Is the “Sinner’s Prayer” in the Bible?
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Seems that much of what passes for Christian life and faith these days has been dumbed down to praise and worship
no sound doctrine no standing on the word of God
no sound doctrine no standing on the word of God
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Since Peter preached that that’s what you must do to have remission of sins in Act2:38 and since all the apostles were there at the preaching of that sermon and then 3000 people were baptized that day, I believe they were among the 3000 being baptized. It makes no sense to argue that Peter and the rest of the apostles would not do what Peter was saying they must do to have remission of sins. Besides, God said he is no respecter of persons. So why would he require Paul to be baptized and not the other apostles? God does not require one thing from me to be saved and something different for you to be saved. His plan of salvation is the same for everyone.
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the need for water baptism for salvation is nothing more than works salvation. for water baptism is surely a work. it is a physical act performed by at least two people...........ergo........ works salvation
ya can't do enough works to gain salvation, but, hey, keep trying
ya can't do enough works to gain salvation, but, hey, keep trying
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I will say this though. It makes all the difference as to WHY or for what purpose you are being baptized. If you were baptized just to become a member of some denomination or because you believed you were already saved then that is not the “ONE” baptism talked about in Ephesians 4. In Acts 20 The apostle Paul re-baptized some people because they needed the right baptism.
As with any single verse or passage, we discern what it teaches through careful consideration of the language and context of the verse. We also filter it through what we know the Bible teaches elsewhere on the subject. In the case of baptism and salvation, the Bible is clear that salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, not by works of any kind, including baptism (Ephesians 2:8-9). So, any interpretation which comes to the conclusion that baptism, or any other act, is necessary for salvation is a faulty interpretation.
Regarding Mark 16:16, it is important to remember that there are some textual problems with Mark chapter 16, verses 9-20. There is some question as to whether these verses were originally part of the Gospel of Mark or whether they were added later by a scribe. As a result, it is best not to base a key doctrine on anything from Mark 16:9-20, such as snake handling, unless it is also supported by other passages of Scripture.
Assuming that verse 16 is original to Mark, does it teach that baptism is required for salvation? The short answer is, no, it does not. In order to make it teach that baptism is required for salvation, one must go beyond what the verse actually says. What this verse does teach is that belief is necessary for salvation, which is consistent with the countless verses where only belief is mentioned (e.g., John 3:18; John 5:24; John 12:44; John 20:31; 1 John 5:13).
“He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned” (Mark 16:16). This verse is composed of two basic statements. 1—He who believes and is baptized will be saved. 2—He who does not believe will be condemned.
While this verse tells us something about believers who have been baptized (they are saved), it does not say anything about believers who have not been baptized. In order for this verse to teach that baptism is necessary for salvation, a third statement would be necessary, viz., “He who believes and is not baptized will be condemned” or “He who is not baptized will be condemned.” But, of course, neither of these statements is found in the verse. More on Mark 16:16 here.
Regarding Mark 16:16, it is important to remember that there are some textual problems with Mark chapter 16, verses 9-20. There is some question as to whether these verses were originally part of the Gospel of Mark or whether they were added later by a scribe. As a result, it is best not to base a key doctrine on anything from Mark 16:9-20, such as snake handling, unless it is also supported by other passages of Scripture.
Assuming that verse 16 is original to Mark, does it teach that baptism is required for salvation? The short answer is, no, it does not. In order to make it teach that baptism is required for salvation, one must go beyond what the verse actually says. What this verse does teach is that belief is necessary for salvation, which is consistent with the countless verses where only belief is mentioned (e.g., John 3:18; John 5:24; John 12:44; John 20:31; 1 John 5:13).
“He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned” (Mark 16:16). This verse is composed of two basic statements. 1—He who believes and is baptized will be saved. 2—He who does not believe will be condemned.
While this verse tells us something about believers who have been baptized (they are saved), it does not say anything about believers who have not been baptized. In order for this verse to teach that baptism is necessary for salvation, a third statement would be necessary, viz., “He who believes and is not baptized will be condemned” or “He who is not baptized will be condemned.” But, of course, neither of these statements is found in the verse. More on Mark 16:16 here.
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Jesus is alive and well
If you had a million dollars and you left instructions in your will as to where your money should go after your death, then while you are alive you can spend that money any way and anytime you please. It’s your money. And your will has no effect as long as you are alive. But after your death. The recipients of that money have to abide by the terms of the will. If not then they won’t get the money. Exact parallel to Jesus Christ and his will or testament. While Jesus was here on earth he could give salvation to whomsoever he pleased. It was his to give. This is when the thief on the cross was saved. After his death the terms of his will were effective and now everyone, you and me included must abide by the terms of his will if we want his salvation. That’s why it’s ridiculous to say “I want to be saved like the thief on the cross”. Do you want to be saved without the blood of Jesus? With out the death of a savior? That’s how the thief was saved. Is Jesus here today to grant you salvation in person? If not, then you better find out what are the terms of his will and obey them or you may miss out.
Of the apostles, only the apostle Paul's baptism is explicitly recorded in Scripture
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He who puts food in his mouth and swallows will live. But he who doesn’t put food into his mouth will die. Do I really need to say “ and doesn’t swallow “? Do you honestly believe that a person who doesn’t believe would be baptized anyway?? Why would he.? The only reason for being baptized if if you believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God. That’s ridiculous. Thankfully God credited us with having some sense.
I find it very interesting that every time a specific Bible verse does damage to a false doctrine, like James 2:24 destroys the doctrine of “faith only” and Mark 16:16 plainly puts baptism BEFORE salvation, then the passage itself and its credibility comes under attack. I guess the idea is, if you can’t refute what it says then just say it’s not inspired and shouldn’t be there.
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