Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.
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The rest of the bible needs to be removed then. And taken to the library
. Put in the history section
. Put in the history section
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You obviously have different beliefs to me
2 Timothy 3:16-17New King James Version (NKJV)
16 (All) Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for [a]instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
2 Timothy 3:16-17New King James Version (NKJV)
16 (All) Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for [a]instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
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You obviously have different beliefs to me
If you are correct, why does the bible say be a DOER OF THE WORD
2 Timothy 3:16-17New King James Version (NKJV)
16 (All) Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for [a]instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
If you are correct, why does the bible say be a DOER OF THE WORD
2 Timothy 3:16-17New King James Version (NKJV)
16 (All) Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for [a]instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. 23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; 24 for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. 25 But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does.
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You obviously have different beliefs to me
2 Timothy 3:16-17New King James Version (NKJV)
16 (All) Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for [a]instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
2 Timothy 3:16-17New King James Version (NKJV)
16 (All) Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for [a]instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
So you are also recognizing that not all of the Bible are written TO us, even though they were written FOR us.
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Seems to take so long for a simple answer, the question wasnt that complicated.
If God is faithful why wasnt
The new testament is relevant for todays Christian's. For training and instruction. But there are many good proverbs and psalms that also have a kind of instruction. Psalm 1 ::NIV. Blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked or stand in the way of sinners or sit in the seat of mockers. But his delight is in the law of the LORD, and on his law he meditates day and night.
There are many examples, we can follow and apply to our relationship with God. We can use some books as examples of what we should do to help our relationships with God. Like this psalm can be used as an encouragment to avoid ungodly friendships and also to read our bible day and night. That's how I view it
If God is faithful why wasnt
The new testament is relevant for todays Christian's. For training and instruction. But there are many good proverbs and psalms that also have a kind of instruction. Psalm 1 ::NIV. Blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked or stand in the way of sinners or sit in the seat of mockers. But his delight is in the law of the LORD, and on his law he meditates day and night.
There are many examples, we can follow and apply to our relationship with God. We can use some books as examples of what we should do to help our relationships with God. Like this psalm can be used as an encouragment to avoid ungodly friendships and also to read our bible day and night. That's how I view it
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Seems to take so long for a simple answer, the question wasnt that complicated.
If God is faithful why wasnt
The new testament is relevant for todays Christian's. For training and instruction. But there are many good proverbs and psalms that also have a kind of instruction. Psalm 1 ::NIV. Blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked or stand in the way of sinners or sit in the seat of mockers. But his delight is in the law of the LORD, and on his law he meditates day and night.
There are many examples, we can follow and apply to our relationship with God. We can use some books as examples of what we should do to help our relationships with God. Like this psalm can be used as an encouragment to avoid ungodly friendships and also to read our bible day and night. That's how I view it
If God is faithful why wasnt
The new testament is relevant for todays Christian's. For training and instruction. But there are many good proverbs and psalms that also have a kind of instruction. Psalm 1 ::NIV. Blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked or stand in the way of sinners or sit in the seat of mockers. But his delight is in the law of the LORD, and on his law he meditates day and night.
There are many examples, we can follow and apply to our relationship with God. We can use some books as examples of what we should do to help our relationships with God. Like this psalm can be used as an encouragment to avoid ungodly friendships and also to read our bible day and night. That's how I view it
. But no where in the bible have I personally been asked to build an arc. This story is more focused on Gods wrath on Sinners, how he hated sin so much that he sent a flood to destroy everyone who didnt want to know him (those who loved evil and hated good)
Instead of labeling people constantly why dont you actually say something productive? That could help another person's walk with God. Instead of always wanting to be right Everyone knows you think they are deceiving bible twisters. I guess only your view of the bible is the correct one isnt it? That's all you go on about constantly. Throwing labels towards people who dont agree with you
Everyone knows you think they are deceiving bible twisters. I guess only your view of the bible is the correct one isnt it? That's all you go on about constantly. Throwing labels towards people who dont agree with you-
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I dont think I could build an arc that big. But no where in the bible have I personally been asked to build an arc.
This story is more focused on Gods wrath on Sinners, how he hated sin so much that he sent a flood to destroy everyone who didnt want to know him (those who loved evil and hated good)
. But no where in the bible have I personally been asked to build an arc.This story is more focused on Gods wrath on Sinners, how he hated sin so much that he sent a flood to destroy everyone who didnt want to know him (those who loved evil and hated good)
Seems to take so long for a simple answer, the question wasnt that complicated.
If God is faithful why wasnt
The new testament is relevant for todays Christian's. For training and instruction. But there are many good proverbs and psalms that also have a kind of instruction. Psalm 1 ::NIV. Blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked or stand in the way of sinners or sit in the seat of mockers. But his delight is in the law of the LORD, and on his law he meditates day and night.
There are many examples, we can follow and apply to our relationship with God. We can use some books as examples of what we should do to help our relationships with God. Like this psalm can be used as an encouragment to avoid ungodly friendships and also to read our bible day and night. That's how I view it
If God is faithful why wasnt
The new testament is relevant for todays Christian's. For training and instruction. But there are many good proverbs and psalms that also have a kind of instruction. Psalm 1 ::NIV. Blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked or stand in the way of sinners or sit in the seat of mockers. But his delight is in the law of the LORD, and on his law he meditates day and night.
There are many examples, we can follow and apply to our relationship with God. We can use some books as examples of what we should do to help our relationships with God. Like this psalm can be used as an encouragment to avoid ungodly friendships and also to read our bible day and night. That's how I view it
another way is to start at romans and end at Philemon. That is how I do it.
2 peter 2
20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
Seem to me Peter believe that It is possible for a man escape from pollution of the world(save) and back to unsave
20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
Seem to me Peter believe that It is possible for a man escape from pollution of the world(save) and back to unsave
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Si.
Matthew Ch 13 is what I was referring to.
This discussion in general I have my reservations about OSAS, and that may be true for some.
Phillipians 2:12 is kind of what my overall thought process is atm. People are going to disagree (to a small measure). Jesus has many attributes and it stands to reason that everyone's salvation and sanctification looks a little bit different. Some may have less grace than others for certain things, some a deeper revelation on one attribute than another. One person's story could be marked by the peace and an easy life of praise and thanksgiving and another person could have a brutally hard life and see the Lord's faithfulness in a way that another could not.
We are all unique. What we believe should line up with the word certainly though, I will say that scripture seeds deeper in me everyday and what I thought lined up 10 years ago I KNOW lines up now. Cool process
Matthew Ch 13 is what I was referring to.
This discussion in general I have my reservations about OSAS, and that may be true for some.
Phillipians 2:12 is kind of what my overall thought process is atm. People are going to disagree (to a small measure). Jesus has many attributes and it stands to reason that everyone's salvation and sanctification looks a little bit different. Some may have less grace than others for certain things, some a deeper revelation on one attribute than another. One person's story could be marked by the peace and an easy life of praise and thanksgiving and another person could have a brutally hard life and see the Lord's faithfulness in a way that another could not.
We are all unique. What we believe should line up with the word certainly though, I will say that scripture seeds deeper in me everyday and what I thought lined up 10 years ago I KNOW lines up now. Cool process