Is the “Sinner’s Prayer” in the Bible?

[tourist]

Exit stage left. Another blasphemer trying to replace the baptism of the spirit by the hands of God, with the baptism in water by the hands of man.

That's my take as well. Some people choose to live in fear, crossing all of the 'T's', dotting all the 'I's' and waiting for all of the lights to go green less they be found wanting. Sad really. Oh well.

 

[tourist]

An accusation made but no remedy supplied. Perhaps the OP will inform all us ignorant souls how to be saved. Nah too much to hope for without a doubt.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

I wouldn't place much hope in that.

 

[Beckworth]

John said the he baptizes with water but the one that is coming after him will baptize with the Holy Spirit and fire. I believe that the baptism that John performed was a type to the superior baptism that was to come. Thief on the cross to the right of Jesus was not baptized with water and he made out OK. Something about being with Jesus in paradise.

As stated before on this post, the thief on the cross lived under the the Old Testament law of Moses which did not require baptism of water or spirit. We live under the law of Christ which did not come into effect until after his death. Hebrews 9:16&17 says

 

[tourist]

Jesus who as God underwent water baptism to fulfill all righteousness
and to show to his disciples the pattern of how things must be done

water baptism is fundamental to Christian doctrine and obedience.
so also is Holy Spirit baptism (and yes the sign is speaking in tongues; praying in the Holy Spirit)

I believe that the reason Jesus allowed John to baptize him was to fulfil prophesy, and not necessary reaffirming that you must be baptized with water by full immersion. I don't believe that Jesus even mentioned about the need to be baptized in water by full immersion one way or another. Very strange indeed if water baptism by full immersion was a critical prerequisite for salvation.

 

[tourist]

As stated before on this post, the thief on the cross lived under the the Old Testament law of Moses which did not require baptism of water or spirit. We live under the law of Christ which did not come into effect until after his death. Hebrews 9:16&17 says

So if we choose to live under the OT law of Moses we can skip the water baptism without any adverse consequences? Good to know. Thought that the law was nailed to the cross. Actually, I never believed that nonsense either.

 

[Beckworth]

As stated before on this post, the thief on the cross lived under the the Old Testament law of Moses which did not require baptism of water or spirit. We live under the law of Christ which did not come into effect until after his death. Hebrews 9:16&17 says

that where there is a Testament, there must also be the death of the testator for a Testament (will) is of no force while the testator lives. Therefore, the law or will of Christ (baptism for remission of sins in the name of Jesus) was in force ONLY. AFTER. He was dead. Best I can read, Jesus was still alive when he saved the thief on the cross.

 

[Off123123123]

Just to be clear then. The passage I cited out of Romans doesn't teach that a person calls on the Lord, even though it says people call upon the LORD. It doesn't say people confess the LORD with their lips, even though it says they will confess him with their lips. AND it doesn't say there will be a time they believe on Him in their heart, even though it says you must believe on him in your heart.

*nods*

 

[tourist]

that where there is a Testament, there must also be the death of the testator for a Testament (will) is of no force while the testator lives. Therefore, the law or will of Christ (baptism for remission of sins in the name of Jesus) was in force ONLY. AFTER. He was dead. Best I can read, Jesus was still alive when he saved the thief on the cross.

The terms Old and New Testament are not mentioned in the bible. The divisions of the testaments, books, chapters, and verses were done by man to make it easier to read and refer back to. Don't remember coming across the last will and testament of Jesus being recorded in the bible either.

 

[Beckworth]

Just to be clear then. The passage I cited out of Romans doesn't teach that a person calls on the Lord, even though it says people call upon the LORD. It doesn't say people confess the LORD with their lips, even though it says they will confess him with their lips. AND it doesn't say there will be a time they believe on Him in their heart, even though it says you must believe on him in your heart.

*nods*

Acts 22:16 clearly shows what it means to call on the name of the Lord and how it is done. And

The terms Old and New Testament are not mentioned in the bible. The divisions of the testaments, books, chapters, and verses were done by man to make it easier to read and refer back to. Don't remember coming across the last will and testament of Jesus being recorded in the bible either.

Hebrews 8:7 talks about the first covenant (testament) and the second covenant. (testament). Verse 8 talks about a New covenant and verse 13 says the first covenant is now old (obsolete) and ready to vanish away. So yes the scriptures do talk about an Old Testament and a New Testament.

