I dreamed a dream

[Absolutely]

Several things have to be settled in ones spirit.
The Deity of Jesus
The God Head
Mans fall
Redemption of man (the passover lamb)
Redemption of the earth (Boaz,Naomi,Ruth)
The healing component in the NT
The power and authority Jesus transferred to his church
The never ending chapters in the book of acts.
The living walk power and intimacy with the life of God working,living in,and empowering me to fellowship and enjoy him intimately.
His eternal word,the authenticated Bible.

And on and on.

If those and others are not settled,my walk is hamstrung

 

[garee]

Clarity please, I believe the 10 Commandments are the only scripture actually written by GOD himself. I believe all scripture is GOD breathed=meaning ALL scripture is alive with the breath of GOD. I believe the Spirit of GOD give us understanding of his living WORD.
I also believe because the majority of scripture is written by men it contains human error and because Satan is the ruler of this earth and humans are easily influenced by him he has purposely placed "holes or inaccuracies" within it and has done so to cause separation of GOD's people from both GOD and each other. The Jews were GOD's chosen people a people he personally cleansed in order that they might bring forth mankind's Savior; and when I say to you indeed Satan was in the midst of the Israelites when they built a golden calf, you believe this and when I say Satan indeed was in the garden when Eve ate of the forbidden fruit, again you believe me. Why because the foundation of your belief system tells you I am truthful. But if I say Satan influences men through inaccuracies within their writings that have caused death and bickering and fighting and judment among GOD's people you think I'm not of GOD. Which foundation is stronger the Holy Spirit of GOD Almighty or Scripture. LOVE is the answer.

The whole bible, Gods word is not after any man it was written by men that he lived and in and moved according to His good pleasure .

If the ten commandment make up you only source of faith as a law not subject to change. How could you find salvation? What is your hope out side of what you cherry picked the ten commandments?

I have not heard of a religion called the ten commandments. Are they alone God breathed or written by the finger of God... two ways of saying God spoke..?

 

[garee]

I oppose this practice If you want the truth in scripture base it "souly" on the guidelines of the Holy Spirit, the 10 commandments or the 4 corroborated testimonies of the words of Christ. Any scripture that disagrees with GOD or Christ is not from GOD very simple.

Any scripture that you say disagrees agrees with God is not of God ?

That's odd any scripture that does not agree with the ten commandments is not of God?

When Paul spoke to the Bearens in Acts, the Spirit of God living in them moved them to search the scriptures daily to see if it was so.

If all they have is the ten commandment as law not subject to change .How did that work out? Or is the Acts account not written by the finger of God .And men are trying to lead your astray by something not written ?

What is that kind of faith based on? hopelessness . The ten commands kill

 

[pomeranian]

He sent the hand that wrote the inscription.​

This is the inscription that was written:​

MENE, MENE, TEKEL, PARSIN​

(Daniel 5:24-25)​

He sent.... not he wrote,
Exodus 31:18 And he gave to Moses, when he had finished speaking with him on Mount Sinai, the two tablets of the testimony, tablets of stone, written with the finger of God.

 

[pomeranian]

this isn't questioning the credibility of Moses' writings at all. it is confirming it. Christ does not deny the scripture here but explains it.
it says Moses "allowed" divorce because of evil in peoples hearts. does God not also make allowances for you, when He would be perfectly justified to be much more severe with you? this is mercy.

How do you not see That Jesus needed to clarify that Moses wrote something here that did not come from GOD?
How did GOD speak to mankind before scripture?

 

[pomeranian]

So this is all about subjective impression -- which can be delusional. The fact is that you are rejecting the Bible as the Word of God, and that kind of *impression* can only come from one source -- the Father of Lies.

The Lord Jesus Christ quoted from numerous books of the Bible. Since He is God manifest in the flesh, He would know without the shadow of a doubt what was true and what was false. And He gave His divine and authoritative stamp of approval on the whole Hebrew Tanakh -- the Law of Moses (5 books), the Prophets (8 books), and the Psalms or Writings (11 books). Read and study Luke 24 AND BELIEVE IT.

Studying Scripture without the Holy Spirit of GOD is what causes men of GOD to be separated from others and from GOD. Why can't you see that the attitudes I face on this site are identical to what Jesus faced when talking to the Jewish leaders?
My words do not come from me for without the Spirit of GOD I have no understanding.
You say my source is "the the father of lies" but I proclaim that GOD YHWH is the one and only Almighty Creator, I proclaim that Jesus of Nazareth, the son born of the virgin Mary is the Christ, the son of GOD and the living WORD of GOD. How can you say my belief in this comes from Satan? Pehaps you should do less reading and more requesting for the Holy Spirit of GOD so that his will is done in your life. Scriptures are to be used for teaching and correction but without the Holy Spirit of GOD you become nothing more than a blind guide. LOVE is the answer

 

[garee]

He sent.... not he wrote,
Exodus 31:18 And he gave to Moses, when he had finished speaking with him on Mount Sinai, the two tablets of the testimony, tablets of stone, written with the finger of God.

