Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.
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Sorry I dont have a Greek bible. But maybe I should get one
Those who know the new birth in Christ have no doubt that they are changed and no longer under condemnation. They know because the Holy Spirit witnesses with their spirit that they are saved. That assurance of salvation is unshakeable.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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just tell me one word that this believer has spoken that has been WRONG! Not everyone believes as you do! That does not automatically make them wrong and I will NOT run screaming from your bullying! You must judge yourself a lot for as you know Jesus said judge not ,least you be judged! I stand FIRM in my faith,and put on HIS righteousness!. Call me whatever you choose but if I were you I'd be VERY CAREFUL about being unloving to those in Christ! 🙏🙏🙏
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Listen....you twisted, embellished, falsely accused me and changed the context of your questions numerous times in a very deceptive way....and when ONE SIDES WITH THAT THEY HAVE SIDED WITH SIN.....you can argue all you want.....this is exactly what you have done and anyone with honesty reading can see it......we are done....and you won't last long here doing things like that!!
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Hey I just wrote that too.....
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Hey I just wrote that too.....
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Between those who are saved (you can't be saved or KNOW you have ETERNAL life if you at some point suffer what you were supposedly "saved" from)
we have sapplings made new in Christ
young trees with fruit still needing much growth
fruitful trees still not perfect but Gods love shines brightly in them
and to the unsaved (wheat/goats, blind, wolves)
there are those who openly reject God (they do not trust in Jesus Christ, they worship false gods or are atheist or even know the truth and still reject it wanting to call good evil and evil good)
those who pretend to trust in Christ but trust in their works
those who pretend to trust in Christ but use Gods grace as a reason to sin (never given a new heart which may struggle but be ashamed of sin... instead use the truth to indulge in sins carefree, showing where their heart truly is)
but no....
you cannot be "saved" and "kept by the power of God"
then end up in hell
that would make Him a weak liar and the bible imperfect as well
but praise God for being faithful and honest
His works in His children produce an enduring and lasting faith which grows into actual knowledge of Him which couldn't be turned away from
the revolving door salvation gospel based off your own performace is gross and tries to belittle Christ to being only a prerequisite and implies man holds salvation on his own shoulders
it makes Gods loving gift sound like a hard earned reward which can be taken away left and right....
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so sad
we have sapplings made new in Christ
young trees with fruit still needing much growth
fruitful trees still not perfect but Gods love shines brightly in them
and to the unsaved (wheat/goats, blind, wolves)
there are those who openly reject God (they do not trust in Jesus Christ, they worship false gods or are atheist or even know the truth and still reject it wanting to call good evil and evil good)
those who pretend to trust in Christ but trust in their works
those who pretend to trust in Christ but use Gods grace as a reason to sin (never given a new heart which may struggle but be ashamed of sin... instead use the truth to indulge in sins carefree, showing where their heart truly is)
but no....
you cannot be "saved" and "kept by the power of God"
then end up in hell
that would make Him a weak liar and the bible imperfect as well
but praise God for being faithful and honest
His works in His children produce an enduring and lasting faith which grows into actual knowledge of Him which couldn't be turned away from
the revolving door salvation gospel based off your own performace is gross and tries to belittle Christ to being only a prerequisite and implies man holds salvation on his own shoulders
it makes Gods loving gift sound like a hard earned reward which can be taken away left and right....
😧
so sad
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