Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.
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Well nearly everything in the new testament was taught to a church or group of people.
If we are only supposed to view it as a (history) book,
That would then mean nothing taught, would be for Christian's today. If that were so, then all you would need is the "date" of Jesus death to just (believe) he died, was buried and risen from the dead or possibly a couple of verses referring to his death. E.g John 3.16
Because if you don't need to apply it your life what benefit would it have "other than being another story book"?
If we are only supposed to view it as a (history) book,
That would then mean nothing taught, would be for Christian's today. If that were so, then all you would need is the "date" of Jesus death to just (believe) he died, was buried and risen from the dead or possibly a couple of verses referring to his death. E.g John 3.16
Because if you don't need to apply it your life what benefit would it have "other than being another story book"?
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Thank you so much, anyone who's not against me, is with me
. Yes I have offended a few people, but some people enjoy having a good discussion even though we dont see the bible the same way. . I am glad someone doesn't find my posts offensive
. Yes I have offended a few people, but some people enjoy having a good discussion even though we dont see the bible the same way. . I am glad someone doesn't find my posts offensive
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Wow a scripture that says CLEANSE "yourselves"
2 Timothy 2:21
Therefore, if anyone cleanses himself from what is dishonorable, he will be a vessel for honorable use, set apart as holy, useful to the master of the house, ready for every good work.
2 Timothy 2:21
Therefore, if anyone cleanses himself from what is dishonorable, he will be a vessel for honorable use, set apart as holy, useful to the master of the house, ready for every good work.
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It's fine to correct a brother or sister out of love- providing him or her scriptures.
Galatians 6:1
Brothers, if anyone is caught in any transgression, you who are spiritual should restore him in a spirit of gentleness. Keep watch on yourself, lest you too be tempted.
Matthew 18:15-17
“If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.
Galatians 6:1
Brothers, if anyone is caught in any transgression, you who are spiritual should restore him in a spirit of gentleness. Keep watch on yourself, lest you too be tempted.
Matthew 18:15-17
“If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.
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Instead of labeling people constantly why dont you actually say something productive? That could help another person's walk with God. Instead of always wanting to be right Everyone knows you think they are deceiving bible twisters. I guess only your view of the bible is the correct one isnt it? That's all you go on about constantly. Throwing labels towards people who dont agree with you
Everyone knows you think they are deceiving bible twisters. I guess only your view of the bible is the correct one isnt it? That's all you go on about constantly. Throwing labels towards people who dont agree with you
a. Is deceptive
b. Embellishes words, context and twists what others say
c. You embellish what you say after the fact
d. Have proven you are dishonest and not truthful
So....when you can be honest engage me...by the way...your verbaige proves you have been around longer than you peddle....and your use of everyone in your post is just another lie....
Good luck!
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Let me see if I got the picture. You have been here less than 70 hrs, and have well over 100 posts.
No introduction. No greeting. NO LOVE toward anybody.
Just jump right into one of the more contentious issues like a bull in a china closet. Accusing. Maligning. Purposefully twisting others words and intentions.
You have gone after one member in particular, because you read his statements "over the internet".
I'm thinking this verse, unfortunately fits you pretty well:
Romans 16:17-18 New King James Version (NKJV)
Avoid Divisive Persons
17 Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them. 18 For those who are such do not serve our Lord [a]Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple.
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REAL (GRACE) trains people to renounce ungodliness
Titus 2:11-14
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people, training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age, waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works.
FALSE GRACE tells people to continue in sin, Gods grace is upon you.
Jude 1:4
For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.
Titus 2:11-14
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people, training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age, waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works.
FALSE GRACE tells people to continue in sin, Gods grace is upon you.
Jude 1:4
For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.
Hi there you seem to repeat yourself alot
John 8:7 King James Version (KJV)
7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
John 8:7 King James Version (KJV)
7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
Hi there thank you for the Kind introduction
