Why Christians get a bad rap amongst the Jews...(an example)

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eternally-gratefull

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yellowcanary said:
Animal sacrifices will never be seen again in Christ's kingdom ... nor should they be. Jesus Christ set aside the first (OT animal sacrifices for sins) to establish the second (His perfect once and for all sacrifice of Himself).
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No one would argue this point, which makes it a ridiculous argument to begin with.

Prophesy saying these things will happen again is not the same as saying God demands and says they must be done again, for his kingdom.

Prophesy is looking into the future and seeing events which will happen and write those things down.

Not to mention, the blood of bulls and goats never took away sin to begin with, So no one was ever made right with God by any sacrifice in any temple. So again, Saying it can;t happen because God will nto allow it or whatever is an illogical argument.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
The parable explained spiritual truths not about these people

The truth is the Wheat and tares must grow together. And they will until the end, when God seperates the two. One to be burned, the other to have eternal life.

It was not so much about the people
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Does not matter....the parable represented an actual event and the players of that event.... <---this is literal and can be taken literal....
 
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eternally-gratefull

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dcontroversal said:
Does not matter....the parable represented an actual event and the players of that event.... <---this is literal and can be taken literal....
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Actually it spoke of a period of time which is unknown. And explained why he did not cut the wheat and seperate them from the tares during that time.

His focus was not on the event, if you take the focus literally just on the event, you miss the whole point of what Jesus was trying to say.
 
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This guy was led by the HS for 30 years to teach dispensationalism, then the HS led him elsewhere, funny how that works.

Bit long but gets interesting later on.


 
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eternally-gratefull

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crossnote said:
Nevertheless it takes the Holy Spirit to convict a person of the truth of His Word, which was my original point.
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No argument there bro
 
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azamzimtoti said:
This guy was led by the HS for 30 years to teach dispensationalism, then the HS led him elsewhere, funny how that works.

Bit long but gets interesting later on.


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Respects to Pastor Baldwin, those that persecute him ...shame.
 
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azamzimtoti said:
This guy was led by the HS for 30 years to teach dispensationalism, then the HS led him elsewhere, funny how that works.

Bit long but gets interesting later on.


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HS led him?

Says who?

I know people who have been amill for many years. And repented to become pre millenial. Does that prove anything?

lets stick to the word of God. Not what people say, thats the problem, we have to many followers of men and not followers of God.
 
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UnderGrace said:
Are you trying to tell me you have been through what this man has been through?
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Are you trying to tell me no one who believes as I do has ever went through what this man went through? (Remember, before rome fell. A man who believed as I do would be tortured and killed for being a heretic)

I just ask, because I think it is kind of rude to make this a means to prove ones faith. It does not matter what side you are on, it is alittle arrogant. And is nothing but a “slam’ against those who believe different.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Are you trying to tell me no one who believes as I do has ever went through what this man went through? (Remember, before rome fell. A man who believed as I do would be tortured and killed for being a heretic)

I just ask, because I think it is kind of rude to make this a means to prove ones faith. It does not matter what side you are on, it is alittle arrogant. And is nothing but a “slam’ against those who believe different.
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Okay if you say so.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
And is nothing but a “slam’ against those who believe different.
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What he is saying is that he had numerous disagreements with folks who were not "dispensationalists", and in all their disagreements that there had been no animus towards him. When he started preaching the errors of dispensationalists the "animus" came from the dispensationalists.
 
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azamzimtoti said:
What he is saying that is he had numerous disagreements with folks who were not "dispensationalists", and in all their disagreements that had been no animus towards him. When he started preaching the errors of dispensationalists the "animus" came from the dispensationalists.
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Now, one would know this if they had watched the video :unsure:

You see it always the same story, those I agree with, you had better not come against .... But ......those who disagree with me are merely men.

I respect Pastor Baldwin, a very high profile pastor with deep connection with the evangelical community in the U.S. for many years for questioning the prevailing narrative on a public platform.
 
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azamzimtoti said:
What he is saying is that he had numerous disagreements with folks who were not "dispensationalists", and in all their disagreements that there had been no animus towards him. When he started preaching the errors of dispensationalists the "animus" came from the dispensationalists.
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Hang around here

It is the opposite.

I have been told I am going to hell because I am a dispensationalist. In fact, if you can. Look at some of the dispensation vs amill view a few years ago. You will see this alot.. (alot of people got banned over these things)

Once again,

Trying to use experience of one person to support your view is faulty at best. People from both sides have stories.

Again, There was a time the catholic church would have considered me a heretic punishable by up to death for my view.

Does that mean I got my view from the HS or it is right?

Of course not, and if i used that as my reasoning I would be alittle foolish would I not?
 
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UnderGrace said:
Now, one would know this if they had watched the video :unsure:

You see it always the same story, those I agree with, you had better not come against .... But ......those who disagree with me are merely men.

I respect Pastor Baldwin, a very high profile pastor with deep connection with the evangelical community in the U.S. for many years for questioning the prevailing narrative on a public platform.
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It goes both ways

His persecution does not prove he is right, any more than the people who have been persecuted for my belief proves I am right

Persecuation of anyone for this topic alone on either side is actually quite foolsih,

And again, You missed the huge attacks from amill against anything premill in the past.. It got outright nasty.
 
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