Not By Works

VCO · Sep 13, 2019

Glad you asked. OSAS, has always taught that ONCE we are Saved (Born Again), we have a new Eternally Alive Human Spirit in our HEART. Terms like Born From Above also describe it, and it is the instantaneous SALVATION of the HUMAN SPIRIT, when the HOLY SPIRIT COMES INTO US, and births our once dead human spirit into ETERNAL LIFE. The New Century Version says it best:

John 3:6 New Century Version (NCV)
6 Human life comes from human parents, but spiritual life comes from the Spirit.

That NEW LIVING SPIRIT, is controlled by the HOLY SPIRIT IN US. IT ALSO THINKS, TOO. The Mind Of the Flesh lies between our EARS. THE MIND OF THE HUMAN SPIRIT LIES WITHIN OUR HEART. They do war for control at FIRST. But the BORN AGAIN MIND of the Spirit, WILL WIN OUT as it is strengthened BY FEEDING on the WORD OF GOD. Spiritual Growth is DIRECTLY PROPORTIONAL TO OUR SPIRITUAL DIET. In other words, how much of the BIBLE you take in. The HUMAN SPIRIT WILL eventually DOMINATE the Will of the Flesh. OBEDIENCE is not part of Salvation, however IT WILL BE A PART OF OUR LOVE, that HE POURED INTO OUR HEARTS via the HOLY SPIRIT the MOMENT WE WERE SAVED. Obedience is PART OF SANCTIFICATION OF THE FLESH. IT LITERALLY IS LEARNING TO WALK LIKE JESUS, and HE WILL BE IN US TO HELP US, and so will the HOLY SPIRIT. It is a LIFE LONG STRUGGLE TO LEARN TO WALK EXACTLY LIKE JESUS, and will not END until the RESURRECTION. THEN AND ONLY THEN, WE WILL BE TOTALLY HOLY.

Many People have heard from those that ONLY SUSPECT that we teach that "Once you are saved, You are free to sin all you want, without repercussions." WHICH IS A TOTAL LIE, from people who have NO IDEA, WHAT WE ACTUALLY TEACH. I hope, you can see that OUR SALVATION IS SECURE, and JESUS HIMSELF IS KEEPING IT; and those that Fell Away, ONLY PROVED that they were NEVER BORN AGAIN IN THE FIRST PLACE. They main reason, IS JESUS IS IN CHARGE OF KEEPING OUR SALVATION SECURE AND SAFE, EVEN FROM MYSELF.

A little while ago when I was doing a research on Famous quotes from the PAST. I found on that website, by an unknown author.

SALVATION is like a FRIED EGG. ONCE IT IS COOKED, there is NO WAY YOU CAN UNCOOK IT. But PEOPLE think they are Saved or BORN AGAIN, when in reality they are NOT.

1 John 2:19 (NKJV)
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us.

2 Timothy 1:9 (HCSB)
9 He has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace, which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began.

Philippians 1:6 (HCSB)
6 I am sure of this, that He who started a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.

2 Timothy 2:19 (HCSB)
19 Nevertheless, God’s solid foundation stands firm, having this inscription: The Lord knows those who are His, and Everyone who names the name of the Lord must turn away from unrighteousness.

John 14:15 (NKJV)
15 "If you love Me [.That deep GODLY LOVE, which only the BORN AGAIN HAVE.], keep My commandments. [🖜the new nature of our Born Again Human Spirit it to LOVINGLY Strive to Obey HIM.]

NO, we are not perfect at it, but we will always Strive to Obey Him out of LOVE for HIM.

VCO · Sep 13, 2019

Lafftur said:

I DISAGREE, and here is why.

Judgement of true BELIEVERS are centered around, whether or NOT our Running the Race too win, or just to get by.
Is it worthy of REWARDS IN HEAVEN.

NO we are not going to have to go to the woodshed, to receive our LASHES for bad behavior.
OUR GOD IS UTTERLY MERCIFUL, AND GRACIOUS.

