Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?

[eternally-gratefull]

Of course all men will sin.

What then is the option?

To focus on Jesus, ask for repentance and seek to walk as He did in obedience?

or

To start making sure one breaks the law every day so they are not considered a nasty self righteous law keeper?


Of course there are a million other ways to look at it, my point is because people will sin does that mean the line between good and evil must be destroyyed? No.

My friend the Spirit of God WRITES the LAW on the HEART and MIND. If one has the Spirit they will love and do the law. I know "but not THAT law" except it is THAT law, God's law. Jesus said nothing would pass from it and it is written it is THAT law written on the heart. Jer 31 and Heb 10.

Here is the line between good and evil

God (righteousness)

the line (the law, also called the barrier which must be broken)

evil

every one of us fall short of the line

your first answer is sort of correct, you focus on jesus, i pray you already repented, if you have not, your in deep trouble to begin with

focus on jesus, not the law

thats my argument

you can not focus on both,

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I never said you said that so right back at you. Rather I gave my lline of reasoning for why God;s Law is not only valid but what law it is. Showing it's validaty was vital for my reason is believeing what I do.

I will explain:

This shows the law is not done away



This shows in the new covenant the law is written on the heart, combine the fact the the word "torah" is used with Jesus saying the law will not pass untill haven and earth do and all is fulfilled:



It begins to become clear that it is not some new law, I just gave 2 stong witnesses to this fact. Here we see John calling them love, and Jesus saying in the pre-end and end times BECAUSE lawlessness love will grow cold. He said this and it is very clear, combine this with many verses that call the law love and read the law without a hardened heart and again it is clear, as in Matt 22:37-40 say love God and neighbor and ALL ofthe commands hang on these.



Here we see the law called liberty in a Psalm and by James, and James goes as far to quote a few laws DIRECTLY from the OT/Torah, and James calles it "the law of liberty"



These are just a few examples, I could post many more. But the main issuse that I believe you agreee with is that we should follow Jesus and His teachings.

Lol

you funny

keep trying to follow the law

i am dine

take your self righteousness and enjoy

me, i will seek to learn seek to love, and seek to follow jesus, and not be so self absorbed i do not even realise how sinful i am, because i am teying to follow a set of rules written to expose my sin and lead me to christ, not to show me how to be righteous, something it can not do,

 

[eternally-gratefull]

What sins does Jesus forgive us for?

that has no bearing on my question

i asked if you were perfect

if you want to follow the law, that is the requirement.

if you are not perfect, you are not following the law, and to say you are, you are doing lying to yourself, because you are not,

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Oh! I get it now! One is allowed only "so much" righteousness in your eyes, and others like you, eh?
But, just as soon as one starts testifying and baring witness to things "born from above?"
This is considered being "Self Righteous", and therefore evil.
Even though it is "given" in love?
It is taken as being "self righteous."
By the way, isn't that what the scribes and pharasees constantly accused Our Lord and Savior as being?
As we read in the Bible, they were measuring Jesus with their "weights and measurements."
Elst, they would not have murdered Him! Right?

One is allowed perfection

you are not there, i am not there, no one in this room is there, we are all in the same boat, whether you like it or not.

thats the problem with lawyers, they think they are more righteous than they are,

 

[lightbearer]

Lol

you funny

keep trying to follow the law

i am dine

take your self righteousness and enjoy

me, i will seek to learn seek to love, and seek to follow jesus, and not be so self absorbed i do not even realise how sinful i am, because i am teying to follow a set of rules written to expose my sin and lead me to christ, not to show me how to be righteous, something it can not do,

So yours IS a salvation by works through your own devices.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Never said any different. Since you have nothing within the context of Matt to refute what was shared; you now wish to move to Galatians?

Maybe here next? "And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them." Gal 3:12

Whose Faith?

The law was about purifying the outward man/flesh
Grace and TRUTH which JESUS brought was about making the spirit pure and this Is GODs workmanship I mean only GOD can make the spirit of justified men perfect.

