Not By Works

[Macabeus]

I am going to have to leave this thread because you have a way that I really have no idea how to deal with you.

You can deal with me by not making claims that you can’t back up. You people make way too many careless accusations.

I know you said it, but I don’t know where because I haven’t read all the posts.

All you have to do is type in “must beast fruit” and my name in the search bar to see if what you believed that you were told about me was true or not

 

[VCO]

My brains a little tired, however, lest anyone fall into the deception of Lordship Salvation...... I quote John Rice I think he states it properly....

Lordship Salvation is a lie.

A changed life is the FRUIT of genuine repentance; and not a part of the ROOT of saving faith.
We give up our sins because we ARE saved; not to GET saved. Biblical salvation requires that a person simply acknowledge their guilt of sin before God (Romans 3:19) and believe on Jesus as the Christ, the Son of God, to be forgiven. Acts 10:43, “To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.”

That is Biblical salvation.

No, it is the THE TRUTH, but You seem to have a different Definition for what you call Lordship Salvation. Please EXPLAIN your definition of the term LORDSHIP Salvation?

All I mean by that TERM, is any one who comes to HIM must RECEIVE HIM AS LORD, before Salvation Takes place.

Romans 10:8-10 (NASB)
8 But what does it say? "THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART"—that is, the word of faith which we are preaching,
9 that if you confess [.If you have not received HIM as LORD in your Heart, it is only a PROFESSION, not a Confession.] with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.


That verse summarizes the ONLY THING that I mean by Lordship Salvation. Yes I know some people have a distorted belief what Lordship Salvation means. The Confession comes after the you have willingly out of LOVE surrendered to Him as your Master, resulting in salvation. Some believe we are telling them they HAVE TO OBEY, which is works Righteousness. We believe the CHANGE in your human spirit will cause you to WANT to show your LOVE FOR HIM by your Obedience. THAT IS ALL WE TEACH.

 

[Macabeus]

Hahahahaahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahaahhahahhahahaha that was funny.....hahahaha that was hilarious and as my Aussie friends say.....SPOT ON!

If he took a drink every time you employed a strawman, he have would died of alcohol poisoning.

If he took a drink for every time you failed to comprehend a post, it would be enough for ALL OF US to die of alcohol poisoning

Hair of the dog that bit you Melach

 

[Macabeus]

Hahahahaahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahaahhahahhahahaha that was funny.....hahahaha that was hilarious and as my Aussie friends say.....SPOT ON!

Oh I forgot to say...

Hi DC. About that accusation you made where you confused attacking a person’s argument with attacking a person. Have you fixed your glasses yet?

It’s hard to be objective when your reading glasses are defective, eh DC?

A little modification of a five iron frenzy song. If you know the song, what they actually say is what I mean.

 

[Macabeus]

Hahahahaahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahaahhahahhahahaha that was funny.....hahahaha that was hilarious and as my Aussie friends say.....SPOT ON!

Ούτοι δε όσα μεν Ουχ Οιδασιν βλασφημουσιν οσα...

My Greek font didn’t accent correctly, but you can still read it

 

[Macabeus]

Ούτοι δε όσα μεν Ουχ Οιδασιν βλασφημουσιν οσα...

My Greek font didn’t accent correctly, but you can still read it

Disregard the last όσα.

 

[blue_ladybug]

You can deal with me by not making claims that you can’t back up. You people make way too many careless accusations.

I know you said it, but I don’t know where because I haven’t read all the posts.

All you have to do is type in “must beast fruit” and my name in the search bar to see if what you believed that you were told about me was true or not

I highly doubt that if ANYONE typed in "must BEAST fruit", they wouldn't be able to find your post.. LOL

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I am going to have to leave this thread because you have a way that I really have no idea how to deal with you.

Thats why you do not see me much anymore,, i love this thread, but daily all we have is everyone responding to him, it makes it so even though i can no longer see his stuff, i still have to deal with it

just not worth it, he appears to be empowered when people five him the audience he desires

 

[Lightskin]

I pack every where haha

Definitely. We don’t have to fear evil but we need to respect it by countering it with love as well as superior force.

 

[Melach]

I am going to have to leave this thread because you have a way that I really have no idea how to deal with you.

am i the only here who love macabeus? return of the macmachine. he believes in eternal security too.

