So when Jesus prayed 34Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.” And they divided up His garments by casting lots. Luke 3:34 He was just talking to himself? Heresy!"... and the Word was GOd. ..."
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So when Jesus prayed 34Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.” And they divided up His garments by casting lots. Luke 3:34 He was just talking to himself? Heresy!
I have to admit ps, you do make me laugh at times and this is one of them. So if I take your Rock Hudson example and said for example my real name is Jack and then I said my neighbors name is also Jack would that make us the same person? Of course this is not a good example so let me try this.
It says at John 1:1, In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was "WITH" God, and the Word was God." Now if you read the context of the first chapter the Word/Logos" is identified as Jesus Christ. No bear with me here.
John 1:1 says, "In the beginning." Genesis 1:1 also says "In the beginning God created etc" Now, both verses start out with the same three words and I'm pretty sure you don't know the difference between the three words at Genesis 1:1 and John 1:1. The main though in Genesis 1:1 is on WHAT HAPPENED "in the beginning. At John 1:1 the emphasis is on WHO EXISTED in the beginning.
So the point is the fact that Jesus Christ who is the "Word/Logos" existed BEFORE the beginning of Genesis 1:1. In other words, the Apostle John is telling us that the person of Jesus Christ was 'WITH" God in the beginning and is God." And John 1:3 says, "All things came into being by Him/Jesus Christ, and apart from Him (Or without Him) nothing came into being that has come into being."
This has nothing to do with "Names or Authority." What about God the Father and God the Holy Spirit? God in His infinite wisdom chose to manifest Himself in terms of a Father and Son relationship. This is how He commnicated to us in way that we would understand. It says at Hebrews 1:5, "I will be a Father to Him and He will be a Son to Me." At Hebrews 1:8 God the Father says to the Son, "Thy throne O God is forever and ever." Then at vs10 the Father says, "Thou Lord, in the beginning didst lay the foundation of the earth, And the heavens are the works of Thine hands."
Going further into Hebrews at chapter 10 vs5, "Sacrifice and offering Thou hast not desired, But a body Thou hast prepared for Me." No matter how you slice it ps, you have three Persons in the Godhead that are all identified as God. In fact, the word "Godhead" simply means "Deity." So do us all a favor and start to "THINK." PS: And btw, instead of trying to look for "loopholes" or mistakes in what I stated, reason it out and think about it real hard first.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
It says at John 1:1, In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was "WITH" God, and the Word was God." Now if you read the context of the first chapter the Word/Logos" is identified as Jesus Christ. No bear with me here.
John 1:1 says, "In the beginning." Genesis 1:1 also says "In the beginning God created etc" Now, both verses start out with the same three words and I'm pretty sure you don't know the difference between the three words at Genesis 1:1 and John 1:1. The main though in Genesis 1:1 is on WHAT HAPPENED "in the beginning. At John 1:1 the emphasis is on WHO EXISTED in the beginning.
So the point is the fact that Jesus Christ who is the "Word/Logos" existed BEFORE the beginning of Genesis 1:1. In other words, the Apostle John is telling us that the person of Jesus Christ was 'WITH" God in the beginning and is God." And John 1:3 says, "All things came into being by Him/Jesus Christ, and apart from Him (Or without Him) nothing came into being that has come into being."
This has nothing to do with "Names or Authority." What about God the Father and God the Holy Spirit? God in His infinite wisdom chose to manifest Himself in terms of a Father and Son relationship. This is how He commnicated to us in way that we would understand. It says at Hebrews 1:5, "I will be a Father to Him and He will be a Son to Me." At Hebrews 1:8 God the Father says to the Son, "Thy throne O God is forever and ever." Then at vs10 the Father says, "Thou Lord, in the beginning didst lay the foundation of the earth, And the heavens are the works of Thine hands."
Going further into Hebrews at chapter 10 vs5, "Sacrifice and offering Thou hast not desired, But a body Thou hast prepared for Me." No matter how you slice it ps, you have three Persons in the Godhead that are all identified as God. In fact, the word "Godhead" simply means "Deity." So do us all a favor and start to "THINK."
PS: And btw, instead of trying to look for "loopholes" or mistakes in what I stated, reason it out and think about it real hard first.IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
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So when Jesus prayed 34Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.” And they divided up His garments by casting lots. Luke 3:34 He was just talking to himself? Heresy!
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ISA.54:5.
For thy Maker is your Husband; The LORD of Hosts is His name; and your Redeemer The Holy One of Israel;
The God of the whole earth shall He be called.
MARK 12:29-34.
And Jesus answered him, The first of all the Commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is One Lord:
30.
And you shalt love The Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind,
and with all thy strength: this is the first Commandment.
31.
And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love your neighbour as yourself.
There is none other Commandment greater than these.
32.
And the scribe said unto Him, Well, Master,
Thou hast said the truth: for there is One God; and there is None Other but He:
33.
And to love Him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength,
and to love his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.
34.
And when Jesus saw that he answered discreetly, He said unto him, you art not far from The Kingdom of God.
And no man after that did ask Him any question.
ACTS 4:24.
And when they heard that, they lifted up their voice to God with one accord, and said, Lord, Thou art God,
which hast made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that in them is:
JOHN 1:1-2-3-4.
In the beginning was The Word, and The Word was with God, and The Word was God.
2.
The Same was in the beginning with God.
3.
All things were made by Him; and without Him was not any thing made that was made.
4.
In Him was Life; and The Life was The Light of men.
EPH. 4:30.
And grieve not The Holy Spirit of God, whereby you are sealed unto the day of redemption.
31.
Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
32.
And be you kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
For thy Maker is your Husband; The LORD of Hosts is His name; and your Redeemer The Holy One of Israel;
The God of the whole earth shall He be called.
MARK 12:29-34.
And Jesus answered him, The first of all the Commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is One Lord:
30.
And you shalt love The Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind,
and with all thy strength: this is the first Commandment.
31.
And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love your neighbour as yourself.
There is none other Commandment greater than these.
32.
And the scribe said unto Him, Well, Master,
Thou hast said the truth: for there is One God; and there is None Other but He:
33.
And to love Him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength,
and to love his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.
34.
And when Jesus saw that he answered discreetly, He said unto him, you art not far from The Kingdom of God.
And no man after that did ask Him any question.
ACTS 4:24.
And when they heard that, they lifted up their voice to God with one accord, and said, Lord, Thou art God,
which hast made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that in them is:
JOHN 1:1-2-3-4.
In the beginning was The Word, and The Word was with God, and The Word was God.
2.
The Same was in the beginning with God.
3.
All things were made by Him; and without Him was not any thing made that was made.
4.
In Him was Life; and The Life was The Light of men.
EPH. 4:30.
And grieve not The Holy Spirit of God, whereby you are sealed unto the day of redemption.
31.
Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
32.
And be you kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
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