Creation of universe

[Noose]

I'm sure that the number is not accurate (13,8 billion years ago), but the common man believes it could be, for the gods of this world have blinded the minds of them which believe in them, them which trie to plagiarize the science of the Most High and Almighty God, but the best of their conceptions in this field is nothing more than foolish conjectures and deceitful theories.

What I must say is that the age of the Earth is much much more than that. I’m sure that the age pointed in your post is the maximum limit that man-made scientific apparatus or measuring equipment is able to measure, so it has nothing to do with the age of the Earth;

For to measure the age of the Earth the scientists need to invent a scientific apparatus more qualified and able to measure beyond of what has been measured to this date, for examaples 20, 50, 100, 500 billion of years. I think that they will never do it for two reasons:

1 - for lack of adequate material and measuring equipment to measure the age of the planet Earth;

2 - They will not have time to do it, the Devil's world will end sooner.

What i meant is that time is consciousness and consciousness can not measure consciousness. The only real thing in this universe is the conscious mind. It means the car that you drive to work daily isn't actually real but it is defined in your mind, once you die, the car will also cease to exist because the definition in your mind will be erased.
Our minds collectively controls the universe because 'Time' is a construct of the conscious mind, without time nothing exists. Therefore, without a conscious mind, nothing exists.

 

[Petercito]

You are talking total nonsense. The universe did not take its present form in 168 earth hours. Yome (Day) means a period of time, and evening/morning mark the beginning and ending of each era.

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יוֹם
yôm
yome
From an unused root meaning to be hot; a day (as the warm hours), whether literally (from sunrise to sunset, or from one sunset to the next), or figuratively (a space of time defined by an associated term), (often used adverbially): - age, + always, + chronicles, continually (-ance), daily, ([birth-], each, to) day, (now a, two) days (agone), + elder, X end, + evening, + (for) ever (-lasting, -more), X full, life, as (so) long as (. . . live), (even) now, + old, + outlived, + perpetually, presently, + remaineth, X required, season, X since, space, then, (process of) time, + as at other times, + in trouble, weather, (as) when, (a, the, within a) while (that), X whole (+ age), (full) year (-ly), + younger.
Total KJV occurrences: 2295

I would hate to be in your shoes then, that is a long working week you have. You must be so tired? It probably explains why you are ignoring the obvious fact that you missed what was written below from the previous post.

the statements in Exodus 20:9-11 & Exodus 31:16-17 that God created everything "in six days," given as the reason Israel was to observe the "seventh day" as the Sabbath. Since the context is clearly about the literal days of the week, these passages make no sense unless the creation account describes literal 24-hour days.

Hmm, so God says to work six days and rest on the sabbath....But six days is an indeterminate amount of time? Yeah that's logical.

Keep working Kid you're going to need that money for a better education.. ''Smile''

 

[Dino246]

What i meant is that time is consciousness and consciousness can not measure consciousness. The only real thing in this universe is the conscious mind. It means the car that you drive to work daily isn't actually real but it is defined in your mind, once you die, the car will also cease to exist because the definition in your mind will be erased.
Our minds collectively controls the universe because 'Time' is a construct of the conscious mind, without time nothing exists. Therefore, without a conscious mind, nothing exists.

New age hogwash. We don't live in a holodeck.

 

[Noose]

New age hogwash. We don't live in a holodeck.

Didn't know it was a new age hogwash but i certainly know what i'm talking about.

 

[PS]

I would hate to be in your shoes then, that is a long working week you have. You must be so tired? It probably explains why you are ignoring the obvious fact that you missed what was written below from the previous post.

the statements in Exodus 20:9-11 & Exodus 31:16-17 that God created everything "in six days," given as the reason Israel was to observe the "seventh day" as the Sabbath. Since the context is clearly about the literal days of the week, these passages make no sense unless the creation account describes literal 24-hour days.

Hmm, so God says to work six days and rest on the sabbath....But six days is an indeterminate amount of time? Yeah that's logical.

Keep working Kid you're going to need that money for a better education.. ''Smile''

The Sabbath is a nonsense as well. The days of the week were not even named until I think Roman times.

You are going on ignore the same as the guy who agrees with you.

 

[PS]

Just to say that science proves the Bible correct in it's use of yome, meaning era or an age. Those who disagree with the correct rendering of the word 'yome' turn the Bible into a fairy tale which it is not. May God preserve us.

Neither did God name the days otherwise the creation account would read:-

And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day Monday. (Gen 1:8 KJV)

 

[PS]

I'm not going to have people laugh at me for thinking I believe the heavens and the earth were created in 144 hours. People who say that make the rest of us look silly, and I'm not standing for it.

 

[Noose]

Just to say that science proves the Bible correct in it's use of yome, meaning era or an age. Those who disagree with the correct rendering of the word 'yome' turn the Bible into a fairy tale which it is not. May God preserve us.

Neither did God name the days otherwise the creation account would read:-

And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day Monday. (Gen 1:8 KJV)

The use of Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday is 'recent'. During creation and the ages that followed, days were only counted 1st to 7th. So your point is out of line.

