Not By Works

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Macabeus

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Macabeus said:
He called me and I answered. Then He came and saved me. By Grace.
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Jesus is the one with the rope of love. He calls us, He seeks us, He saves us, He came to us, He suffered in our place and one day He will take us up into Glory.
 
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Macabeus

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Read this post then check what he was replying to @UnderGrace

dcontroversal said:
Take it up with GOD.....your faith PLUS MUST HAVE blather is contrary to scripture and exactly why you peddle error........even though you portray yourself as a teacher of truth......the following ONE verse alone proves your dogma false.....and you obviously cannot read or fail to understand the bolded in the following verse.....or maybe your religion does not allow you to entertain the truth............probably all three in your particular case.........

But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness
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Macabeus

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Check and see what this post is in reply to @UnderGrace

dcontroversal said:
See there ya go.....proof you are a deceiver that embellishes faith with works for salvation...........not what I asked pal....you are such a fraud..the bible answers and you reject it

But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness
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Macabeus

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Here’s the clincher. Check out this post and what he is replying to.

(Note. DC is the one who made up the 50 years saved idle man, not me

dcontroversal said:
The above proves that you do not believe a faith only based salvation......and you still have not answered the question....a deceiver that blends faith plus works...

Yes or no.....a man that has faith but DOES NOT WORK saved or not?

But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness
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Macabeus

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Macabeus said:
Here’s the clincher. Check out this post and what he is replying to.

(Note. DC is the one who made up the 50 years saved idle man, not me
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Do you want more, Under grace. If you do, I can provide ma’am Tommorow. I can throw in GB9’s INSANE strawmen too. He’s a riot.

I think I have some from you too if I recall correctly. I think I can produce a dozen or more altogether

In fact, 80 percent of the time you people accused me of works salvation
 
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Macabeus

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Look and see what I said that got DC so riled up here.

dcontroversal said:
You just contradicted yourself and did not answer.........

YES the man is saved regardless of doing any works <-----that is an answer......the above reeks of deception and shows you cannot answer the question.......

Which is it....saved without ANY WORKS or SAVED but must have works........simple question....we are all waiting in suspense.......

See if you can come clean about what you really believe.....SAVED = must have faith and WORKS..........you stated as much above
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gb9 said:
works and salvation do not belong in the same sentence. one has nothing to do with the other. you should stop pushing this lie.
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Check out the post GB9 is replying to here

Just click the link on these and see what I said then look at their responses. WOW!!
 
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Macabeus said:
Do you want more, Under grace. If you do, I can provide ma’am Tommorow. I can throw in GB9’s INSANE strawmen too. He’s a riot.

I think I have some from you too if I recall correctly. I think I can produce a dozen or more altogether

In fact, 80 percent of the time you people accused me of works salvation
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Knock yourself out if it means that much to you.... but it will only be in your skewed perception.
 
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Macabeus

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gb9 said:
you went back over 8,000 posts??

oh, wait, it's you, of course you did....
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She said something NEVER happened. I’m showing it did. I have to show I’m not lying. If she keeps insisting I’m lying, I’ll keep popping them up. Don’t worry. I’m working forward and there’s probably hundreds of them
 
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Macabeus

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UnderGrace said:
Knock yourself out if it means that much to you.... but it will only be in your skewed perception.
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The links and what they’re replying to are clear. If you even mention obedience, fruit, etc you are branded a work salvationist. At least that’s my experience

Get your head out of the sand
 
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Macabeus said:
She said something NEVER happened. I’m showing it did. I have to show I’m not lying. If she keeps insisting I’m lying, I’ll keep popping them up. Don’t worry. I’m working forward and there’s probably hundreds of them
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In all honesty you really need to let it go.
 
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Macabeus said:
The links and what they’re replying to are clear. If you even mention obedience, fruit, etc you are branded a work salvationist. At least that’s my experience

Get your head out of the sand
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Only when its tied to a necessity of/for salvation...which is what you believe correct?
 
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Macabeus

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UnderGrace said:
In all honesty you really need to let it go.
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If you wouldn’t have said “never happened” I wouldn’t have put up those links. Your fault.

I will let it go, just know that I put the posts where DC did exactly what I said he did

If no one replies to me further I will let it go. Otherwise I will keep going
 
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Macabeus said:
If you wouldn’t have said “never happened” I wouldn’t have put up those links. Your fault.

I will let it go, just know that I put the posts where DC did exactly what I said he did

If no one replies to me further I will let it go. Otherwise I will keep going
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How about you clean up your signature completely, it is quite ridiculous...
 
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gb9 said:
again, regeneration, instant, yes. evidence of that, instantly, no.
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here I am, saying that regeneration is instant.

just to show that I did agree with someone in principle, but not word for word.

and, legalists will not accept anything but a word for word agreement.

that is why things can't be let go off by them...
 
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UnderGrace said:
Only when its tied to a necessity of/for salvation...which is what you believe correct?
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Nope. Can you produce a post where I said that.

I do agree with what eternally grateful said though. Remember the quote that I had for my sig for a while.

When EG says things like that, you all high five him. When I say things like that, I'm a works salvationist

What was it that he said? Oh yeah, EG said "it is impossible for a Christian not to work, it is part of his new nature."

DC thumbs upped that one. But when I say the same thing, I get castigated.

I guess you all have your double standards. If that's what you like, OK.
 
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