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UnderGrace said:
Who are the 70?
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They were the 70 Rabbis who translated the Old Testament into the Greek Language, shortly before the time of CHRIST. Not sure what year that was, it says around the 2nd century BCE, and the completed O.T. is known as the Septuagint.
 
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UnderGrace said:
I am soothing my head at the moment I was busy banging it against a hard wall!!
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I was talking about DC quoting me. Not the post where I talked about abiding to you, DC said I said something about “as long as we abide” probably thinks I said something heretical again, and I wanted to know what he was talking about

Something related to a discussion I had with GB9
 
BillG said:
Seriously are you serious?

The sin the Holy Spirit will convict us, the world of the sin of unbelief in him.
Not the inward condition of our sins.
You are in the world, one of many billions of people born after Jesus resurrection.

Notice the difference between sin and sins.

John 16:9
9 The world’s sin is that it refuses to believe in me.

It's their convict of the sin of unbelief in him.
Nowhere does JESUS say to convict of the inward condition of sinfulness.

Jesus convicted Paul of his sin of unbelief in him.

When a person repents of the sin of unbelief they also repent of sins.
Carnal sins and non carnal sins.
Then the Holy Spirit works in us to conform us to the image of Jesus.
When we sin we confess.

But given the verses we are talking about there is nothing to support or suggest that it's an inward condition of sinfulness.
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So Bill I answered your question...when are you going to answer mine

Why did Paul speak of self control to Felix if all Felix needed to repent of was unbelief?

How do you define the word sin in 1John 1:8?

What is the purpose of the Law in Romans 3:20?

What is Gods wrath revealed from heaven against in Romans 1:17 and forward?

Thanks in advance.

For the cronies who will say “ why you focusing on sin?” (Eternally grateful), Bill asked me what the Holy Spirit convicts of.
 
gb9 said:
regeneration is not what your phony lordship junk teaches. saved by grace, proved by works.

trash.

yes, I personally believe in regeneration, but you push INSTANT regeneration, that is a big fat lie.


it looks different for everyone. some folks are instantly regenerated , some it takes times for the Fruits of the Sprit to began to manifest.

all are saved the instant they believe, and stay so as long as they believe.

regeneration is a separate conversation.
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Here is the post I corrected, @dcontroversal. He said the premise of instant regeneration was a big fat lie

Since you said I corrected nothing, I assume that you have to wait years and years after you believe to be regenerated, since GB9 wrongly equated it to bearing fruit, and you said it takes a period of growth and maturity to bear fruit

So it takes a period of growth and maturity to be regenerated? 😂😂😂
 
dcontroversal said:
hahahahahahahahhaahhaahahahahhaahhaahhaahahaahhahahahaahhahahaahhahahhahahah now that is hilarious.....wow!
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Yep I corrected his statement that instant regeneration is a big fat lie.

I guess since I corrected nothing, you don’t believe regeneration was instant upon faith

GB9 even admitted afterwards that it was instant. You’re the only person I’ve ever known who does not believe regeneration is instant

I know, I know. You don’t say that. My POINT IS YOU DONT READ POSTS WITH COMPREHENSION BECAUSE YOURE TOO BUSY FLYING OFF THE HANDLE

Caps for emphasis, not yelling

Self control, man! 😉
 
dcontroversal said:
You just violated the warning @Oncefallen gave and called a man insane......
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False, false, FALSE, FALSE, FALSE!!!

READING COMPREHENSION, USE IT!!

I did not call him insane, I called his arguments insane!!

You just keep proving again and again that the disconnect is not with me, it’s in the fact that you are too busy flying off the handle to read posts with comprehension!!

Slow down. Exercise self control and read the posts before you reply!

There you go Lightskin. Lack of basic comprehension due to not reading like the one DC just demonstrated is why people don’t understand my posts
 
Macabeus said:
False, false, FALSE, FALSE, FALSE!!!

READING COMPREHENSION, USE IT!!

I did not call him insane, I called his arguments insane!!

You just keep proving again and again that the disconnect is not with me, it’s in the fact that you are too busy flying off the handle to read posts with comprehension!!

Slow down. Exercise self control and read the posts before you reply!

