Was Adam and Eve a newer creation than genesis 1?

[OneOfHis]

Did you EVEN BOTHER TO read what rhis response was written TO
Am I correct in this is WHAT YOU BElieve?
You think there were dinosaurs on this earth with Adam and Eve? You think the earth was hit by the asteroid and the Ice Age happened sometime in the last 8 thousand years? You don't think all life on the planet went completely extinct?

Dinosaurs were among the created beasts, yes adam was around while they were still common.

The atompshere changed and any dragons or dinosuars that were brought on noahs ark most likely could not continue to live like they used to, just as mans life was shortened from over 900 to under 150 years after the flood.

In time they became less and less common, and for Job to be shown one by God is no reason go believe they didn't exist for over 6000 years😅

 

[DeighAnn]

So, you are saying that there were 2 of EVERY dinosaur on Noahs Ark? They made it through the flood and that they died after the waters receded and they were back on land?

 

[OneOfHis]

I am not sure if it is possible to be more specific in these questions
1. DO you believe that dinosaurs walked the earth at the same time as ADAM and EVE did?
2. Do you believe the Ice Age happened WITHIN the last 8000 years?
3. Do you believe that ALL life on planet earth has ever COMPLETELY perished?

1. Absolutely, 100%.

2.It is impossible for any ice age to have happened before then because the earth was not even made.

3. No. Though I do believe all manner of life on the "face of the earth" were destroyed which were not on noahs ark.

 

[OneOfHis]

So, you are saying that there were 2 of EVERY dinosaur on Noahs Ark? They made it through the flood and that they died after the waters receded and they were back on land?

Who are you speaking to?

I didn't say that, I just believe with much less time they couldn't grow as large. Even many lizards today keep growing till death and shed skin.Those that did get rather large I bet had trouble with the new atomshpere....

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I am not sure if it is possible to be more specific in these questions
1. DO you believe that dinosaurs walked the earth at the same time as ADAM and EVE did?
2. Do you believe the Ice Age happened WITHIN the last 8000 years?
3. Do you believe that ALL life on planet earth has ever COMPLETELY perished?

You responded to a post I sent to Dino, where he responded to a post from PS

Which is why I asked what you me

Please try to stick to the conversation, I have answered those questions twice now. And will not answer them again.

 

[OneOfHis]

So, you are saying that there were 2 of EVERY dinosaur on Noahs Ark? They made it through the flood and that they died after the waters receded and they were back on land?

Do you believe man used to live up to over 900 years?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

So, you are saying that there were 2 of EVERY dinosaur on Noahs Ark? They made it through the flood and that they died after the waters receded and they were back on land?

No,

2 of every kind

Do you understand what the workd “kind” means?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

1. Absolutely, 100%.

2.It is impossible for any ice age to have happened before then because the earth was not even made.

3. No. Though I do believe all manner of life on the "face of the earth" were destroyed which were not on noahs ark.

Amen brother. And I agree I believe this also.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Who are you speaking to?

I didn't say that, I just believe with much less time they couldn't grow as large. Even many lizards today keep growing till death and shed skin.Those that did get rather large I bet had trouble with the new atomshpere....

Yet even then, We find in scripture. Those living post flood KNEW of the behemoth and the leviathan.. Because those creatures walked and flew on the earth post flood

 

[DeighAnn]

1. Absolutely, 100%.

2.It is impossible for any ice age to have happened before then because the earth was not even made.

3. No. Though I do believe all manner of life on the "face of the earth" were destroyed which were not on noahs ark.

Jeremiah 4:23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.
Jeremiah 4:24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
Jeremiah 4:25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
Jeremiah 4:26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.
Jeremiah 4:27 For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.
Jeremiah 4:28 For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black; because I have spoken it, I have purposed it, and will not repent, neither will I turn back from it.

For you to believe this was Noahs Flood you would have to believe that

1. the earth had to be CREATED AGAIN, like it did in Gen 1:1 and 1:2, cause the flood made the earth void, again.
2. the statement THERE WAS NO MAN is just a HUGE mistake
3. the heavens went BLACK for Noahs flood

 

[eternally-gratefull]

We have jonah witnessing snow and Ice. There is your ice age, the ice age did not cover the whole earth.

 

[OneOfHis]

Jeremiah 4:23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.
Jeremiah 4:24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
Jeremiah 4:25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
Jeremiah 4:26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.
Jeremiah 4:27 For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.
Jeremiah 4:28 For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black; because I have spoken it, I have purposed it, and will not repent, neither will I turn back from it.

