No sir, Cain bloodline was preserved through Ham's wife. His son Cush is what the Jews call the Ethiopians.
Was Adam and Eve a newer creation than genesis 1?
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No sir, Cain bloodline was preserved through Ham's wife. His son Cush is what the Jews call the Ethiopians.
When you insert your own words while denying what the Bible explicitly says, you are not teaching sound doctrine at all, but fiction. You have been shown your error but shamefully prefer to slander those who care enough about what God's Word actually says to stand by it.
Genesis begins with the words, "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." This is the beginning of time itself, and this is why the Hebrew word yome which is normally taken to mean 24 hours is not applicable here. So, we are going back billions of years to when mankind [male and female v27] were first created. Whether or not God created more people I do not know, but I do know that population quickly explodes and given the time gap between "the beginning" and the relatively modern family of Adam, Eve, Cain, Able, Seth and their sisters, there had been ample time for other nations to form, from the original creation, and settle across Africa and elsewhere.
I don't know how I feel when I read this as we agree and then don't agree. I believe "In the beginning God created the heaven and earth". I have not been able to find any scripture that tells me any thing other than "world that then was" kinds of references so billions or millions I can not say. I do however know" all of the souls were created at the same time", but not that they were male and female before being born in the flesh. (No need for reproduction in 1st age as all were created and stood together) This part of Job which gives a part of it can only be understoond if you already understand "being born from above "innocent" in the flesh" But once you learn that then this "sets in " the timeline
Job 38:1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
Job 38:2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
Job 38:3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.
Job 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. Job was there, just doesn't remember.
Job 38:5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
Job 38:6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? But God tells us straight up that ALL the sons were.
Job 38:8 Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb?
Job 38:9 When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it,
Job 38:10 And brake up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors,
Job 38:11 And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?
Job 38:12 Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused the dayspring to know his place;
Job 38:13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? Reference to Noahs Flood???
Job 38:14 It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment.
Job 38:15 And from the wicked their light is withholden, and the high arm shall be broken. (They will not be around forever)
Which explains
Isaiah 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
Isaiah 45:19 I have not spoken in secret, in a dark place of the earth: I said not unto the seed of Jacob, Seek ye me in vain: I the LORD speak righteousness, I declare things that are right.
As for the "Beginning" having the Earth, well Wisdom speaking in Proverbs
Proverbs 8:22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
Proverbs 8:23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
Proverbs 8:24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
Proverbs 8:25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
Proverbs 8:26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
Proverbs 8:27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
Proverbs 8:28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
Proverbs 8:29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
Proverbs 8:30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
Proverbs 8:31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.
Proverbs 8:32 Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways.
Proverbs 8:33 Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not.
Proverbs 8:34 Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.
Proverbs 8:35 For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the LORD.
Proverbs 8:36 But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.
This would all be the age when Satan was created a cherub, perfect in yada yada yada, till iniquity was found and the thief of Gods Sons by deception caused an end of "an age", but not to all God had created. We see how much it hurt him to "render" the earth formless and void in (which can not be mistaken with NOAHS tiny little flood comparatively speaking, ONE out of a few of the facts being the BLARING on that NO MAN was left on earth during this one. (a speculation on my part is why after this destruction go from having one heaven and one earth to heavens (plural) and earth because all the souls then go "somewhere" waiting to be born in the flesh)
Jeremiah 4:19 My bowels, my bowels! I am pained at my very heart; my heart maketh a noise in me; I cannot hold my peace, because thou hast heard, O my soul, the sound of the trumpet, the alarm of war.
Jeremiah 4:20 Destruction upon destruction is cried; for the whole land is spoiled: suddenly are my tents spoiled, and my curtains in a moment.
Jeremiah 4:21 How long shall I see the standard, and hear the sound of the trumpet?
Jeremiah 4:22 For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.
Jeremiah 4:23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.
Jeremiah 4:24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
Jeremiah 4:25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
Jeremiah 4:26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.
Jeremiah 4:27 For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.
Jeremiah 4:28 For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black; because I have spoken it, I have purposed it, and will not repent, neither will I turn back from it.
Jeremiah 4:29 The whole city shall flee for the noise of the horsemen and bowmen; they shall go into thickets, and climb up upon the rocks: every city shall be forsaken, and not a man dwell therein.
Could you please give the scriptures to your statements so I may go study them? Thank you.
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What????No sir, Cain bloodline was preserved through Ham's wife. His son Cush is what the Jews call the Ethiopians.
Where do you find the info on the wife? I do see Nimrod, and Babylons beginnings. Just wondering if you ever read through 10:10 in Hebrew? "And was the beginning of his kingdom Babylon and Erech and Accad and Calneh in the land of Shinar"No sir, Cain bloodline was preserved through Ham's wife. His son Cush is what the Jews call the Ethiopians.
And when I went to pronounce the last part it came out "where he erects a cad an callin the rest sinners". Just thought it was funny.
As Homo sapiens have been around for nearly 200,000 years, and only circa some 6,000 years ago started inventing the wheel, metalurgy, writing, and other items; I then see these events as the tree of knowledge which man was not to taste.
Absolutely nothing ensued there was a 'creation' before 'Creation', zilch! Nothing! Just wishful human assumption to pollute an attempt superficialize God's word. No one has creation omnipotence other than God Himself.
[Jhn 1:3 NKJV] 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.
Satan couldn't have created anything unless the WORD granted him such a task and power because, "...without Him nothing was made that was made."
[Jhn 1:3 NKJV] 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.
Satan couldn't have created anything unless the WORD granted him such a task and power because, "...without Him nothing was made that was made."
Everything started being invented when man was put in flesh on the earth 8,000 yrs ago. Yes, there are animal bones from 14,000 PLUS years, no human. Dinosaur and ape, yes. Human of any kind, any shape, any story, is all false doctrine, false science, NOT OF GOD.
Does this family tree help. You can click on the various people to learn about them. Cain is not on the same blood line as Noah although both are obviously descended from Adam.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genealogies_in_the_Bible
Cain's lineage was wiped put in the floodThe Kenites were an ancient people living near the land of Canaan around the time of Abraham! Cain was much earlier. He built a city there named after his son who was conceived in Nod. That is what the Bible says. It does NOT say any people were there when he got there.
PS~ Abe was at least a thousand years later than Cain
Not quite and the fact that you deny this truth and red x this truth tells me all I need to know about your approach to the bible and theology.....Noah had three sons and Cain or his lineage were not one of the three and my bible states clearly that every living thing that had breath PERISHED IN THE FLOOD <--this includes Cains lineage!!!
Hahhaahhahaah not hardly..........I suppose you ascribe the farse that Cain was made black when he Killed Abel.......sorry.......your proof does not pass the smell test!No sir, Cain bloodline was preserved through Ham's wife. His son Cush is what the Jews call the Ethiopians.
We do not know who Noah's sons married, nor their lineage. All we know from what Scripture explicitly states is that there were eight human beings on the ark along with the animals that were saved: Noah, his wife (unnamed), his three sons (who are named) and their wives (who are not named).
If one of Naoh's sons' wives was from Cain's line, would that still be true?
There are extra-Biblical writings, but they should be treated as being speculative at best. They also do not agree
The prodigy comes thru the man not the woman.....exactly why Jesus was born of a virgin, and there is not one shed of proof that any of the women were of Cain's line and substantial proof that the line of the righteous kept it in house if you know what I mean........I have studied this out....that is my view that Cain's lineage perished in the flood......and if I was at home (in AU) and had access to my pc I would load the study which led me to that conclusion