1 Corinthians 9:24-27 (HCSB)
24 Don’t you know that the runners in a stadium all race, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way to win the prize.
25 Now everyone who competes exercises self-control in everything. However, they do it to receive a crown that will fade away, but we a crown that will never fade away.
26 Therefore I do not run like one who runs aimlessly or box like one beating the air.
27 Instead, I discipline my body and bring it under strict control, so that after preaching to others, I myself will not be disqualified.

In the Olympic style of games during Paul's DAY, the PRIZE was a Laurel Wreath CROWN.

NOTICE in RECENT GAMES in GREECE, they still gave out the Laurel Wreath Crowns.
The Number of Leaves may indicate the number of times for the RIGHT MOTIVE that you Participated in the Events Worthy of Laurel Wreath. So what are those events ? ? ? ACTUALLY I THINK HE TOLD US:

Matthew 25:32-46 (HCSB)
32 All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.
33 He will put the sheep on His right and the goats on the left.
34 Then the King will say to those on His right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
35 For I was hungry and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty and you gave Me something to drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in;
36 I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you took care of Me; I was in prison and you visited Me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer Him, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You something to drink?
38 When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or without clothes and clothe You?
39 When did we see You sick, or in prison, and visit You?’
40 “And the King will answer them, ‘I assure you: Whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of Mine, you did for Me.’
41 Then He will also say to those on the left, ‘Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the Devil and his angels!
42 For I was hungry and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty and you gave Me nothing to drink;
43 I was a stranger and you didn’t take Me in; I was naked and you didn’t clothe Me, sick and in prison and you didn’t take care of Me.’
44 “Then they too will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or without clothes, or sick, or in prison, and not help You?’
45 “Then He will answer them, ‘I assure you: Whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for Me either.’
46 “And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

How do I know that JUDGEMENT does not apply to TRUE BELIEVERS, when we die or the Rapture comes first:

Titus 3:5-8 (HCSB)
5 He saved us— not by works of righteousness that we had done, but according to His mercy, through the washing of regeneration and renewal by the Holy Spirit.
6 He poured out this ⌊Spirit⌋ on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior,
7 so that having been justified by His grace, we may become heirs with the hope of eternal life.
8 This saying is trustworthy. I want you to insist on these things, so that those who have believed God might be careful to devote themselves to good works. These are good and profitable for everyone.

1 John 2:2 (NIV)
2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

HOW MANY SINS WERE NOT PAID FOR ON THE CROSS ? ? ?

ONLY ONE, blaspheming the work of the HOLY SPIRIT. If you Reject JESUS THE MESSIAH, have you not Blasphemed the work that Holy Spirit, who did it to try to get you to believe? Adolf Hitler did not go to Hades/Hell, for the atrocities he did during WWII, he went their for Rejecting CHRIST. The exact Same REASON that everyone that is cast in the LAKE OF FIRE, is guilty of, THE ONE UNFORGIVABLE SIN.

1 Corinthians 3:10-15 (HCSB)
10 According to God’s grace that was given to me, I have laid a foundation as a skilled master builder, and another builds on it. But each one must be careful how he builds on it.
11 For no one can lay any other foundation than what has been laid down. That foundation is Jesus Christ.
12 If anyone builds on that foundation with gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay, or straw,
13 each one’s work will become obvious, for the day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire; the fire will test the quality of each one’s work.
14 If anyone’s work that he has built survives, he will receive a reward. 🖜[.The Laurel Wreath Crown given to the Winning Athlete.]
15 If anyone’s work is burned up, it will be lost, but he will be saved; yet it will be like an escape through fire.

Mark 3:28-29 (HCSB)
28 I assure you: People will be forgiven for all sins and whatever blasphemies they may blaspheme.
29 But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”—

Now you should know HOW MERCIFUL OUR LORD TRULY IS.

Hebrews 8:12 (NASB)
12 "FOR I WILL BE MERCIFUL TO THEIR INIQUITIES, AND I WILL REMEMBER THEIR SINS NO MORE."