Galations 2:16
king James Version


Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

 

[Chester]

Well anyone that believes we should abide in Jesus the way He says I consider brother or sister, so hallelujah!


I don't think the law is only for Jews of the OT. In the NT the law is written on the heart;



One all is not completely fulfilled;

Luke 24:44-46, “And He said to them, “These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all have to be fulfilled that were written in the Law, the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me. Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, and said to them, “Thus it has been written, and so it was necessary for the Messiah to suffer and to rise again from the dead the third day.”

Matthew 5:17-18, " 17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

"until heaven and earth pass away." has not yet happened, it happens here;

Revelation 21:1-2, " 1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. 2 And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

"until all is accomplished." all is not yet accomplished/fulfilled;

This and the many many prophecies about Jesus return as the Lion are not yet fulfilled;




I posted a number of verses that I believe show we should, I won't re-post them to save room.

Matt 13:41-43, “The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will gather out of his kingdom all causes of sin and all law-breakers, and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear.”

Revelation 22:14-15, " 14 Blessed [are] they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15 For without [are] dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.



Yes God's law (Mal 4) but mediated by Jesus rather than levites (Heb 7)

I think Jesus maginified the law;

Sorry I only have time to make a few comments, then I am gone for the day - and this week will not allow much time here . . .
I left only the parts above I am commenting on . . .

(1) Amen, I consider anyone a brother who says we need to live the way Jesus said!
(2) You seem to be saying that Jesus magnified the Law and so we are to keep the law - with that I think I can agree - but that is different than keeping the OT law - for example if we live only by the 10 commandments then we "do not Kill - murder" but we can still kill enemies as Israel did. But Jesus said to "love your enemies" and "do good to them that hate you" - I wonder do you believe he meant what he said?
(3) What you show about the Law not being all fulfilled yet makes some sense as you say it

 

[eternally-gratefull]

So yours IS a salvation by works through your own devices.

Nope how do you get that from what i said.

please share, so the world can see how you come up with that nonsense

 

[lightbearer]

Nope how do you get that from what i said.

please share, so the world can see how you come up with that nonsense

Manners maketh man. One of my favorite sayings outside of the holy scripture.
Anyway You said you seek to learn, love and you seek to follow Jesus. And you said you follow a set of rules and which exposes your sin. Funny you would not say laws. Well if you’re seeking and following then you’re doing, therefore you’re working.

I make no self proclamation whatsoever. Other than this, as Paul, It is God that works in us both to will and do his good pleasure. He doeth the work. Not I but Christ.

For it is written, he will put His commandments in our hearts and in his mind will He write them. He also says His words are in our hearts and in our mouths that we may do it. So please tell me again what is it that you do?

 

[FollowtheShepherd]

well since on sin brings about the curse.

and we have all had many sins

guess there is no possibility of obedience concerning the law

you need to get it understood, obedience to god is NOT obedience to the law., you can not fulfill that standard, thats why you needed christ in the first place

I need to get it understood.

Matthew 24:2 And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold.

What about "love fulfills the law" no connection there huh.

Matthew 22:36-40, " 36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” 37 And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 38 This is the great and first commandment. 39 And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40 On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”

Matthew 19:16-19, " 16 And behold, a man came up to him, saying, “Teacher, what good deed must I do to have eternal life?” 17 And he said to him, “Why do you ask me about what is good? There is only one who is good. If you would enter life, keep the commandments.” 18 He said to him, “Which ones?” And Jesus said, “You shall not murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness, 19 Honor your father and mother, and, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

Yes none of use are sinless, I am not sinless, yetobedience to what God's says does not = sinless. For John wrote both of these verses;

1 John 1:8-10, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His Word is not in us."

1 John 5:2-3, " 2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and obey his commandments. 3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome."

You are never going to convince anyone just talking at them telling them what they need to do.

 

[FollowtheShepherd]

Is all obedience "Self righteousness?"

never said that did I.

we are talking About obedience according to the law are we not?

As you will see I never claimed you said that, I was asking that was in the form of a question, and yes about the law.

