Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.
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Here is what I believe about forgiveness of sins:
(1) Jesus died for the sins of the entire world - that is - his death makes forgiveness of sins available to all who come to him in faith
(2) When a person comes to Christ in faith all of their past sins are forgiven because of Jesus' shed blood.
(3) When a Christian commits a sin (and Christians do sin sometimes
) that sin is forgiven because of the blood of Jesus Christ. God does not hold the sin of a believer against him: it is immediately and completely covered by the blood of Jesus - I John 1:9 - he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins
The basis of forgiveness is always the blood of Jesus Christ. I am not forgiven because I obey, repent, etc. Now, of course, when the believer understands his sin, the normal response is to repent and mourn over that sin.
My belief is different than the typical OSAS understanding because that understanding says all of our sins were past, present, and future were forgiven either when Jesus died (5 point Calvinism) or when we were justified (OSAS only). I find no reference to the forgiveness of future sins in the Bible. My sins are forgiven daily and moment by moment as I commit them, and as long as I am in Christ I have this promise of forgiveness and eternal life.
Hallelujah and praise the Lord for His sacrifice, for His love, and for His mercy!
(1) Jesus died for the sins of the entire world - that is - his death makes forgiveness of sins available to all who come to him in faith
(2) When a person comes to Christ in faith all of their past sins are forgiven because of Jesus' shed blood.
(3) When a Christian commits a sin (and Christians do sin sometimes
) that sin is forgiven because of the blood of Jesus Christ. God does not hold the sin of a believer against him: it is immediately and completely covered by the blood of Jesus - I John 1:9 - he is faithful and just to forgive us our sinsThe basis of forgiveness is always the blood of Jesus Christ. I am not forgiven because I obey, repent, etc. Now, of course, when the believer understands his sin, the normal response is to repent and mourn over that sin.
My belief is different than the typical OSAS understanding because that understanding says all of our sins were past, present, and future were forgiven either when Jesus died (5 point Calvinism) or when we were justified (OSAS only). I find no reference to the forgiveness of future sins in the Bible. My sins are forgiven daily and moment by moment as I commit them, and as long as I am in Christ I have this promise of forgiveness and eternal life.
Hallelujah and praise the Lord for His sacrifice, for His love, and for His mercy!
Where sin abounds grace abounds the more
If we walk in the light as he is in the light we have fellowship one with another and the blood of his Son Jesus cleanses us from all sin.
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Bro.....there is but one gospel and only one that saves. If one believes into another gospel that is blended with the loss of salvation or a salvation that must be maintained, they have believed into a gospel of a different kind with NO POWER TO SAVE.....regardless of how sincere they may be!
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Do you believe in Jesus Christ today? If so, you are saved!
If you do not believe in Jesus Christ today you are not saved.
Why make this thing harder than it is!
If you do not believe in Jesus Christ today you are not saved.
Why make this thing harder than it is!
I doubt G-d appreciates His authority being relegated to a 2nd position.
Here is what I believe about forgiveness of sins:
(1) Jesus died for the sins of the entire world - that is - his death makes forgiveness of sins available to all who come to him in faith
(2) When a person comes to Christ in faith all of their past sins are forgiven because of Jesus' shed blood.
(3) When a Christian commits a sin (and Christians do sin sometimes) that sin is forgiven because of the blood of Jesus Christ. God does not hold the sin of a believer against him: it is immediately and completely covered by the blood of Jesus - I John 1:9 - he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins
The basis of forgiveness is always the blood of Jesus Christ. I am not forgiven because I obey, repent, etc. Now, of course, when the believer understands his sin, the normal response is to repent and mourn over that sin.
My belief is different than the typical OSAS understanding because that understanding says all of our sins were past, present, and future were forgiven either when Jesus died (5 point Calvinism) or when we were justified (OSAS only). I find no reference to the forgiveness of future sins in the Bible. My sins are forgiven daily and moment by moment as I commit them, and as long as I am in Christ I have this promise of forgiveness and eternal life.
Hallelujah and praise the Lord for His sacrifice, for His love, and for His mercy!