James 5:11 (HCSB)
11 See, we count as blessed those who have endured. You have heard of Job’s endurance and have seen the outcome from the Lord.
The Lord is very compassionate and merciful.

Macabeus · Sep 13, 2019

Lightskin said:

Jesus will lose none of His sheep

God will finish the work He began in us.

Jesus’ sheep hear His voice, know Him, and follow Him. He gives them eternal life, and they will never perish, neither will any one snatch them out of His hand

WAIT!!! Did the text just say that Jesus’ sheep FOLLOW HIM. Does that mean all or just some?

So we follow Jesus in obedience not to becomeHis sheep, but because we already are His sheep. Regenerated, justified, sanctified positionally and being sanctified progressively, engraftment in Him to bear much fruit, because of the awesome work He has done for us and God is doing in us.

Sound like I’m repeating myself again. But people think all this is works based. Well, true. Based on the work God has done, is doing m, and will do. He will complete the work He began in us

Macabeus · Sep 13, 2019

Lightskin said:

Paul said we will appear before the Bema, but not be judged for sin, but to be rewarded according to faithfulness

dcontroversal · Sep 13, 2019

Lafftur said:

Always..........now the salvation losers, self help salvation gurus and peddlers of false gospels like the two or three currently posting will never be forgiven because they have no actual trust in JESUS or faith.....they will be bumming when they find themselves in the many "group" that re refused entrance into the Kingdom

Macabeus · Sep 13, 2019

no the mediation of Christ

calibob said:

Are the words “ so that” a hina of purpose.? So his flesh must be destroyed so that His Spirit can be saved. So it is God going to extreme measures to preserve from hell. That means that Gods present and future preservation of us is necessary for our spirit to be saved in the day of Christ

It is not our works that save us, it is what God did that saved us

It is not our works that keeps us, it is the power and providence of God,

Macabeus · Sep 13, 2019

dcontroversal said:

Who are these people you are talking about? Rest assured that anyone who reads my posts with comprehension can see I do not fit that description. I only say this because you and your scarecrow army are always accusing me of this.

dcontroversal · Sep 13, 2019

RickStudies said:

Why don't you point out who believes such crap....No one in here peddles that....so...either you are mistaken, have not read the thread or a flat liar....which is it?

Lightskin · Sep 13, 2019

Macabeus said:

Jesus will lose none of His sheep

God will finish the work He began in us.

Jesus’ sheep hear His voice, know Him, and follow Him. He gives them eternal life, and they will never perish, neither will any one snatch them out of His hand

WAIT!!! Did the text just say that Jesus’ sheep FOLLOW HIM. Does that mean all or just some?

So we follow Jesus in FAITH not to becomeHis sheep, but because we already are His sheep. Regenerated, justified, sanctified positionally and being sanctified progressively, engraftment in Him to bear much fruit, because of the awesome work He has done for us and God is doing in us.

Sound like I’m repeating myself again. But people think all this is works based. Well, true. Based on the work God has done, is doing m, and will do. He will complete the work He began in us

Fixed it for ya. 😉

Lightskin · Sep 13, 2019

Macabeus said:

Guilty conscience?

Macabeus · Sep 13, 2019

dcontroversal said:

Yeah, the first day you labeled me all kinds of things because I exegeted the parable of the prodigal son as the younger son being the publicans and sinners, and the elder son the judgemental scribes and Pharisees. You argued that could not be because the Pharisees were not sons, even though the parable of the two sons refers to the same two groups.

Automatically makes me a heretic

Then I said that salvation was a multifaceted diamond, and even the privilidge of works, serving God was a gift, which many great men, Spurgein, Wesley, and others held

Makes me a heretic.

Gave Ephesians 2:10 as a text. You said I embellished. I’m a heretic

Then you said regarding fruit, that it takes years for a convert to bear fruit. I said, not necessarily, one may begin bearing fruit soon after conversion. Ah, say you. Heretic, liar, embellished. Then everyone and there mom started calling me a fruit inspector.

