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Like i said, judgement is all about love. The command to love is not a new one but from the beginning, it is what God has always required of you.
Salvation is not via two methods; belief in Christ and being of young age. No, only those that love abide in Christ's free gift.
Matt 18:3“Truly I tell you,” He said, “unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
What Jesus means here is not to be young (below the so called age of accountability) but to love or NOT HATE. Little children don't hate. Hate separates us from the love of Christ. All manner of sins comes from hate and he who loves fulfill ALL requirement. The faith that the bible is talking about has nothing to do with what you teach here, it is about love:
1 Cor 13: 7 (Love)It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
Love is being described as faith here.
Salvation is not via two methods; belief in Christ and being of young age. No, only those that love abide in Christ's free gift.
Matt 18:3“Truly I tell you,” He said, “unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
What Jesus means here is not to be young (below the so called age of accountability) but to love or NOT HATE. Little children don't hate. Hate separates us from the love of Christ. All manner of sins comes from hate and he who loves fulfill ALL requirement. The faith that the bible is talking about has nothing to do with what you teach here, it is about love:
1 Cor 13: 7 (Love)It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
Love is being described as faith here.
Like i said before, it is the opposite. Faith is expressed through love and not love through faith.
Gal 5:6For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. All that matters is faith, expressed through love.
Love takes preeminence.
What does faith means without love?
1 Cor 13:2... and if I have absolute faith so as to move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
Gal 5:6For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. All that matters is faith, expressed through love.
Love takes preeminence.
What does faith means without love?
1 Cor 13:2... and if I have absolute faith so as to move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
the bible never says to stack up supplies for the tribulation and be a prepper. or gives any advice to those left behind if its pretrib rapture
why didnt anyone talk about it in the bible. maybe they did but its just not in the bible. st.paul im sure had lots of more things to say that arent written down.
what about this pre-trib argument dcon: Jesus opens the seals but why would He do that on His own people? i remember you talked about people in revelation 5 in heaven right the 24 elders? i have to go recheck if you talked about it. but some say its the church in heaven prior to tribulation.
my look of it: why cant it be the people who have died and gone to heaven why does it have to be RESURRECTED saints? can some pretrib man answer it?
why didnt anyone talk about it in the bible. maybe they did but its just not in the bible. st.paul im sure had lots of more things to say that arent written down.
what about this pre-trib argument dcon: Jesus opens the seals but why would He do that on His own people? i remember you talked about people in revelation 5 in heaven right the 24 elders? i have to go recheck if you talked about it. but some say its the church in heaven prior to tribulation.
my look of it: why cant it be the people who have died and gone to heaven why does it have to be RESURRECTED saints? can some pretrib man answer it?
UMMMMMMMM, I suggest study brother!
WISE men see EVIL coming and prepare for it <---BIBLE states this
NOW....do you really want me to LIST every example in the bible that I can think of off of the top of my head where PREPARATIONS were made ahead of schedule and for a coming calamity?
4 things KILL tribulation saints
You all need to wake up....there is NO imminent return of Christ where we go POOF and disappear and then THOSE left behind that are SAVED are called TRIBULATION SAINTS..........
So many holes in the imminent return that the inventors of SWISS CHEESE are trying to copy it!!!!
WISE men see EVIL coming and prepare for it <---BIBLE states this
NOW....do you really want me to LIST every example in the bible that I can think of off of the top of my head where PREPARATIONS were made ahead of schedule and for a coming calamity?
4 things KILL tribulation saints
You all need to wake up....there is NO imminent return of Christ where we go POOF and disappear and then THOSE left behind that are SAVED are called TRIBULATION SAINTS..........
So many holes in the imminent return that the inventors of SWISS CHEESE are trying to copy it!!!!
[QUOTE="Noose, post: 4014265, member: 238750"]Faith is expressed through love and not love through faith.
Judgement as per Matthew 25 is based on love and not faith.
