cases like this. And sadder still is the new racist pejorative , 'white privilege'. What a tragedy in all the lives destroyed in the pull of a trigger only to inspire deeper divisions between the people who read of what so deeply affects others for the rest of their lives.

God have mercy.

 

[Lightskin]

by what authority do you judge more harshly than those who were victimized by this act themselves?

History speaks for itself, and so will future events. Sadly, Justice is not blind.