Yeah, you had me pegged right. You went Biserk over minor disagreements, and i only pushed the issues the way I did because of your blat

Melach said:

If you are saved, no. You will not go to hell. But the point is, willful sin, you saying hey if I lie I won’t go to hell, Isca sure sign of a heart not right with God.

We are saved by faith. But regeneration conditions our hearts to where, if we don’t harden them through persistent sin, which no Christian should want to do, we will not want to serve sin, and when we sin we will have remorse and not take sin lightly.

So, the focus is not so much on acts of sin, but the underlying cause. Sometimes the underlying cause is a professing believer with an unregenerate heart

Macabeus · Sep 13, 2019

Lightskin said:

Yeah, add words to the text. Yes follow in faith, but the very phrase you created by adding words to the text, (though there’s nothing wrong with the statement itself) indicates that faith is always active, to which the epistle of Jame agrees. Everyone in the faith chapter of Hebrews followedvGodvin faith, and how did their faith manifest.

The works do not save, but saving faith is not a dead faith

Lightskin said:

Follow in faith. Well even though YOU ADDED WORDS to a text, it’s ok, because it doesn’t hurt the meaning. So. What does it mean to follow in faith?

Macabeus · Sep 13, 2019

Lightskin said:

So show one thing I said that teaches work salvation before you get all rude and obnoxious, you might want to read post 27 in “not of works but saved unto works. “I think as a minister, if you disagree with what I wrote there, I think people should run from you

Oh and I take back my apology that I offered you a few posts later, because you have just made it clear that my first reaction was warranted

Don’t reply to me again. You do not hear a person out before you censure them.

Macabeus · Sep 13, 2019

Lightskin said:

I just thought of something...

So you fixed it by EDITING Jesus’ words.? 😉😯You say it better than He, huh? 😦 TRAGEDY. Classic and tragic🙁

Yeah it is follow in faith, and biblical faith is taught in James and modeled in Hebrews 11, but I find it hilarious that you FIXED my post by editing Jesus words.🤨

You should write a paraphrase, and we can throw away all our Bibles and the ancient manuscripts and use the paraphrase of Lightskin👍

Macabeus · Sep 13, 2019

Lightskin said:

UnderGrace said:

Actually your problem is you don’t know the difference between a descriptive and a proscriptive statement. I keep making descriptive statements, and you, EG and DCI terpret them as proscriptive. LSARN the difference, and then you will understand what I am saying

Lafftur · Sep 13, 2019

VCO said:

I DISAGREE, and here is why.

Judgement of true BELIEVERS are centered around, whether or NOT our Running the Race too win, or just to get by.
Is it worthy of REWARDS IN HEAVEN.

NO we are not going to have to go to the woodshed, to receive our LASHES for bad behavior.
OUR GOD IS UTTERLY MERCIFUL, AND GRACIOUS.

1 Corinthians 9:24-27 (HCSB)
24 Don’t you know that the runners in a stadium all race, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way to win the prize.
25 Now everyone who competes exercises self-control in everything. However, they do it to receive a crown that will fade away, but we a crown that will never fade away.
26 Therefore I do not run like one who runs aimlessly or box like one beating the air.
27 Instead, I discipline my body and bring it under strict control, so that after preaching to others, I myself will not be disqualified.

In the Olympic style of games during Paul's DAY, the PRIZE was a Laurel Wreath CROWN.

NOTICE in RECENT GAMES in GREECE, they still gave out the Laurel Wreath Crowns.
The Number of Leaves may indicate the number of times for the RIGHT MOTIVE that you Participated in the Events Worthy of Laurel Wreath. So what are those events ? ? ? ACTUALLY I THINK HE TOLD US:

Matthew 25:32-46 (HCSB)
32 All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.
33 He will put the sheep on His right and the goats on the left.
34 Then the King will say to those on His right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
35 For I was hungry and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty and you gave Me something to drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in;
36 I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you took care of Me; I was in prison and you visited Me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer Him, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You something to drink?
38 When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or without clothes and clothe You?
39 When did we see You sick, or in prison, and visit You?’
40 “And the King will answer them, ‘I assure you: Whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of Mine, you did for Me.’
41 Then He will also say to those on the left, ‘Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the Devil and his angels!
42 For I was hungry and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty and you gave Me nothing to drink;
43 I was a stranger and you didn’t take Me in; I was naked and you didn’t clothe Me, sick and in prison and you didn’t take care of Me.’
44 “Then they too will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or without clothes, or sick, or in prison, and not help You?’
45 “Then He will answer them, ‘I assure you: Whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for Me either.’
46 “And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

