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I agree with that. So back to the questions.
A. What does 1 Peter 1:5 teach?
B. What is the purpose of Jesus priestly ministry?
I’m not going to push you. Pray about it, take as long as you like, I’m in no hurry. I won’t ask you again. If you don’t want to answer, fine. Or take as long as you want
Forget about defending your position. Just look at the 1 Peter 1:5 and what Hebrews says about Jesus priestly ministry with an open mind, and let them say what they say
Maybe what you get out of them will show me my error
A. What does 1 Peter 1:5 teach?
B. What is the purpose of Jesus priestly ministry?
I’m not going to push you. Pray about it, take as long as you like, I’m in no hurry. I won’t ask you again. If you don’t want to answer, fine. Or take as long as you want
Forget about defending your position. Just look at the 1 Peter 1:5 and what Hebrews says about Jesus priestly ministry with an open mind, and let them say what they say
Maybe what you get out of them will show me my error
I like this ... sums it up nicely!! 
How come you guys never seem to exegete scripture. You give stories, analogies, philosophical points. But what is 1 Peter 1:5 about? What does it mean we are kept by the power of God through faith? What is the purpose of Jesus’ High Priestly ministry? Forget about you believe and what I believe. Just Look at the texts with a clear, open mind, setting aside what you are trying to argue. Let the scripture speak for itself
Quick question. David, a man after Gods own heart, committed fornication, adultery and murder all during the time that he was a man after God's own heart.
David also had many wives and many concubines. Do you think David was a fornicator in God's eyes, do you think he was a good Christian or a lost person? Did you know that David was a Christian?
David also had many wives and many concubines. Do you think David was a fornicator in God's eyes, do you think he was a good Christian or a lost person? Did you know that David was a Christian?
why are you always firing off questions? why don't you just state your beliefs ?
and. I do not build theology around individual verses. bad theology to do that. far better to use the N.T. as a whole.
and, just so you won't whine, what I posted above was a fancy way of saying " walk in the Sprit, and you will not fulfill the lust of the flesh.'
and, if you keep reading 1st Peter 1 , he says basically the same thing. so, there is your Scripture.
and. I do not build theology around individual verses. bad theology to do that. far better to use the N.T. as a whole.
and, just so you won't whine, what I posted above was a fancy way of saying " walk in the Sprit, and you will not fulfill the lust of the flesh.'
and, if you keep reading 1st Peter 1 , he says basically the same thing. so, there is your Scripture.
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Heb 11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:
Heb 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.
What was the promise that they didn't get until Christ rose from the dead, that will answer your question. Other than not receiving that promise, they were identical to us.
Heb 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.
What was the promise that they didn't get until Christ rose from the dead, that will answer your question. Other than not receiving that promise, they were identical to us.
They have a strong flesh and a weak spirit because they are taught that that is one of thei options, instead of being told what God has provided for them. As soon as they get out of the watered down gospel, they will grow and learn to walk in the Spirit, because the Bible not only says it is possible, it expects it. Do you want verses
Many reject that David was saved even though he speaks of his salvation in the present tense....they also deny that he had the crap whipped out of him (chastened) for the things he did that was contrary.....the Psalms also speak to disease in his old age....one of the biggest O.T. pictures of Jesus can be seen in the INNOCENT SON of David taking his place in death under the law for the murder of Uriah.....fast forward to the N.T.....thou SON OF DAVID have mercy on me cried the old man.....!
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A very good question indeed
I ask questions to broaden your thought. Telling people who don’t even know what regeneration is only leads to arguments.
One guy said does it mean you get saved again.
You said something about putting a timetable on it, which was utterly incoherent.
It shows that most do not understand the finer points of soteriology. So I point them to the Bible with questions, so they will actually read it, not just gloss over it with their presuppositions goggles
Then how did you think that I could put a time limit on regeneration? How could someone put a time limit on something that is instantaneous with faith. If you don’t know that, you don’t understand regeneration
Just like UG thought I said regeneration maintained by sin confession when I said fellowship maintained...
Just like UG thought I said regeneration maintained by sin confession when I said fellowship maintained...
the issue is this- you think ( wrongly) that regeneration means one starts instantly bearing fruit ( and we know how the fruit thing went for you, empty apple buckets and all).
so, I will leave this thread, and you, with this-
when 2 people come to Christ, one can instantly show a massive transformation , one can struggle with breaking free of certain sins for years.
if both are true believers , both are saved, even though it does not look the same.
that is why lordship salvation is bunk.
gb9 out.
so, I will leave this thread, and you, with this-
when 2 people come to Christ, one can instantly show a massive transformation , one can struggle with breaking free of certain sins for years.
if both are true believers , both are saved, even though it does not look the same.
that is why lordship salvation is bunk.
gb9 out.
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Lordship salvation doesn’t deny your post.
And if an apple tree taking years to bear fruit means the same for a believer, you must believe there is a 9 month gestation for a new bithh😜
And my argument before about fruit was it doesn’t NECESSARILY take years for a believer to bear fruit
But you and DC insisted on making an analogy walk on all fours.
If I interpret the wheat and the tares the same way you interpret the fruit tree analogy, there is only a few months, the ammount of time it takes wheat to grow, spanning the events of that parable. Go over to the parable, and handle it that way. 😂
I can poke so many holes in your fruit argument, it’s comical🤪😂
Thanks for posting. Good day now. 🖐
Please don’t make me go in depth on all the things wrong with it. My fingers will fall off from typing.
And if an apple tree taking years to bear fruit means the same for a believer, you must believe there is a 9 month gestation for a new bithh😜
And my argument before about fruit was it doesn’t NECESSARILY take years for a believer to bear fruit
But you and DC insisted on making an analogy walk on all fours.
If I interpret the wheat and the tares the same way you interpret the fruit tree analogy, there is only a few months, the ammount of time it takes wheat to grow, spanning the events of that parable. Go over to the parable, and handle it that way. 😂
I can poke so many holes in your fruit argument, it’s comical🤪😂
Thanks for posting. Good day now. 🖐
Please don’t make me go in depth on all the things wrong with it. My fingers will fall off from typing.