Why does cc allow hyper pauline heretics a platform????
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Did you see this post I just made? (Post #100 of this thread) :
https://christianchat.com/threads/w...uline-heretics-a-platform.187500/post-4034401
https://christianchat.com/threads/w...uline-heretics-a-platform.187500/post-4034401
1 Peter 1:13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
Ephesians 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:
Its amazing what you start finding out when you work out your Salvation with fear and trembling.
Have you done that? Figured out what you have received with Salvation.
If not we're just going to quarrel about Greek punctuation. Which I know nothing about. Almost nothing...
Ephesians 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:
Its amazing what you start finding out when you work out your Salvation with fear and trembling.
Have you done that? Figured out what you have received with Salvation.
If not we're just going to quarrel about Greek punctuation. Which I know nothing about. Almost nothing...
I think its a MAJOR mistake to wait until the next age to Believe in Christ and what He has done for us.
I know. Replacement theology....
I know. Replacement theology....
I don`t blame you though, I wouldn`t want to admit that I think God is a promise breaker either.
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It's almost as if you are reading over and past what points I am actually making. Because you have not addressed that, at all, but are making an entirely different point from what I have been saying.
That's why I brought it up.
The grace that is to be brought to you at the revealing of Christ IS SALVATION.
The Revelation of Christ is the understanding or FAITH that you are Saved, NOW.
And like I already said if you don't really understand Salvation and what you have Received I don't think we are going to understand each other.
Reminds me of the 3 stages of how truth is acknowledged
The process of acknowledging a truth is broken down into three stages:
The process of acknowledging a truth is broken down into three stages:
- The first stage is ridicule. When a new idea or concept is brought up, it’s so strange that it’s completely absurd. People cannot fathom this idea and how it fits into their lives, so they simply laugh at how impossible it seems.
- The second stage is opposition. After a new concept hasn’t made it past the first stage, people begin to worry that it’s here to stay. A few might support the concept, but most will resist because they see it as a threat to everything they’re familiar with.
- The third stage is self-evident. There is increasing evidence that supports the idea, which goes from having a few early supporters to entering the mainstream. A majority of people support the fact and come to accept it as a given.
The bold ^ is what I addressed in Post #100.
Did you read that post? https://christianchat.com/threads/w...uline-heretics-a-platform.187500/post-4034401
No "definite article ['THE']" in that verse, and that verse is saying "BEING brought [PRESENT participle] to you"
(not the "in THE revelation of" thing/point in time... which distinction [between THESE ONLY] is what I am pointing out)
All I'm saying is, look at the verses where the definite article ("THE") IS being used (with the word "revelation"), and where it is NOT being used... then tell us if you see anything about that...
Did you read that post? https://christianchat.com/threads/w...uline-heretics-a-platform.187500/post-4034401
No "definite article ['THE']" in that verse, and that verse is saying "BEING brought [PRESENT participle] to you"
(not the "in THE revelation of" thing/point in time... which distinction [between THESE ONLY] is what I am pointing out)
All I'm saying is, look at the verses where the definite article ("THE") IS being used (with the word "revelation"), and where it is NOT being used... then tell us if you see anything about that...
Gospel simply means good news.
All these are scriptural, and many people are realizing this for the very first time, so naturally, they will need time to understand and accept.
- What was the good news preached to Abraham? He would be a father of many, his descendants will possess a physical land, among other blessings.
- What was the good news preached by Jesus and the 12 during Matt-John to the Jews? That their promised King and Messiah is here. That if all of them are willing to repent from rejecting God in the past and accept Jesus as the Son of God, he will rule over them with justice and righteousness (Jeremiah 23:5-6).
- Finally, what is the good news preached to all Gentiles now? That Jesus has died for your sins, was buried, and rose again. All you need to do is to believe in all those works he have done for you, and you are now reconciled to God (2 Corinthians 5:11-21)
All these are scriptural, and many people are realizing this for the very first time, so naturally, they will need time to understand and accept.
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I always find it interesting when someone accuses the staff of Christian Chat of "allowing" given persons a platform and not removing those persons that they personally believe are heretics.
A) The screening process for every new member is the same. We don't send out a questionnaire requiring persons to discuss at length their particular doctrinal stances and as such we have no way of knowing what those viewpoints are until they begin to post.
B) The staff of Christian Chat is predominantly volunteers who day after day log in and give of their time to deal with issues as they are brought to our attention. On an average day this site literally has in excess of a thousand new posts, routinely by far more than that, no one has the time to read every post in every thread in every forum. We always have and always will depend on users to report problematic users/posts.
C) In the 8 years that I have served on staff I have found that a large number of "heresy" complaints are definitely (IMO) bad doctrine but far from heresy. We have always permitted discussion from a broad spectrum of doctrinal backgrounds, many of which do not line up with the doctrinal stances of the Administration, as long as those viewpoints are not blatant heresy.
A) The screening process for every new member is the same. We don't send out a questionnaire requiring persons to discuss at length their particular doctrinal stances and as such we have no way of knowing what those viewpoints are until they begin to post.
B) The staff of Christian Chat is predominantly volunteers who day after day log in and give of their time to deal with issues as they are brought to our attention. On an average day this site literally has in excess of a thousand new posts, routinely by far more than that, no one has the time to read every post in every thread in every forum. We always have and always will depend on users to report problematic users/posts.
C) In the 8 years that I have served on staff I have found that a large number of "heresy" complaints are definitely (IMO) bad doctrine but far from heresy. We have always permitted discussion from a broad spectrum of doctrinal backgrounds, many of which do not line up with the doctrinal stances of the Administration, as long as those viewpoints are not blatant heresy.
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As Galatians 2:7 goes
But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;
Paul had the exclusive guardianship of the Gentile believers, Peter had exclusivity of the Jewish. So Paul would not mind if Peter had continue preaching to the Jews only that they cannot eat certain food, nor eat with Gentiles.
Paul was correcting Peter because at that time, Peter was among the Gentiles when they were all eating together.
By separating himself from them, Peter was giving everyone, Gentiles included, the impression that there are certain food (probably pork I believed) that was unacceptable.
I know you won't change your mind but this reply is to help Rickstudies.
But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;
Paul had the exclusive guardianship of the Gentile believers, Peter had exclusivity of the Jewish. So Paul would not mind if Peter had continue preaching to the Jews only that they cannot eat certain food, nor eat with Gentiles.
Paul was correcting Peter because at that time, Peter was among the Gentiles when they were all eating together.
By separating himself from them, Peter was giving everyone, Gentiles included, the impression that there are certain food (probably pork I believed) that was unacceptable.
I know you won't change your mind but this reply is to help Rickstudies.
For example, in this post ^ you made, it appears you have not bothered to LOOK to see whether either of these verses contains the definite article ("THE");… neither do. So your question posed to me is not consistent with the point I'm actually making, but one conjured up in your own mind as to what you have SUPPOSED I've said (but haven't).
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