How do I know that JUDGEMENT does not apply to TRUE BELIEVERS, when we die or the Rapture comes first:

Titus 3:5-8 (HCSB)
5 He saved us— not by works of righteousness that we had done, but according to His mercy, through the washing of regeneration and renewal by the Holy Spirit.
6 He poured out this ⌊Spirit⌋ on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior,
7 so that having been justified by His grace, we may become heirs with the hope of eternal life.
8 This saying is trustworthy. I want you to insist on these things, so that those who have believed God might be careful to devote themselves to good works. These are good and profitable for everyone.

1 John 2:2 (NIV)
2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

HOW MANY SINS WERE NOT PAID FOR ON THE CROSS ? ? ?

ONLY ONE, blaspheming the work of the HOLY SPIRIT. If you Reject JESUS THE MESSIAH, have you not Blasphemed the work that Holy Spirit, who did it to try to get you to believe? Adolf Hitler did not go to Hades/Hell, for the atrocities he did during WWII, he went their for Rejecting CHRIST. The exact Same REASON that everyone that is cast in the LAKE OF FIRE, is guilty of, THE ONE UNFORGIVABLE SIN.

1 Corinthians 3:10-15 (HCSB)
10 According to God’s grace that was given to me, I have laid a foundation as a skilled master builder, and another builds on it. But each one must be careful how he builds on it.
11 For no one can lay any other foundation than what has been laid down. That foundation is Jesus Christ.
12 If anyone builds on that foundation with gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay, or straw,
13 each one’s work will become obvious, for the day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire; the fire will test the quality of each one’s work.
14 If anyone’s work that he has built survives, he will receive a reward. 🖜[.The Laurel Wreath Crown given to the Winning Athlete.]
15 If anyone’s work is burned up, it will be lost, but he will be saved; yet it will be like an escape through fire.

Mark 3:28-29 (HCSB)
28 I assure you: People will be forgiven for all sins and whatever blasphemies they may blaspheme.
29 But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”—

Now you should know HOW MERCIFUL OUR LORD TRULY IS.

Hebrews 8:12 (NASB)
12 "FOR I WILL BE MERCIFUL TO THEIR INIQUITIES, AND I WILL REMEMBER THEIR SINS NO MORE."

James 5:11 (HCSB)
11 See, we count as blessed those who have endured. You have heard of Job’s endurance and have seen the outcome from the Lord.
The Lord is very compassionate and merciful.

Hello VCO,

Not sure if you understood what I said.

If judgment begins at the house of God, then I’m inclined to think believers will experience judgment but only to the extent of 1/3, which is our flesh nature that we carry on our cross and kill it by following Christ. No flesh will inherit the Kingdom of God and no flesh will glory in His Presence.

In Revelation, the 7 trumpets are God’s judgment- only 1/3 dies. However, the 7 vials or bowls are God’s wrath - nothing survives.

God’s judgment also brings rewards.

True believers are saved and do not lose salvation but, their flesh is crucified and they receive rewards by God’s judgment, which begins at the house of God.

VCO · Sep 14, 2019

Lafftur said:

Laffture, you are off the WALL on this one. ASK dc.

Do you remember the VERSES:

1 Corinthians 15:51-53 (HCSB)
51 Listen! I am telling you a mystery: We will not all fall asleep, but we will all be changed,
52 in a moment, in the blink of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we will be changed.
53 For this corruptible must be clothed with incorruptibility, and this mortal must be clothed with immortality.

Every single mortal bound for HEAVEN, must Have his Mortal Body, changed into the GLORIFIED BODY to enter into HEAVEN.

