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I do not think anyone is afraid of the truth brother, perhaps this is a new idea to many.
Maybe some have a separate perspective on this.
God ... being so powerful, could have made us with many purposes.
To point at only one may leave out others....
Maybe that is why I feel myself agreeing with a few different answers😁
Maybe some have a separate perspective on this.
God ... being so powerful, could have made us with many purposes.
To point at only one may leave out others....
Maybe that is why I feel myself agreeing with a few different answers😁
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Jesus was certainly a servant for us in that He died for us, but that's about as far as God being the servant to us that we can go.
BECAUSE He died for us, WE are now HIS servant. Paul makes this case in numerous places. But this idea that God created us for HIM to be our servant is just wrong. In some sense very wrong.
Imagine us facing God upon our death and saying to Him "Well done my faithful Father and servant". If He IS our servant, why couldn't we say that?
I would much rather HEAR from HIM "Well done my faithful servant". I prefer this image:
36 And one of the Pharisees desired him that he would eat with him. And he went into the Pharisee's house, and sat down to meat.
37 And, behold, a woman in the city, which was a sinner, when she knew that Jesus sat at meat in the Pharisee's house, brought an alabaster box of ointment,
38 And stood at his feet behind him weeping, and began to wash his feet with tears, and did wipe them with the hairs of her head, and kissed his feet, and anointed them with the ointment.
39 Now when the Pharisee which had bidden him saw it, he spake within himself, saying, This man, if he were a prophet, would have known who and what manner of woman this is that toucheth him: for she is a sinner.
40 And Jesus answering said unto him, Simon, I have somewhat to say unto thee. And he saith, Master, say on.
41 There was a certain creditor which had two debtors: the one owed five hundred pence, and the other fifty.
42 And when they had nothing to pay, he frankly forgave them both. Tell me therefore, which of them will love him most?
43 Simon answered and said, I suppose that he, to whom he forgave most. And he said unto him, Thou hast rightly judged.
44 And he turned to the woman, and said unto Simon, Seest thou this woman? I entered into thine house, thou gavest me no water for my feet: but she hath washed my feet with tears, and wiped them with the hairs of her head.
45 Thou gavest me no kiss: but this woman since the time I came in hath not ceased to kiss my feet.
46 My head with oil thou didst not anoint: but this woman hath anointed my feet with ointment.
47 Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little.
48 And he said unto her, Thy sins are forgiven.
49 And they that sat at meat with him began to say within themselves, Who is this that forgiveth sins also?
50 And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace.
BECAUSE He died for us, WE are now HIS servant. Paul makes this case in numerous places. But this idea that God created us for HIM to be our servant is just wrong. In some sense very wrong.
Imagine us facing God upon our death and saying to Him "Well done my faithful Father and servant". If He IS our servant, why couldn't we say that?
I would much rather HEAR from HIM "Well done my faithful servant". I prefer this image:
36 And one of the Pharisees desired him that he would eat with him. And he went into the Pharisee's house, and sat down to meat.
37 And, behold, a woman in the city, which was a sinner, when she knew that Jesus sat at meat in the Pharisee's house, brought an alabaster box of ointment,
38 And stood at his feet behind him weeping, and began to wash his feet with tears, and did wipe them with the hairs of her head, and kissed his feet, and anointed them with the ointment.
39 Now when the Pharisee which had bidden him saw it, he spake within himself, saying, This man, if he were a prophet, would have known who and what manner of woman this is that toucheth him: for she is a sinner.
40 And Jesus answering said unto him, Simon, I have somewhat to say unto thee. And he saith, Master, say on.
41 There was a certain creditor which had two debtors: the one owed five hundred pence, and the other fifty.
42 And when they had nothing to pay, he frankly forgave them both. Tell me therefore, which of them will love him most?
43 Simon answered and said, I suppose that he, to whom he forgave most. And he said unto him, Thou hast rightly judged.
44 And he turned to the woman, and said unto Simon, Seest thou this woman? I entered into thine house, thou gavest me no water for my feet: but she hath washed my feet with tears, and wiped them with the hairs of her head.
45 Thou gavest me no kiss: but this woman since the time I came in hath not ceased to kiss my feet.
46 My head with oil thou didst not anoint: but this woman hath anointed my feet with ointment.
47 Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little.
48 And he said unto her, Thy sins are forgiven.
49 And they that sat at meat with him began to say within themselves, Who is this that forgiveth sins also?
50 And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace.
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Dear Adstar: I love your discussion points. Now I have question?
Question 1: Lucifer, Lucifer is also interpreted "the day star" or " son of the morning" as the scripture goes on it describes how this Lucifer has lifted up his heart before God even to the point of declaring himself above God. Now comes the scripture that no one seems to want to except. This scripture describes how Lucifer was brought down. It says "Is this THE MAN that made the earth to tremble that did shake
kingdoms. The scripture clearly states this is a man. What are your thoughts?
Question 1: Lucifer, Lucifer is also interpreted "the day star" or " son of the morning" as the scripture goes on it describes how this Lucifer has lifted up his heart before God even to the point of declaring himself above God. Now comes the scripture that no one seems to want to except. This scripture describes how Lucifer was brought down. It says "Is this THE MAN that made the earth to tremble that did shake
kingdoms. The scripture clearly states this is a man. What are your thoughts?
I am His son, but He is greater than I.
Even if we are heirs, no we are not His equal.
He is the first, we are created.
He is all powerful, we are limited.
He is all knowing, we are not.
He is righteous, without Him we are could never be.
He is king, we are not.
We are in no way His equal.
Even if we are heirs, no we are not His equal.
He is the first, we are created.
He is all powerful, we are limited.
He is all knowing, we are not.
He is righteous, without Him we are could never be.
He is king, we are not.
We are in no way His equal.
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Well I don't understand this question.
I won't assume bad intentions, but to draw so much from one word is what I equated to the rabbit hole.
If it is speaking of the fallen angel "satan" (which is more a title than name as it is) then yes. The word which has been translated to "man" is being used to describe a male fallen angel.
The original word did indeed have multiple uses, as the current word does.
Do you have reason to believe that verse is speaking of the human, the antichrist who will declare a similar thing come the abomination of desolation?
I won't assume bad intentions, but to draw so much from one word is what I equated to the rabbit hole.
If it is speaking of the fallen angel "satan" (which is more a title than name as it is) then yes. The word which has been translated to "man" is being used to describe a male fallen angel.
The original word did indeed have multiple uses, as the current word does.
Do you have reason to believe that verse is speaking of the human, the antichrist who will declare a similar thing come the abomination of desolation?
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Dear eternally-gratefully: The example you gave comparing how you feel about your family and how that equates to our relationship with God is heart warming. Why is it so hard for us to believe that God is our father and we are his children and in being His children we have always had the inheritance of royalty.
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No.
Also I believe satin is a smooth glossy fabric which produces no evil in of itself.
(😁 just teasin)
Satan is "the enemy", but much evil comes from fleshly desires and temptations being fed.
I am not sure anyone here would believe all evil comes from the same individual being spoken of in that verse.
Also I believe satin is a smooth glossy fabric which produces no evil in of itself.
(😁 just teasin)
Satan is "the enemy", but much evil comes from fleshly desires and temptations being fed.
I am not sure anyone here would believe all evil comes from the same individual being spoken of in that verse.
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