 

[tourist]

Acts 22:16 clearly shows what it means to call on the name of the Lord and how it is done. And


Hebrews 8:7 talks about the first covenant (testament) and the second covenant. (testament). Verse 8 talks about a New covenant and verse 13 says the first covenant is now old (obsolete) and ready to vanish away. So yes the scriptures do talk about an Old Testament and a New Testament.

You are correct in that covenant and testament convey the same meaning.

 

[dcontroversal]

I guess Jesus was stupid or mistaken when he said the man that walked away justified was the man that would not even look to heaven while saying, "Be merciful unto me a sinner"

 

[Lanolin]

Um can you post what exactly the sinners prayer you are referring to is.
I cant find it in my Bible.

Unless you are meaning the one where the tax collector said 'Lord have mercy on me, a sinner' in luke 18:13

He was also beating his chest when he said it.

 

[Lanolin]

Or maybe Psalm 56?

 

[Waggles]

Where in the bible does it state that the Apostles were baptized?

Are you kidding ?? !!
Were in the NT does it state that they were not baptised?

 

[p_rehbein]

Nothing wrong with that if that is what the Bible teaches. Study the scriptures to see if these things are so. Acts 17:11

Yeah, 13,997 million Threads on that, and STILL folks disagree on what the Bible teaches concerning water baptism as it relates to salvation.

Everyone thinks THEY are the Authority to know what is Truth and what isn't.......

It ends up being which Denominational/Non-denominational teaching one sides with......

 

[Josefnospam]

no this is one of mans many inventions that have no bearing

 

[preston39]

No one in the Bible who was seeking Christ was ever told to pray-anything- to be saved. That was not how people in the New Testament were saved.

The Apostle Paul (Saul) saw Jesus on the road to Damascus. Even talked to him. That would surely count as a “religious experience” wouldn’t it?

He BELIEVED. on the road to Damascus. Yet when he asked Jesus what he should do, Jesus did not say, just accept me into your heart, or just say a prayer (sinner’s prayer”), or you don’t have to do anything, you are already saved because you believe. Please take note that these are all answers that MEN give to that question to people today but these are NOT Jesus's answer. Jesus said for him to go into the city and it will be told you what you MUST do. There were some things he HAD to do but none of those other things were the right answer.

So what did Saul DO? He prayed for 3 days with fasting. Surely he was repenting. I know he was sorry for all he had done in persecuting the followers of Christ.

Finally, after 3 days Anninias came to him and said, ...what are you waiting for? Arise and be baptized and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord. Acts 22:16

So faith alone did not save him, he still had his sins. Repentance by itself did not save him, he still had his sins. His sins were washed away only when he had fulfilled Mark 16:16, believed and was baptized. Baptism was the final act. These were the things Jesus told Saul he “Must” do.

He was not saved by a religious experience, prayer or faith only. Read it for yourself!! The people of Thessolonica were noble or fair minded because they searched the scriptures to see if those things are true. Search the scriptures to see how people in the Bible were really saved. For your souls sake, make sure you are saved the same way they were.

A sinner must pray acknowledging G-d as our creator and asking Him for forgiveness of our sins.

I guess one can call it a sinners prayer. But, there seems to be no pat words for recitation other than the basics.

 

[Lanolin]

Or how about Jobs convo with the Lord in chapter 42:1-6?

 

[Beckworth]

Acts 22:16 clearly shows what it means to call on the name of the Lord and how it is done. And


Hebrews 8:7 talks about the first covenant (testament) and the second covenant. (testament). Verse 8 talks about a New covenant and verse 13 says the first covenant is now old (obsolete) and ready to vanish away. So yes the scriptures do talk about an Old Testament and a New Testament.

Hebrews 9:16 talks about a will or Testament being in force only after the testator (person writing the will) is dead. Refers to The New Testament (of which he is the mediator verse 15) being in force after the death of Christ on the cross.

 

[Beckworth]

A sinner must pray acknowledging G-d as our creator and asking Him for forgiveness of our sins.

I guess one can call it a sinners prayer. But, there seems to be no pat words for recitation other than the basics.

A sinner must pray acknowledging G-d as our creator and asking Him for forgiveness of our sins.

I guess one can call it a sinners prayer. But, there seems to be no pat words for recitation other than the basics.

Can you give me a scripture that says a sinner MUST PRAY AND ASK God for forgiveness of sin in order to be saved? I have never read that in the Bible. Is that from God or man?