I saw the post that YOU QUOTED which you said was the one where he accused you. And guess what? THERE was no accusation. Only a reference on your stance (position) on the matter.
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I saw the post that YOU QUOTED which you said was the one where he accused you. And guess what? THERE was no accusation. Only a reference on your stance (position) on the matter.
John 15:2- Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
We abide in Jesus. We bear fruit. Father purges us. We bear more fruit. Process continues until we are perfected, (basically when Jesus returns is when we are perfected)
You don't have to be mature to bear fruit. You don't have to have perfected fruit to bear fruit.
John 15:2- Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
Obviously, the believer is bearing fruit and then the Father purges him or her to bear more fruit, and the process is continued all the days of their lives (or should be)
Andrew began to bear fruit the day he met Jesus
Philip began to bear fruit the day he met Jesus
The Samaritan began to bear fruit the day she met Jesus
John 15:2- Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
no one here saying that a believer is not supposed to bear fruit.
judgemental fruit checkers like you want to time how long with a stop watch.
judgemental fruit checkers like you want to time how long with a stop watch.
I don't know what this has to do with the statement YOU MADE that "it takes a period of growth and maturity to bear fruit"
Now you shift the goalposts to being perfected. Yet a person can bear fruit without being perfected.
John 15:2- Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
So we bear fruit as we are being perfected.
A common and repeated false accusation and lie by you, but never substantiated with a post number, though I've asked you to provide post number several times.
you prove it with most of your posts. it's pretty much all you talk about.
here you go. unprompted, you just throw this out there.
Come on GB, I post a lot, and if most of my posts prove it you should be able to find one example in a couple minutes. sorry I had the wrong time on before. it stands at 4 minutes and coundting.
UNPROMPTED? LOL, more evidence that you don't read the posts. Look at the post I was replying to and the post that the person I was replying to was replying to.
. No wonder you're so confused. You read posts out of context, ignoring what came immedietely before to prompt them. Do you read the Bible in this manner?I already did. and, as far as that goes, it is the general tone and theme of what you say ( obsess over) that I refer to, not just specific posts.
all right, just keep pretending that you are not a judgemental fruit checker, but do not falsely accuse me of providing no evidence of your own words.UNPROMPTED? LOL, more evidence that you don't read the posts. Look at the post I was replying to and the post that the person I was replying to was replying to.
Oh, you mean that was your evidence? That is LAUGHABLE. Look at the quote.
I think whether or not a new Christian is able to bear fruit is a very important issue.
Is able is not the same as does. So how is that trying to assert how long it takes to bear fruit? Ability does not necessarily mean that what one is able to do will be performed. This is the same error you have been making from the beginning. Confusing necessity with contingency.
I think whether or not a new Christian is able to bear fruit is a very important issue.
Is able is not the same as does. So how is that trying to assert how long it takes to bear fruit? Ability does not necessarily mean that what one is able to do will be performed. This is the same error you have been making from the beginning. Confusing necessity with contingency.
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Jimmy needed a fruit inspector to inspect his apples. So he called Budman
Jimmy- I need someone to inspect my apples.
Budman- Ok, I charge 10 dollars a bushel. How many bushels do you have?
Jimmy- That sounds fair. I have ten bushels
Budman- OK. Every apple that has maggots on it is bad. That will be 100 dollars. Do you want to pay over the phone?
Jimmy needed a fruit inspector to inspect his apples. So he called Budman
Jimmy- I need someone to inspect my apples.
Budman- Ok, I charge 10 dollars a bushel. How many bushels do you have?
Jimmy- That sounds fair. I have ten bushels
Budman- OK. Every apple that has maggots on it is bad. That will be 100 dollars. Do you want to pay over the phone?
Curious if your name came up in the past week, or if you decided it was time again to dredge up this issue you like to bash DC with.
I honestly don't know which.
That is all you have. That is a LAUGHABLE example of evidence for your claim. Look at the quote.
I think whether or not a new Christian is able to bear fruit is a very important issue.
Is able is not the same as does. So how is that trying to assert how long it takes to bear fruit? Ability does not necessarily mean that what one is able to do will be performed. This is the same error you have been making from the beginning. Confusing necessity with contingency.