 

[Macabeus]

Thats why you do not see me much anymore,, i love this thread, but daily all we have is everyone responding to him, it makes it so even though i can no longer see his stuff, i still have to deal with it

just not worth it, he appears to be empowered when people five him the audience he desires

Nope. Not at all accurate. I post stuff about the Bible, but every time I start talking to someone, DC, GB9, Lightskin or someone else interrupts by slandering me or accusing me of saying things I didnt say. That is what your brand of Christianity does, I suppose.

Like DC accusing me of calling GB9 insane when I merely attacked his argument, GB9 misquoting me every time he addresses me, Undergrace just misquoted me as saying something I didn’t say, Lightskin calling me Norman, etc.

I have only one thing left to say...I THOUGHT THIS WAS A CHRISTIAN WEBSITE.

 

[Macabeus]

DC, Lightskin, and others continue to break the rules (name calling, insults, etc) with the enabling and support of almost everyone on This thread

Now that that is stated, there’s nothing left to say but “Sorry. I thought this was a Christian website “

Atheists are more respectful and honest ( they do not deliberately misrepresent my statements AS MUCH as people here do) when I discuss my faith with them online than most of you people are

It’s sad, it really is when atheists behave better than Christians.

I know this is a bannable post, but thats something I am thankful for. I’ll leave this festival of slander now

 

[TooFastTurtle]

DC, Lightskin, and others continue to break the rules with the enabling and support of almost everyone on This thread

Now that that is stated, there’s nothing left to say but “Sorry. I thought this was a Christian website “

Atheists are more respectful and honest when I discuss my faith with them online than most of you people are

It’s sad, it really is when atheists behave better than Christians.

It is because you are engaging a group of people who are in an echo chamber. You are correct in your estimation but remember: This is the fruits of their belief system. That is what it produces.

 

[Guojing]

DC, Lightskin, and others continue to break the rules with the enabling and support of almost everyone on This thread

Now that that is stated, there’s nothing left to say but “Sorry. I thought this was a Christian website “

Atheists are more respectful and honest when I discuss my faith with them online than most of you people are

It’s sad, it really is when atheists behave better than Christians.

I’ll leave this festival of lies now

This thread has largely become an echo chamber and I am fascinated that you are willing to come in to disagree with their view.

 

[Macabeus]

This thread has largely become an echo chamber and I am fascinated that you are willing to come in to disagree with their view.

Exactly the word I used before. The funny thing is, I was agreeing with them on all the points except a couple very minor ones (like it doesn’t necessarily take a period of growth and maturity to bear fruit, we can bear fruit in many ways), but the disagreements were not so much over doctrine. I know how to disagree agreeably on doctrine. The disagreements, the issues I had with people were their abusiveness, misrepresentations, slander, name calling, and misquoting other people to create strawmen

Notice how much that happens here?

 

[Macabeus]

It is because you are engaging a group of people who are in an echo chamber. You are correct in your estimation but remember: This is the fruits of their belief system. That is what it produces.

This post is a winner. I will take Jesus advise on this. I was just hoping I could open some eyes to the abuses so people could get out of this cult like mindset

Not speaking of Grace by faith alone. I believe that. I’m talking about the type of people that present their views in the manner some of these do

 

[Lightskin]

Thats why you do not see me much anymore,, i love this thread, but daily all we have is everyone responding to him, it makes it so even though i can no longer see his stuff, i still have to deal with it

just not worth it, he appears to be empowered when people five him the audience he desires

He ignored me for two days and I felt as free as Adam and Eve walking naked in the Garden prior to the fall.

 

[Macabeus]

He ignored me for two days and I felt as free as Adam and Eve walking naked in the Garden prior to the fall.

Yep. Free to commit the sin of calling names. Liberty to demean people?. You love that freedom, huh?

Your definition of Christian liberty is rotten and putrid.

I can type any rotten thing I want because I’m under the grace of God. Theology according to Lightskin

Jude 4

 

[Macabeus]

He ignored me for two days and I felt as free as Adam and Eve walking naked in the Garden prior to the fall.

Interpretation. It’s liberating to not be called out or to hear my friends called out for their bad behaviour, practiced in the name of abused grace and enabled by anonymity

 

[Macabeus]

Everyone knows I’m not your typical chaplain. I’m more like Clint Eastwood in Pale Rider. Yeah, I’m that cool.

The question is... are the comments you made to me a fit way for a chaplain to conduct himself?

If we were in the presence of your congregation, would you insultingly call anyone Norman?

If not, you’re being hypocritical