This was written post death, burial, resurrection, and ascention:

1 John 3:4, "Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law."

I guess NOT sinning has become a bad thing these days.

 

[DeighAnn]

that has no bearing on my question

i asked if you were perfect

if you want to follow the law, that is the requirement.

if you are not perfect, you are not following the law, and to say you are, you are doing lying to yourself, because you are not,

That has bearing on everything. Just as you see me missing "the point", I see in you. I am not burdened with "being perfect" something I, a sinner, can not be. But I can try. And if God died so that I could be forgiven when I mess up, I better keep trying or else what was it all for?

If I am not perfect? God knows I am not perfect. God knows in this flesh I will never be perfect. If I could be perfect He would not have come Himself and died. When I acknowledge to Him MY imperfection before Him, I also acknowledge His perfection. His Holiness, and my accepting of His Sacrifice, and my faith in His forgiveness, and as unworthy as I may be, my worthiness of that forgiveness.

I chose to follow ALL the words of Jesus, my Lord and Saviour. I am not wise enough to decided which words to follow and which words to not. I do not just walk in and with love, but also on the path that the commands given in the Word, keep my feet upon. I need His direction and guidance. I acknowledge my sinful flesh nature that I must crucify daily to be in obedience to Him. I discipline my mind and my heart to be more Christlike in all I do by staying in that Word, and out of the World. I try to, just as Christ did to the Father as he walked, follow the commands. If I do not know and follow His ways, I am just trying to do it my way.

It all comes back to Cain and Abel.

Genesis 4:3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD.
Genesis 4:4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering:
Genesis 4:5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.
Genesis 4:6 And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?
Genesis 4:7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

Cain did it his way. Abel did it Gods way.

So not only do I follow the command to Love God with all my heart and my neighbor as myself, I follow to the best of my ability all the ways that are acceptable to God. I know they are acceptable to God because "it is written". I believe in repentance and forgiveness by the blood of the Lamb. I am not lying to myself and telling myself I am perfect, quite the contrary. But I am showing and telling God that I believe His ways ARE, to me, and I would like to be. I am striving to be "perfect" in a world that will persecute me for that very thing. But that is ok because it is written this is how it would be.

As you know, I believe the "law" as in the law of Moses, was done away and Luke 16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

Hebrews 10:7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
Hebrews 10:8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein which are offered by the law
Hebrews 10:9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
Hebrews 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

I believe that in order to bring in a New Covenant that the first Covenant that was waxing old, decaying and ready to vanish, went away with the blood of Jesus on Cross, so that this period under Grace, the kingdom of God, would reign for all. I believe because the mystery that the kingdom would be offered to "all", meaning the gentiles also, a New Covenant covering "all" had to be put in place. I do not believe God would leave to us "to speculate" on our own what was and was not valid, just as I do not believe He leaves us to speculate on which commands are or are not to be followed in the New Covenant. I am living in the Masters house, I better follow the Masters rules for the House.

So what it comes down to is I believe if I break the law and I repent, that I will be forgiven. As such, I am required to try, yet unburdened by "the perfection" or "fear" of not being perfect in doing so.

 

[FollowtheShepherd]

Here is the line between good and evil

God (righteousness)

the line (the law, also called the barrier which must be broken)

evil

every one of us fall short of the line

your first answer is sort of correct, you focus on jesus, i pray you already repented, if you have not, your in deep trouble to begin with

focus on jesus, not the law

thats my argument

you can not focus on both,

First I find it funny, so I'm supppoed to repent of seeking to follow God's righteous standard? That is comical.

Isaiah 8:20, "To the Law and to the Testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them."
(see Rev 14:12 below - Law and to the Testimony )

One can't focus on Jesus and reject the law.

Matthew 5:17-20, " 17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

A focus on Jesus is in part learning His words and how He walked. He was the perfect exacmple.

John 13:15, “For I (Jesus) gave you an example, that you should do as I have done to you.”