Faith without love means nothing but love beareth all things and believes and hopes too (1 Cor 13)[/QUOTE]
More lies in this post......the first line is not biblical and or of God.....!!
Judgement as per Matthew 25 is based on love and not faith.
Faith without love means nothing but love beareth all things and believes and hopes too (1 Cor 13)[/QUOTE]
More lies in this post......the first line is not biblical and or of God.....!!
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Dead in Christ rise FIRST, the we which Remain, then the Tribulation Saints.
No, and I do not want to Argue with you. You can choose to believe, it is post tribulation, AND I DO NOT. You will be here for the Post Trib mess, and I will be at the Wedding of the Lamb in heaven. The Parable of Ten Virgins, is an accurate picture of the Rapture.
This I BELIEVE is Talking about the Wrath of the LAMB to come:
1 Thessalonians 5:9-11 (NASB)
9 For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,
10 who died for us, so that whether we are awake or asleep, we will live together with Him.
11 Therefore encourage one another and build up one another, just as you also are doing.
Revelation 6:15-17 (NASB)
15 Then the kings of the earth and the great men and the commanders and the rich and the strong and every slave and free man hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains;
16 and they *said to the mountains and to the rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the presence of Him who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb;
17 for the great day of their wrath has come, and who is able to stand?"
So I BELIEVE 100% the RAPTURE will happen any day before the events of This DAY,
AND I BELIEVE REVELATION IS WRITTEN PRETTY MUCH IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER.
That Same DAY is early, near the beginning of the 7 Year, Great Tribulation, or no later than mid-trib,
is also the Hour of Testing referred to in this Verse.
Revelation 3:10 (NASB)
10 'Because you have kept the word of My perseverance, I also will keep you from the hour of testing, that hour which is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.
I Believe that is absolute Truth, as Much as I KNOW CHRIST, who is in my HEART.
No it is not my place to convince you of anything, that is the Holy Spirit's job.
I am still friends with you, and always will be.
No, and I do not want to Argue with you. You can choose to believe, it is post tribulation, AND I DO NOT. You will be here for the Post Trib mess, and I will be at the Wedding of the Lamb in heaven. The Parable of Ten Virgins, is an accurate picture of the Rapture.
This I BELIEVE is Talking about the Wrath of the LAMB to come:
1 Thessalonians 5:9-11 (NASB)
9 For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,
10 who died for us, so that whether we are awake or asleep, we will live together with Him.
11 Therefore encourage one another and build up one another, just as you also are doing.
Revelation 6:15-17 (NASB)
15 Then the kings of the earth and the great men and the commanders and the rich and the strong and every slave and free man hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains;
16 and they *said to the mountains and to the rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the presence of Him who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb;
17 for the great day of their wrath has come, and who is able to stand?"
So I BELIEVE 100% the RAPTURE will happen any day before the events of This DAY,
AND I BELIEVE REVELATION IS WRITTEN PRETTY MUCH IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER.
That Same DAY is early, near the beginning of the 7 Year, Great Tribulation, or no later than mid-trib,
is also the Hour of Testing referred to in this Verse.
Revelation 3:10 (NASB)
10 'Because you have kept the word of My perseverance, I also will keep you from the hour of testing, that hour which is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.
I Believe that is absolute Truth, as Much as I KNOW CHRIST, who is in my HEART.
No it is not my place to convince you of anything, that is the Holy Spirit's job.
I am still friends with you, and always will be.
notice its the unsaved people saying its wrath of the Lamb. Revelation 11:15 cross reference is where its God's announcement
revelation 3:10 is written to church of philadelphia i dont know why thats even a pre-trib proof text has nothing to do with the resurrection. keeping from an hour of trial =/= resurrected. also to one church Jesus says: tribulation for 10days. Smyrna.
revelation 3:10 is written to church of philadelphia i dont know why thats even a pre-trib proof text has nothing to do with the resurrection. keeping from an hour of trial =/= resurrected. also to one church Jesus says: tribulation for 10days. Smyrna.