IT happens in the Twinkling of an Eye, or In the Blink of an Eye, THE GLORIFIED BODY, can enter into HEAVEN.

The Last Trump, has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TRUMPET JUDGEMENTS, it is PART OF THE FEAST OF TRUMPETS. The conclusion of those Trumpet Blast is CALLED THE LAST TRUMP. The Feast of Trumpets is a Picture Prophecy of CHRIST returning FOR HIS BRIDE.

(Quote) This comes from a Messianic Christian Site, and will explain the FEAST, know as Rosh HaSanah, the LAST TRUMP

The site is CALLED: Promises To Israel

3. Fulfillment of the Feast of Trumpets:

– 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18: This passage speaks of the rapture and the trump of God. It gives seven points as to the Rapture itself.

– 1 Corinthians 15:50-58: This second passage deals with the details of the Rapture and also mentions the role that the trumpet will play. The trumpet mentioned in verse 52 is the last trump. Here Paul draws from Isaiah 27:13 but he also drawls from rabbinic tradition in the use of the Tekiah Gedolah, the last trump to signal the Rapture of the Church.
https://promisestoisrael.org/jewish-culture-2/jewish-holidays/rosh-hashanah-the-feast-of-trumpets/ (End Quote)

As far as I know, it has been called The Last TRUMP has been the title, ever since the Feast was first implemented after LEVITICUS 23:24 was WRITTEN.

HERE IS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE:

Last Trump of the Feast of Trumpets

Lafftur · Sep 14, 2019

Lightskin said:

Refer to post 107, 194.

Lafftur · Sep 14, 2019

VCO said:

Laffture, you are off the WALL on this one. ASK dc.

Do you remember the VERSES:

1 Corinthians 15:51-53 (HCSB)
51 Listen! I am telling you a mystery: We will not all fall asleep, but we will all be changed,
52 in a moment, in the blink of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we will be changed.
53 For this corruptible must be clothed with incorruptibility, and this mortal must be clothed with immortality.

Every single mortal bound for HEAVEN, must Have his Mortal Body, changed into the GLORIFIED BODY to enter into HEAVEN.

IT happens in the Twinkling of an Eye, or In the Blink of an Eye, THE GLORIFIED BODY, can enter into HEAVEN.

The Last Trump, has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TRUMPET JUDGEMENTS, it is PART OF THE FEAST OF TRUMPETS. The conclusion of those Trumpet Blast is CALLED THE LAST TRUMP. The Feast of Trumpets is a Picture Prophecy of CHRIST returning FOR HIS BRIDE.

(Quote) This comes from a Messianic Christian Site, and will explain the FEAST, know as Rosh HaSanah, the LAST TRUMP

The site is CALLED: Promises To Israel

3. Fulfillment of the Feast of Trumpets:

– 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18: This passage speaks of the rapture and the trump of God. It gives seven points as to the Rapture itself.

– 1 Corinthians 15:50-58: This second passage deals with the details of the Rapture and also mentions the role that the trumpet will play. The trumpet mentioned in verse 52 is the last trump. Here Paul draws from Isaiah 27:13 but he also drawls from rabbinic tradition in the use of the Tekiah Gedolah, the last trump to signal the Rapture of the Church.
https://promisestoisrael.org/jewish-culture-2/jewish-holidays/rosh-hashanah-the-feast-of-trumpets/ (End Quote)

As far as I know, it has been called The Last TRUMP has been the title, ever since the Feast was first implemented after LEVITICUS 23:24 was WRITTEN.

HERE IS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE:

Last Trump of the Feast of Trumpets

The last trump is the end of judgment. It’s time for true believers to leave Earth because they’re not scheduled for wrath. All that is left is wrath.

There will be a shift.

All true believers will not suffer God’s wrath.

eternally-gratefull · Sep 14, 2019

RickStudies said:

The ones who are hostile to gods grace, think they are living holy lives because they obey a few commands, and do not understand the curse of the law always shock me, i can never understand why they think their self righteousness will be accepted by god

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