Some truth about speaking in tongues, the Holy Ghost, spiritual gifts and 1 Corinthians 14
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How is one called by God's name? Mankind partakes of the spiritual rebirth through his/her choice to be obedient causing the person to be called a child of God. Children receive their father's name. For Jesus said, unless a man is born of water and Spirit he can not enter the kingdom of Heaven.
In submitting to the rebirth experience individual's acquire the name of Jesus' Christ:
"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." Acts 4:9
In submitting to the rebirth experience individual's acquire the name of Jesus' Christ:
"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." Acts 4:9
Everyone who is called by My name,
Whom I have created for My glory;
I have formed him, yes, I have made him.”
My comment is concerning when one acquires God's name. God states in the above scripture that those called by His name have been created and formed by Him.
Scriptures indicating when one receives the name of Jesus:
John 20:31
But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
Acts 2:38
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 8:12
But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
Acts 8:15-16
Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:
(For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
Acts 19:5
When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
1 Cor 1:2
Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:
1 Cor 1:13-16
… were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;
Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.
And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.
1 Cor 6:11
And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
Whom I have created for My glory;
I have formed him, yes, I have made him.”
My comment is concerning when one acquires God's name. God states in the above scripture that those called by His name have been created and formed by Him.
Scriptures indicating when one receives the name of Jesus:
John 20:31
But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
Acts 2:38
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 8:12
But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
Acts 8:15-16
Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:
(For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
Acts 19:5
When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
1 Cor 1:2
Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:
1 Cor 1:13-16
… were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;
Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.
And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.
1 Cor 6:11
And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
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The record only addresses the fact that Philip knew water baptism was necessary and therefore he baptized the eunuch.
Many believe that water baptism was only performed by the apostles to show God had accepted the Gentile and Samaritan nations as well as the Jewish. This scripture offers evidence to the contrary and is a perfect example of the need for all individuals to be water baptized.
There is no record of the eunuch being filled with the Holy Ghost. Surely this is not to imply he never received it or didn't need it. There are many other scriptures that state that the Holy Ghost is required, and does at times happen some time after water baptism as well.(Acts 8:12, 17)
Many believe that water baptism was only performed by the apostles to show God had accepted the Gentile and Samaritan nations as well as the Jewish. This scripture offers evidence to the contrary and is a perfect example of the need for all individuals to be water baptized.
There is no record of the eunuch being filled with the Holy Ghost. Surely this is not to imply he never received it or didn't need it. There are many other scriptures that state that the Holy Ghost is required, and does at times happen some time after water baptism as well.(Acts 8:12, 17)
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God Himself chose to pour His Spirit into the Jews in the upper room and later into the Gentiles in Acts 10:44-48. Speaking in tongues was the evidence of the infilling of God's Spirit in both cases.
The Samaritans who are half Jewish and half Gentile, and the Ephesus disciples received the Holy Ghost both through the laying on of hands by other disciples. The record of the disciples of Ephesus specifies that speaking in tongues occurred. (Acts 19:1-6) Whereas, the Samaritan experience of speaking in tongues is implied. (Acts 8:18)
The bible record clearly shows that after the initial infilling of Jews and Gentiles, individual's received the Holy Ghost through the laying on of hands. Also, Luke 11:9-13 states that if one asks for the gift of the Holy Ghost God will give it in answer to their prayer.
Hope this helps.
The Samaritans who are half Jewish and half Gentile, and the Ephesus disciples received the Holy Ghost both through the laying on of hands by other disciples. The record of the disciples of Ephesus specifies that speaking in tongues occurred. (Acts 19:1-6) Whereas, the Samaritan experience of speaking in tongues is implied. (Acts 8:18)
The bible record clearly shows that after the initial infilling of Jews and Gentiles, individual's received the Holy Ghost through the laying on of hands. Also, Luke 11:9-13 states that if one asks for the gift of the Holy Ghost God will give it in answer to their prayer.
Hope this helps.
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They are described as virgins because they had not gone after other religions. They were religious as Judaism commanded them. they were not ready for the appearance of the Messiah. They were asleep and not seeing the Messiah in their midst. The virgins who were given entrance were alert and expecting the appearance of their promised Messiah.
No one is ever saved by works. The virgins who were given entrance had faith that Messiah would come as promised. They believed the word of God and counted the promises of God to be true.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
No one is ever saved by works. The virgins who were given entrance had faith that Messiah would come as promised. They believed the word of God and counted the promises of God to be true.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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The virgins all woke up--none slept as you suggest. The only difference was that 5 lacked oil and were left behind while the other 5, that had oil, went with the bridegroom:
"And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut."
Matt 25:6-10
"And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut."
Matt 25:6-10
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The gift of ‘languages’ was the fulfillment of Isaiah’s prophecy (Isaiah 28:11-13)
11Very well then, with foreign lips and strange tongues
God will speak to this people,
12to whom he said,
“This is the resting place, let the weary rest”;
and, “This is the place of repose”—
but they would not listen.
13So then, the word of the Lord to them will become:
Do this, do that,
a rule for this, a rule for that;
a little here, a little there—
so that as they go they will fall backward;
they will be injured and snared and captured.
1. It was intended as a final sign to Israel of the impending destruction of Jerusalem which occurred in AD70.
Supernatural ‘spiritual gifts’ were delivered exclusively through the agency of the 12 Apostles
Acts 8v18 When Simon saw that the Spirit was given at the laying on of the apostles’ hands, he offered them money 19 and said, “Give me also this ability so that everyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.”