You see His people keep His law and have faith in Him;

Revelation 14:12-13, " 12 Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus. 13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying, “Write this: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.” “Blessed indeed,” says the Spirit, “that they may rest from their labors, for their deeds follow them!”

 

[FollowtheShepherd]

Lol

you funny

keep trying to follow the law

i am dine

take your self righteousness and enjoy

me, i will seek to learn seek to love, and seek to follow jesus, and not be so self absorbed i do not even realise how sinful i am, because i am teying to follow a set of rules written to expose my sin and lead me to christ, not to show me how to be righteous, something it can not do,

So what was self righteous about anything I have said? Also funny how you posted this as your last reply to me:

Is all obedience "Self righteousness?"

never said that did I.

we are talking About obedience according to the law are we not?

take your self righteousness and enjoy

Well now you have.

and His law is love;

Exodus 20:6, “But showing love to thousands who love Me by keeping My Laws.”

John 14:15, “If you love Me, keep My commandments.”

John 15:12 “This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.

1 John 5:2-3, " 2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and obey his commandments. 3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome.

Matthew 22:37-40, " 37 And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 38 This is the great and first commandment. 39 And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40 On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”

Matthew 7:12-14, " 12 “So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets. 13 “Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. 14 For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.

but you have called a desire to follow His law self-righteousness? Odd.

Rev 12: 17 Then the dragon became furious with the woman and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on
those who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus. And he stood on the sand of the sea.

Isaiah 8:20, "To the Law and to the Testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them."

 

[NayborBear]

Lol

you funny

keep trying to follow the law

i am dine

take your self righteousness and enjoy

me, i will seek to learn seek to love, and seek to follow jesus, and not be so self absorbed i do not even realise how sinful i am, because i am teying to follow a set of rules written to expose my sin and lead me to christ, not to show me how to be righteous, something it can not do,

With the "correct guidance" it not only can. It shall!
But, yer not gonna get it from "man." Nor "precepts" of men!
Isaiah 28
9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
By doing this:
1 Peter 2
5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

And a whole LOTTA this:
1 John 4
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

But how? Ya stab and slash it with the sword of the Spirit, ya got inside yer coconut! It's there!
Ask God How to use it! He'll teach you!
Man, and precepts of man, won't!

 

[FollowtheShepherd]

Sorry I only have time to make a few comments, then I am gone for the day - and this week will not allow much time here . . .
I left only the parts above I am commenting on . . .

(1) Amen, I consider anyone a brother who says we need to live the way Jesus said!
(2) You seem to be saying that Jesus magnified the Law and so we are to keep the law - with that I think I can agree - but that is different than keeping the OT law - for example if we live only by the 10 commandments then we "do not Kill - murder" but we can still kill enemies as Israel did. But Jesus said to "love your enemies" and "do good to them that hate you" - I wonder do you believe he meant what he said?
(3) What you show about the Law not being all fulfilled yet makes some sense as you say it

1 Psalms 117:1-2, " 1 Praise the LORD, all nations! Extol him, all peoples! 2 For great is his steadfast love toward us, and the faithfulness of the LORD endures forever. Praise the LORD!

2 No I think all the law, but as I explained before mediated by Jesus and the example is what Jesus said and did. He is our example.

3 Yes to me from reading the word there is not other way, there are more supporting verses also, but nearly the whole world teaches differently and it's a tough battle. Reminds me of Rev 12:17 battle.

Have a great week hallelujah!

 

[SimpleGardner]

The law was about purifying the outward man/flesh
Grace and TRUTH which JESUS brought was about making the spirit pure and this Is GODs workmanship I mean only GOD can make the spirit of justified men perfect.

Galations 2:16
king James Version


Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Greetings seed_time_harvest,

Your first sentence is quite agreeable....I think though I would change the "spirit of justified men perfect" to "heart of justified men perfect"

Also agreeable is your statement; "Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ".

I don't know if it is semantics or not, but when justification is given there is then ahead of us all; "the walk" or "the race" as Paul said.