For you to believe this was Noahs Flood you would have to believe that

1. the earth had to be CREATED AGAIN, like it did in Gen 1:1 and 1:2, cause the flood made the earth void, again. 2. making the statement THERE WAS NO MAN is just a HUGE mistake
3. the heavens went BLACK for Noahs flood

Do not impute beliefs to me or use strawman arguments. Where have I once mentioned jeremiah or said I believe that is speaking of the flood?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Jeremiah 4:23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.
Jeremiah 4:24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
Jeremiah 4:25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
Jeremiah 4:26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.
Jeremiah 4:27 For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.
Jeremiah 4:28 For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black; because I have spoken it, I have purposed it, and will not repent, neither will I turn back from it.

For you to believe this was Noahs Flood you would have to believe that

1. the earth had to be CREATED AGAIN, like it did in Gen 1:1 and 1:2, cause the flood made the earth void, again.
2. the statement THERE WAS NO MAN is just a HUGE mistake
3. the heavens went BLACK for Noahs flood

The prophet is speaking of the future not past. He saw a vision of the future. And he was warning judah she would be punished with these things if she did not repent.

And pS the heavens went BLACK when Jesus died.

The earth was NOT created again.

Gen 1 and 2 is the origional state, the creation out of nothing

The rest of creation shows what God already created in gen 1 and 2, and putting them all together (day, night, starts, life, etc etc,

 

[DeighAnn]

Do not impute beliefs to me or use strawman arguments. Where have I once mentioned jeremiah or said I believe that is speaking of the flood?

Because you say it just started. Which means it all has to fit within that time frame.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Do not impute beliefs to me or use strawman arguments. Where have I once mentioned jeremiah or said I believe that is speaking of the flood?

If is obvious some think they know what we believe. It is sad. And why there can never be any true conversation

 

[OneOfHis]

Because you say it just started. Which means it all has to fit within that time frame.

Where did I say what "just started"?



Do you believe Men used to live up to over 900 years?

 

[DeighAnn]

Where did I say what "just started"?



Do you believe Men used to live up to over 900 years?

I may not have noticed when you jumped into the middle of the conversation, but yes that is what was being discussed. The "earth" being a couple thousand years old. I can't even hardly write it.
I believe the BIBLE, THE WORD of GOD, is WRITTEN by GOD, penned by man. I believe in its original form, it is perfect, without flaw. So yes, I believe it 100 percent, beyond a shadow of a doubt.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I may not have noticed when you jumped into the middle of the conversation, but yes that is what was being discussed. The "earth" being a couple thousand years old. I can't even hardly write it.
I believe the BIBLE, THE WORD of GOD, is WRITTEN by GOD, penned by man. I believe in its original form, it is perfect, without flaw. So yes, I believe it 100 percent, beyond a shadow of a doubt.

You think that makes you sick?

It makes me sick every time I hear people say a billion years ago..

I mean does God need a billion years to do his handy work? Or is he powerful enough to do it is 6 24 hour days?

 

[pottersclay]

However our Salvation can not be replaced or lost. I don't know what happen to those who choose the here and now over riches in glory. But that decision can not be made by accident so I wouldn't call it lost but discarded. The price the Jesus paid for our souls wasn't cheap. The decision is his and his alone.

Calibob been following this thread and would have to caution you on your thinking. Your being robbed on the insights the scriptures give you of God.
It denies the first and very important statement...In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Bringing logic into scripture can be very troublesome.
The Lord said that all his creation was good and very good. The meaning of this is that it would serve his purpose. He had rested on the seventh day which tells us there was no more to be created or re created.
Remember your dealing with God who knows the end from the beginning, who can and has created something out of nothing and has given it purpose.
From Genesis 1 to the end of Revelation God had established all things before the creating of them. People, dates, times and places. All pointing to Jesus. Jesus holds all things together.
Man is not recreated untill he is "born again"....... Jesus said heaven and earth shall pass away but his word shall not pass away.
Paul says behold all things become new. Ecclesiastes tells us everything is old under the sun.
These are just a few insights you have to discredit before giving any credit to your line of thinking.
Scripture tells us Adam was the first man...made from the dust. Jesus is the second Adam conceived from the spirit.
God was not surprised by the fall in the garden for he already had a covering for that.
The only question that remains is why....why us O Lord do you go to the extent you do to save us?? The only possible plasable answer is Love.
Remember all the insights of the dinosaur, prehistoric man, all that grey area is generated by man not God. He wanted us to focus on his leading a more discriptive Genesis 1 found in Genesis 2.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Which is more believable

That species evolved from single celled creatures which would force billions of years of evolution.

Or that God imprinted into each “kind” or “specie” DNA a blueprint for all kinds of variances, and things which would help them cope with changes, which is why even the human specie has things science do not believe they use anymore. But most likely at one time they were very important organs.