 

[Noose]

I'm not going to have people laugh at me for thinking I believe the heavens and the earth were created in 144 hours. People who say that make the rest of us look silly, and I'm not standing for it.

Creating the heavens and earth even in 1 sec has never been an issue with an all knowing God but it was done in 6 days precisely for man- coz the whole universe was fashioned in a human heart before being given to the man. The 6 days are with respect to what a man would perceive.

 

[Dino246]

The Sabbath is a nonsense as well. The days of the week were not even named until I think Roman times.

You are going on ignore the same as the guy who agrees with you.

I get to be on your Ignore list? Yay!

Though I can't see your reasoning for putting me there.

 

[Petercito]

The Sabbath is a nonsense as well. The days of the week were not even named until I think Roman times.

You are going on ignore the same as the guy who agrees with you.

The Romans named the days of the week? Yeah in their language. Not in Hebrew. Was the bible written by the Romans? No! Hmm
like I said keep working boy, because you now desperately need that money for ''any education''.

 

[Petercito]

I get to be on your Ignore list? Yay!

Though I can't see your reasoning for putting me there.

Dino mate. The reason is called ''I am a weak person with no character''. That's why you are on that little boys ignore list. Weak people can't handle the truth.

 

[Petercito]

The use of Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday is 'recent'. During creation and the ages that followed, days were only counted 1st to 7th. So your point is out of line.

The Jews count the Days of The Week as Day ''One'' Day ''Two'' etc. The OT was written to Jews who think like Jews. You need to understand the bible from the Jewish way of thinking, not a western way of thinking.
Now the term for ''day'' means '' 24 hour day'' and yes it can mean other things but like I have said before it makes no sense in other passages if it is an indeterminate amount of time. Common sense needs to be used.

 

[Noose]

The Jews count the Days of The Week as Day ''One'' Day ''Two'' etc. The OT was written to Jews who think like Jews. You need to understand the bible from the Jewish way of thinking, not a western way of thinking.
Now the term for ''day'' means '' 24 hour day'' and yes it can mean other things but like I have said before it makes no sense in other passages if it is an indeterminate amount of time. Common sense needs to be used.

Was Adam a Jew? was Noah a Jew? yet since the beginning, the days of the week have been counted as 1st, 2nd......7th and the cycle repeats again. So it wasn't meant for Jews but mankind. And it doesn't matter if a section of mankind decides to give certain names to those days.
True, a day could mean a certain amount of time or generation but the creation days are 6 creation days, each running from an evening to a morning.

 

[Gerry53]

i just read genisis creation timeline whatever you call it.i have a question if god created the moon and sun on the fourth day how did they no when evening and morning actually were?isint sunrise morning and sunset evening.

 

[Nehemiah6]

i just read genisis creation timeline whatever you call it.i have a question if god created the moon and sun on the fourth day how did they no when evening and morning actually were?isint sunrise morning and sunset evening.

There was cosmic light on the first day
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

 

[Nehemiah6]

I'm not going to have people laugh at me for thinking I believe the heavens and the earth were created in 144 hours. People who say that make the rest of us look silly, and I'm not standing for it.

You have a point.

 

[PS]

i just read genisis creation timeline whatever you call it.i have a question if god created the moon and sun on the fourth day how did they no when evening and morning actually were?isint sunrise morning and sunset evening.

There was light and darkness on the first day.
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. (Gen 1:1-5 KJV)

Then we have the sun and moon on the fourth day.

And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. And the evening and the morning were the fourth day. (Gen 1:16-19 KJV)

I take that to mean there was a period of darkness when the dinosaurs etc died out (if they existed at that time). It also reads as though the planets were settling into their orbits. While this was happening, the days and nights would be of varying length. They were also seeing light from the stars on the forth day and as we know it takes millions of years for light to reach the earth, so those particular days must have been millions of years long for the light to become visible on the fourth day. This is why scientists speak in terms of era rather than days. As we know, the Hebrew word yome meaning 'day' simply means a period of time from a few hours to eternity.

 

[Petercito]

Was Adam a Jew? was Noah a Jew? yet since the beginning, the days of the week have been counted as 1st, 2nd......7th and the cycle repeats again. So it wasn't meant for Jews but mankind. And it doesn't matter if a section of mankind decides to give certain names to those days.
True, a day could mean a certain amount of time or generation but the creation days are 6 creation days, each running from an evening to a morning.

It was written by Jews Imbecile. And again if they were not literal days the scriptures in Exodus as quoted before make no sense much like your idiotic evasion of common sense and plain written language. I guess your a believer of evolution and all things random then half wit. “Smiley Face” ; )

 

[Noose]

It was written by Jews Imbecile. And again if they were not literal days the scriptures in Exodus as quoted before make no sense much like your idiotic evasion of common sense and plain written language. I guess your a believer of evolution and all things random then half wit. “Smiley Face” ; )

Written by Jews doesn't mean meant for Jews or only used by Jews. Instructions to the church was also written by Jews but not meant for Judaism or tribal Jews. Read a bible.