God is not a man as us he does not have a literal finger. Search out the spiritual meaning of finger or hand?

The two tablets of the testimony.Yes to set the standard as a written media as a law not subject to change . When the first tablets that God hewed out were broken to show their distain for the written media. God moved Moses to cut out two new ones and again God with his finger wrote them over. After that he does not use his finger to provide the actual etching save in the book Daniel when he supernaturally wrote His instruction on a wall, but supernaturally moved Moses by his finger to record His thoughts (not Moses)

You are simply preaching another gospel another Christ as the anti.

 

[posthuman]

Hebrews 1:1-2
God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by [His] Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds

Moses didn't just make stuff up. he inquired of God.

 

[posthuman]

He sent.... not he wrote,

Do you figure the one He sends doesn't accomplish His purpose?

 

[garee]

He sent.... not he wrote,
Exodus 31:18 And he gave to Moses, when he had finished speaking with him on Mount Sinai, the two tablets of the testimony, tablets of stone, written with the finger of God.

Sent wrote. . same difference. Six of one half dozen of another.

Sent them with what he wrote.

Moving them by his finger to both write and where to go with it..... as it is written .

 

[pomeranian]

Definitely a false prophet. Use non sequacious logic to create doubt or confusion is definitely the work of satan.
First call scripture God breathed and then say those same writing have errors influenced by satan, because God used man to write them is obfuscation.
Either God breathed those words and his spirit caused men to write them or man influenced by satan wrote those words.
You make the comparison to the Pharisees law, I guess you haven't noticed but their additions to scripture aren't in the scriptures they are in other writings, writings by men, not under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

First you must know the difference between the breath and the Spirit
Job 33:4 The Spirit of God has made me,
and the breath of the Almighty gives me life.

the Spirit of GOD creates is a peice of GOD himself unequalled to anything. if GOD created scripture it indeed would be perfect, without flaw and impossible to debate.
The Breath of GOD gives life, scripture is alive with the essence of GOD Almighty.

Can you think of anything that contains the breath of GOD but is also be influenced by Satan?

 

[pomeranian]

Do you figure the one He sends doesn't accomplish His purpose?

Seek your heart as to why you worded this question in this manner. For we were discussing the only scriptures that were actually written by the finger of GOD (there is no writings in any scripture that are considered written by Christ himself) and you have tried to trick me into making a claim that Jesus did not accomplish GOD's will. Again Jewish leaders attempting to trick and deceive that they might proclaim their knowledge is infallible Seek the Spirit of GOD in prayer and fasting; As the Scribes and Pharasees have shown very clearly GOD's Spirit cannot be found in the Scriptures.

 

[pomeranian]

I cannot say all.. But i would say most.. But i do not like to deal with people as members of a denominational group.. I deal with people as individuals on a doctrine by doctrine basis.. I focus on the Holy Bible and seek to learn it and believe it.. I was born into a catholic family and was a Sunday mass goer with my family and served 10 years as an alter boy every Sunday.. But when i read the Bible for the first time when i was in my early 20's i could not go to mass anymore. I got out of that denomination..



The letters after the 4 Gospels are also inspired scripture.. But apart from that point yes all both OT and NT is inspired by God and needs to be taken in as a whole.. It was a revelation of Gods will delivered gradually over many generations..




Well i know many people have a problem with the word ""Religon"" But that word only means you have a set of beliefs in regard to God.. I have a set of beliefs in regard to God and you have a set of beliefs in regard to God so both of us have our religion..

Adstar your words are chosen carefully and you show to have experience in more than one faith, My dream is for men like you, that perhaps some of our children who are being raised in a day and age where Satan flaunts his power over this earth endlessly, may be saved and brought to Christ. Men who have learned from the mistakes made by the Jewish leaders and are open to GOD's will. May the Spirit of GOD's love be with you.
Watch the movie Gandhi for me then please tell me if you think the Holy Spirit of GOD dwelled within a Hindu. Only when we have LOVE for everyone on this earth can we find the only path to Christ and Christ is the only path to GOD's Kingdom. LOVE is the answer to all questions namely what is the great commandment.

 

[pomeranian]

Ok,your starting place or approach need not put such heavy emphasis on mans distortion of the written word.
Because i say,God is able to hand his church a perfect hand book. It is his testimony.
What authenticated Jesus?
Several things.
But the fact is God authenticated him.
Same with the bible. God authenticated his book.
If we do a study,i will be on the high ground. I believe it is the word of God.

I just came oit of a bible study where some pauline guy came in to unsettle that very thing. The inerrant accuracy of the bible.
He lost,but his seed was planted.
I only listen to the great men of God.
Hardly any modern ones.

Having things to unlearn clutters up my harmony.
There is a harmony in the bible. Heavens harmony.
In that harmony animal death,human death and the death of the God Man.
Lots of death. But in your thoughts,or i should say the same approach you use,is another "obsticle" you have not factored in.
The geneologies.
They are humanly impossible,right along with those "players" individual testimonies.
See,it all had to happen exactly like it "went down"

Remember,Jesus was "slain from the foundation of the world"
Now play out that depth.
What we have is Gods ETERNAL TESTIMONY.
That testimony involved mans creation,fall,and redemption.
IOW,That book was written before adam.