Other supernatural spiritual gifts were all intended to validate the Apostles’ eyewitness testimony to Jesus’ resurrection. (Mark 16:20; Acts 1:8; Acts 4:33; Heb. 2:3-4)
The circumstantial evidence is consistent with this:
1. Paul had to travel all the way to Rome to impart spiritual gifts to the Romans (Rom. 1:11).
2. Timothy’s spiritual gift was delivered through Paul’s hands: (2 Tim. 1:6).
3. Paul imparted spiritual gifts to the Ephesians (Acts 19:6).
4. There is no case in the NT where people received spiritual gifts apart from the immediate presence of one of the 12 ‘chosen eyewitnesses.’
Paul’s statement that supernatural spiritual gifts would cease to be given (1 Cor. 13:8-13).
1. Love never ‘expires’ (ἐκπίπτει {ek-pip’-to} – lit. to “fall off,” met. “fail or expire”)
2. Prophecies will be ‘cancelled’ (καταργηθήσεται {kat-ar-geh’-o} future, passive voice – lit. “will be cancelled”).
3. Tongues (languages) will ‘cease of itself’ (παύσονται {pow’-o} future, middle voice – “cease of itself.”
4. Knowledge (by direct revelation) will ‘(καταργηθήσεται {kat-ar-geh’-o} future, passive voice – lit. “will be cancelled”).
Other gifts (like healing) may have continued until the deaths of the recipients, as late as approx. AD 180
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In simple terms you're welcome to stay on that topic as long as you like.
I'll try one more time to convey a few basic concepts on this particular topic, then I intend to move on to answering the 2nd half of what I'd promised the room.
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I was asking God about something that I couldn't find directly stated in the bible. Basically, I could see a list of purposes similar to the ones you have been providing, but not a statement of singular purpose that answered the question I was asking. THAT is why I needed to ask. And to be further specific, i was asking about the purpose from man's perspective. (in other words, not what God was going to get out of it, but what man is).
So, when a man asks "What is the purpose of this life?" (Or to say it in more common but less accurate wording "Why am i here?") The answer = "To choose".
I'm not attempting to provide a direct Bible quote stating it because , again, I was asking the truth about a topic not stated verbatim in the bible.
I'm not flooding the thread with scriptures because 1) the examples of man being given choice and even commanded to choose are throughout the bible (and you yourself recently added choice to your list of purposes) and 1a) Berean-ish people will find them as they search. 2) they wouldn't be the verbatim statement of question/answer that you seem to require and I've already acknowledged likely isn't verbatim quotable and 3) I don't see how posting 20, 50 or 100 biblical references to man having choice would change your understanding.
Additional information:
There are some related scriptures that pretty much guarantee you won't understand... unless you decide to adjust yourself to them in the positive way. They are:
Luke 16:10 KJV
He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much.
John 9:40-41 KJV
And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also? [41] Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.
Proverbs 15:33 KJV
...before honour is humility.
All the Pharisees had to do in order to be freed from the consequences of their blindness was to admit they had it. but their pride (need to be right) kept them from admitting any fault.
The same has been happening here. When I showed you the error in thinking that the purpose of man's life on earth was "to love Him with all our heart, mind, soul and body" did you admit any error? Not so far as I've seen. Why? because of Luke 16:10 and the fact that when a least thing (changing a plural to a singular) was pointed out to you, you also chose to avoid admitting any error.
Out of respect, I'm not going to post a response to posting #1759 unless you specifically request that I do.
Continually, Love in Jesus,
Kelby
I'll try one more time to convey a few basic concepts on this particular topic, then I intend to move on to answering the 2nd half of what I'd promised the room.
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I was asking God about something that I couldn't find directly stated in the bible. Basically, I could see a list of purposes similar to the ones you have been providing, but not a statement of singular purpose that answered the question I was asking. THAT is why I needed to ask. And to be further specific, i was asking about the purpose from man's perspective. (in other words, not what God was going to get out of it, but what man is).
So, when a man asks "What is the purpose of this life?" (Or to say it in more common but less accurate wording "Why am i here?") The answer = "To choose".
I'm not attempting to provide a direct Bible quote stating it because , again, I was asking the truth about a topic not stated verbatim in the bible.
I'm not flooding the thread with scriptures because 1) the examples of man being given choice and even commanded to choose are throughout the bible (and you yourself recently added choice to your list of purposes) and 1a) Berean-ish people will find them as they search. 2) they wouldn't be the verbatim statement of question/answer that you seem to require and I've already acknowledged likely isn't verbatim quotable and 3) I don't see how posting 20, 50 or 100 biblical references to man having choice would change your understanding.
Additional information:
There are some related scriptures that pretty much guarantee you won't understand... unless you decide to adjust yourself to them in the positive way. They are:
Luke 16:10 KJV
He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much.
John 9:40-41 KJV
And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also? [41] Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.
Proverbs 15:33 KJV
...before honour is humility.
All the Pharisees had to do in order to be freed from the consequences of their blindness was to admit they had it. but their pride (need to be right) kept them from admitting any fault.
The same has been happening here. When I showed you the error in thinking that the purpose of man's life on earth was "to love Him with all our heart, mind, soul and body" did you admit any error? Not so far as I've seen. Why? because of Luke 16:10 and the fact that when a least thing (changing a plural to a singular) was pointed out to you, you also chose to avoid admitting any error.
Out of respect, I'm not going to post a response to posting #1759 unless you specifically request that I do.
Continually, Love in Jesus,
Kelby
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