There you go Lightskin. Lack of basic comprehension due to not reading like the one DC just demonstrated is why people don’t understand my posts
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Well it would seem to me that only an "insane" person would be able to put forth and insane argument unless they were just joking around of course

Why...... because typically we use the word insane to describe people and their state of mind.

So really not a good choice of words on your part.
 
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dcontroversal said:
You just violated the warning @Oncefallen gave and called a man insane......
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I just sent a message to the mods explaining that I did not call GB9 insane, I called his strawman arguments insane. In other words, attacked his bad arguments not his person.

Nice try, DC. This is an example that shows that it is your, and the people who liked this ridiculous post that lack the discipline to read with comprehension. Not because you’re stupid, you are very smart. But a wise man listens, or in this case reads, before he replies

This post puts you in the hall of shame
 
UnderGrace said:
Well it would seem to me that only an "insane" person would be able to put forth and insane argument unless they were just joking around of course

Why...... because typically we use the word insane to describe people and their state of mind.

So really not a good choice of words on your part.
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Nice try. Saying an argument is insane is not the same as calling a person insane

What I see in you is the inability to be objective when it comes to your clique. It’s really sad

So if the mods ban me for attacking a bad argument, ok. Worse things have happened

Plus I suggest you look up the various definitions of insane in dictionary

No objectivity with you at all
 
dcontroversal said:
You just violated the warning @Oncefallen gave and called a man insane......
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Also @UnderGrace

I did not call him insane, I called his argument insane. And just because Undergrace doesn’t know or isn’t objective enough to know that in the US where I live, insane often means shocking or outrageous. 🤔

You guys keep falling flat on your face with your accusations

And if I get banned for attacking a bad argument, oh well.
 
Macabeus said:
If the Bible says

Whosoever does or is such and such

will be or do such and such,

is it possible that any of the whosoevers can be excluded from that reality?

Yes or no?
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Are you speaking of the verses such as John 3:16 and Romans 10:13 and any other verse that has the word whosoever? If I am understanding right are you asking that when the bible says whosoever shall..., is it possible that there are exceptions to the rule? For instance using Romans 10:13 where "whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved", are you asking if one could have called on the name of the Lord but not be saved?
 
Macabeus said:
Nice try. Saying an argument is insane is not the same as calling a person insane

What I see in you is the inability to be objective.
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I am actually a very objective person and quite rational too.

As well I am pretty good with words

"insane" is a word about the state of someone's mind

Even if we state "insanely jealous" we are making a statement about the person's state of mind.

If we stated the argument was sane.. again it would be reflected on the person state of mind as being sane.
 
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Macabeus said:
Also @UnderGrace

I did not call him insane, I called his argument insane. And just because Undergrace doesn’t know or isn’t objective enough to know that in the US where I live, insane often means shocking or outrageous. 🤔

You guys keep falling flat on your face with your accusations

And if I get banned for attacking a bad argument, oh well.
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I am not accusing I am just pointing out the connection, I think it is a valid connection.
 
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UnderGrace said:
I am actually a very objective person and quite rational too.

As well I am pretty good with words

"insane" is a word about the state of someone's mind

Even if we state "insanely jealous" we are making a statement about the person's state of mind.

If we stated the argument was sane.. again it would be reflected on the person state of mind as being sane.
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Look up insane in a dictionary. It has more than one meaning.

Do you live outside the US?

Because in the US, insane often means shocking or outrageous.

Like your claim right now.

You guys are SOOOO desperate. 😂

Anyone who does not see through what you’re doing lacks objectivity too

I think that’s pretty much what’s missing in this place
 
UnderGrace said:
I am not accusing I am just pointing out the connection, I think it is a valid connection.
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Invalid connection when you know the plural definitions of the word insane.

You must not live in the US. Insane is used just as much in a sense of being outrageous or shocking

In southern California, they even surf insane waves

Water is not mentally ill.
 
Macabeus said:
Look up insane in a dictionary. It has more than one meaning.

Do you live outside the US?

Because in the US, insane often means shocking or outrageous.

Like your claim right now.

You guys are SOOOO desperate. 😂

Anyone who does not see through what you’re doing lacks objectivity too

I think that’s pretty much what’s missing in this place
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I feel my headache coming back.

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