It is the word and testimony of God.

I agree ALL scripture is GOD breathed and useful for teaching and correction LOVE

 

[Magenta]

… I proclaim that GOD YHWH is the one and only Almighty Creator, I proclaim that Jesus of Nazareth, the son born of the virgin Mary is the Christ, the son of GOD and the living WORD of GOD. How can you say my belief in this comes from Satan? Pehaps you should do less reading and more requesting for the Holy Spirit of GOD so that his will is done in your life. Scriptures are to be used for teaching and correction but without the Holy Spirit of GOD you become nothing more than a blind guide. LOVE is the answer

Do you proclaim that Jesus is God?

 

[pomeranian]

The whole bible, Gods word is not after any man it was written by men that he lived and in and moved according to His good pleasure .

If the ten commandment make up you only source of faith as a law not subject to change. How could you find salvation? What is your hope out side of what you cherry picked the ten commandments?

I have not heard of a religion called the ten commandments. Are they alone God breathed or written by the finger of God... two ways of saying God spoke..?

Garee If Jesus ever in any quote written by anyone in Scripture contrdicted his FATHER's Commandments please tell me, for that would be a scripture I am unfamiliar with. Jesus disputed many scriptures written by Moses, but he never disputed or changed his FATHER's laws. My "focus" on the 10 Commandments is similar to my "focus" on the words of Christ documented and corroborated by his disciples in the New Testament. (As he didn't write anything himself)
Jesus made His Father's Laws more clear for people because of those who would twist GOD's words, such as with murder the ultimate sin against a fellow man.
Matthew 5: 21 “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder; and whoever murders will be liable to judgment.’ 22 But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother[c] will be liable to judgment; whoever insults[d] his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell[e] of fire.
Adultery which is the ultimate sexual sin as it is committed against a person whom you have made a promise to GOD concerning.
Matthew 5:27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

My problem is in these end days we must get back to The Holy Spirit for guidance because obviously Satan is obviously using the inaccuracies in scripture to turn our away from any belief in GOD or Christ. Then there's the fact that men decided to stop teaching who our enemy was and what he is capable of, some have even taught that Satan is no longer any threat to mankind! Look around he is a greater threat to man today then he ever has been. Our obstinance have left our children at the mercy of Satan's plan to separate as many of GOD's children as he can from GOD. LOVE in Our Lord Jesus the Christ.

 

[pomeranian]

Do you proclaim that Jesus is God?

I cannot proclaim that which the Holy Spirit does not proclaim to me.
Revelation 1:1 The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show to his servants[a] the things that must soon take place. Why would GOD have to give himself a revelation?

 

[garee]

Garee If Jesus ever in any quote written by anyone in Scripture contrdicted his FATHER's Commandments please tell me, for that would be a scripture I am unfamiliar with. Jesus disputed many scriptures written by Moses, but he never disputed or changed his FATHER's laws. My "focus" on the 10 Commandments is similar to my "focus" on the words of Christ documented and corroborated by his disciples in the New

Scripture is not written by Moses. God worked as the finger of God in Moses to both will and do His good pleasure .Not one thought came from Moses . Scriptures are not a personal commentaries as ones own private interpretation /revelation..

My problem is in these end days we must get back to The Holy Spirit for guidance because obviously Satan is obviously using the inaccuracies in scripture to turn our away from any belief in GOD or Christ.

We should protect the integrity of the word according to the warning do not add a new meaning a word singular (Deu. 4:3) It could change the direction of the flow as to the authors intent. .

That could be where you problem stems from . Rather than thinking he is using inaccuracies or mistranslations in scripture to turn our away from any belief in GOD or Christ. The father of lies is not interpreting them in respect to the law of faith but adds and subtracts from them turning things upside down as if earthly inspired of the devil rather than heavenly not seen . Like; "Did God say you will surely die" challenging the integrity of it ? Focus on a proper interpretation . If something seems out of place look to the meaning of the word .He has not left us as orphans in that way .

There could be some errors but they do not remove the spirit of truth and make the grace of God without effect.

I think of that you offered with the word "sabbath" it has taken on many new meaning or the word "apostle" completely destroying the foundation of the word . They can affect the outcome in other usages .

 

[garee]

I cannot proclaim that which the Holy Spirit does not proclaim to me.
Revelation 1:1 The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show to his servants[a] the things that must soon take place. Why would GOD have to give himself a revelation?

I would offer they are the words Christ gave John to write down as law.

 

[Magenta]

I cannot proclaim that which the Holy Spirit does not proclaim to me.
Revelation 1:1 The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show to his servants[a] the things that must soon take place. Why would GOD have to give himself a revelation?

The revelation of Jesus Christ was to John, for believers. It seems you have no idea how logically inconsistent it is to assert that Satan influenced the writing of Scripture, while also saying it is God breathed... you know, according to your view, Satan could just as easily have had it written that the Decalogue was written by the finger of God.