(1) Jesus died for the sins of the entire world - that is - his death makes forgiveness of sins available to all who come to him in faith
(2) When a person comes to Christ in faith all of their past sins are forgiven because of Jesus' shed blood.
(3) When a Christian commits a sin (and Christians do sin sometimes
) that sin is forgiven because of the blood of Jesus Christ. God does not hold the sin of a believer against him: it is immediately and completely covered by the blood of Jesus - I John 1:9 - he is faithful and just to forgive us our sinsThe basis of forgiveness is always the blood of Jesus Christ. I am not forgiven because I obey, repent, etc. Now, of course, when the believer understands his sin, the normal response is to repent and mourn over that sin.
My belief is different than the typical OSAS understanding because that understanding says all of our sins were past, present, and future were forgiven either when Jesus died (5 point Calvinism) or when we were justified (OSAS only). I find no reference to the forgiveness of future sins in the Bible. My sins are forgiven daily and moment by moment as I commit them, and as long as I am in Christ I have this promise of forgiveness and eternal life.
Hallelujah and praise the Lord for His sacrifice, for His love, and for His mercy!
Can you still be saved according to OSAS, even when you follow another Gospel?
I came to God 7 years ago. I believed in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ. I said sorry "change of mind" for my sins. I believed in the imputed Righteousness of Christ, thought I was forgiven for my past present and future sins, had a relationship with Jesus.
When I came to Jesus on ______ lost the actual date, I was sealed with the holy spirit (A seal that cant be reversed).
I lived a lifestyle of ungodliness after I was saved, was I saved?
*Some on here tell me I wasnt saved(never saved to begin with).
But you then tell me I was sealed (A seal that cant be broken).
Why wasnt the holy spirit, doing the work in me for over 3 years?
Why did I bear absolutely no fruit with the holy spirit in me?
Am I still saved will following another Gospel?
You tell me I am sealed by the holy spirit (nothing can break that seal I received 7 years ago on that special day I came to jesus.
So am I saved still, even though I follow another Gospel now?.
I came to God 7 years ago. I believed in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ. I said sorry "change of mind" for my sins. I believed in the imputed Righteousness of Christ, thought I was forgiven for my past present and future sins, had a relationship with Jesus.
When I came to Jesus on ______ lost the actual date, I was sealed with the holy spirit (A seal that cant be reversed).
I lived a lifestyle of ungodliness after I was saved, was I saved?
*Some on here tell me I wasnt saved(never saved to begin with).
But you then tell me I was sealed (A seal that cant be broken).
Why wasnt the holy spirit, doing the work in me for over 3 years?
Why did I bear absolutely no fruit with the holy spirit in me?
Am I still saved will following another Gospel?
You tell me I am sealed by the holy spirit (nothing can break that seal I received 7 years ago on that special day I came to jesus.
So am I saved still, even though I follow another Gospel now?
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Take pride out of the equation and see what's left....... is there a hunger in your soul to know and love God? Is there sorrow over sin?
I have a question for preston39, nat2019, Guojing, FollowHisSteps, and maybe chester, and whoever else I forgot to list ...
You seem strongly attached to your doctrine, my question is, were you ever tempted to stray from your own doctrine even once, if so, what caused you to question your own doctrine and did you consider it as a possible weakness to the doctrine you believe?
You seem strongly attached to your doctrine, my question is, were you ever tempted to stray from your own doctrine even once, if so, what caused you to question your own doctrine and did you consider it as a possible weakness to the doctrine you believe?
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Good luck migo with getting a straight answer......what they peddle is akin to a Street Organ player in Calcutta with a dancing monkey for coin........or maybe some minimum wage worker twisting dough into a pretzel.........it is impossible to engage with dialogue when those engaged cannot honestly represent the word of God......
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Okay, I'll go find it.........
Around this area...
https://christianchat.com/threads/why-i-now-believe-that-salvation-can-be-lost.185786/post-3972568
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Okay, I'll go find it.........
https://christianchat.com/threads/why-i-now-believe-that-salvation-can-be-lost.185786/post-3972565
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