It is not justification most "law minded " believers seek, rather it is the "new heart: promised in the verses below;

Jer 31:33 KJV
(33) But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Jer 32:40 KJV
(40) And I will make an everlasting covenant with them, that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; but I will put my fear in their hearts, that they shall not depart from me.

Heb 10:14-16 KJV
(14) For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
(15) Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
(16) This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;


So, as it is said in Hebrews above the Sanctification/perfection process that occurs when a man receives both the fear of God and the Laws upon his heart he eventually meets the "Perfecting of the saints" referred to in;

2Co 7:1 KJV
(1) Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.


The perfecting holiness occurs when as Paul said we actively cleanse ourselves from all "lawlessness" as "filthiness " is a direct reference to "immorality".

This choice to act is what Our Heavenly Father desires of His children. Just lake any earthly father desires his children to choose right ways so does our Heavenly Father.

All this is perplexing to everyone it seems...to us who have received the fear of God and a love for His Laws upon our hearts as promised, and to you who have arrived at the doctrinal position that that is not correct.

It is disunity to say the least.

SG

 

[NayborBear]

Sorry I only have time to make a few comments, then I am gone for the day - and this week will not allow much time here . . .
I left only the parts above I am commenting on . . .

(1) Amen, I consider anyone a brother who says we need to live the way Jesus said!
(2) You seem to be saying that Jesus magnified the Law and so we are to keep the law - with that I think I can agree - but that is different than keeping the OT law - for example if we live only by the 10 commandments then we "do not Kill - murder" but we can still kill enemies as Israel did. But Jesus said to "love your enemies" and "do good to them that hate you" - I wonder do you believe he meant what he said?
(3) What you show about the Law not being all fulfilled yet makes some sense as you say it

I believe Jesus was talking about "flesh enemies."
Paul is talking about "Spiritual enemies", that "manifest" themselves in flesh "actions."
2 Corinthians 10
3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:
5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

Ephesians 6
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

 

[DeighAnn]

Luke 24:44-46, “And He said to them, “These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all have to be fulfilled that were written in the Law, the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me. Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, and said to them, “Thus it has been written, and so it was necessary for the Messiah to suffer and to rise again from the dead the third day.”

Matthew 5:17-18, " 17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

"until heaven and earth pass away." has not yet happened, it happens here;

For truly I say to you, Till heaven and earth pass, one stroke or one pronunciation mark shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Though I believe the old covenant has "been replaced" by the new one, I do NOT think that any of the wisdom or knowledge or moral obligations of it have changed. I just believe it no longer "stands" as it once did as the ruling force of the nation, and as the gentiles have been included, a new covenant had to be brought in. We know the sacrifices and the ceremonies and the priests duties are no longer "followed" with the life and death and rising of Jesus. Jesus became our Passover and our rest. Christians are scattered all over the world each country having their own governments and civil courts, land deeds etc. So I do not believe it has passed, it is just no longer "the law" we are "under". We have a new and better one that does what the old one could not. We are under grace, repentance and forgiveness, unburdened from carrying around our sins, or going through any rituals or people to them.

 

[DeighAnn]

You can take comfort that the Law of Moses was never given to Gentiles, so it is silly for us who become Christians, to teach Gentiles to follow the Law of Moses.

Rather, we should follow instructions from our apostle, Paul, who gave us the only relevant Commission for us to follow, 2 Cor 5

17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Notice Paul never instructed us to teach others to obey the law?

But Jesus did teach us to teach them. Very specifically. Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. If you do not teach "the law" where else are you to gain and teach the wisdom and knowledge and moral applications contained within them? Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. No the gentiles are not "under" the law, but they are "under God" and to teach that any of His Word is to be "excluded" would be unwise.

If you love someone with all your heart and mind and soul and they wrote you a letter, wouldn't ever word of it be important to you? If you were the one who wrote the letter, all of it being very valuable, wouldn't you be a little concerned if when you finally saw that person and you asked what they thought if they said, I didn't really care about that part, it didn't seem to apply to me and my situation? I don't know, we are all different but I wouldn't teach that way.