The Basics of Speaking in Tongues

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stonesoffire

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I would think a person would investigate as to why would God accredit the sign with those who refuse to hear the word of God as a law founded in Isaiah 28 .Which is clear and the theme of the doctrine. .The same one that confirmed it many years later (1 Corinthians 14) .Why avoid looking at the foundation avoid the outcome of the sign . And yet for all that make tongues prophecy (God's word) without effect by the oral tradition of men.

From my experience those who look to confirm the sign as being filled with the Holy Spirit simply are turning things as if things of God where loosed from earth confirming they were heard on high. It is why the doctrine was founded men refused to believe prophecy .

For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: For with stammering lips (mocking lips) and another tongue will he speak to this people. To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear. But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken. Wherefore hear the word of the Lord, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem. Isaiah 28.10-12

In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord.Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.! Corinthians 14:21-22

Yet for all that they will keep this oral tradition they call a sign gift as if we walked by sight to begin with which is actually a curse they have named tongues also .Two different doctrines apposing each other .The doctrine of God as it is written and those who seek after a signs and wonders gospel as a oral tradition of men

It makes the tradition of God without effect.

You mash up the scriptures in Isaiah something dreadful,

God is speaking to those who reject His grace. Who make the sabbath rest yet a day, rather than the day God gives spiritual rest to His people. The Spirit. In the Spirit, speaking in the Spirit, walking in Spirit. Spiritual people in His image for God is Spirit.


This is the sabbath rest of God:

9 To whom will he teach knowledge, and to whom will he explain the message? To children just weaned from milk? To those just taken from the breast?


10 For it is: "Do this and do that, do this and do that, Line upon line, line upon line, a little here, a little there."


11 Very well, then, by strange lips and foreign tongues the LORD will speak to this people


12 to whom he said, "This is the resting place, so give rest to the weary"' and "This is the place of repose"—but they would not listen.


13 So, then, the message from the LORD to them will become: "Do this and do that, do this and do that, line upon line, line upon line, a little here, a little there," so that they will go, but fall backward, and be injured, snared, and captured.


The sabbath rest of God when we cease the natural man and become Spirit.

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8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.


9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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The mod did do such and such The mod assumed somethign was insinuated which I never said, and instead of getting confirmation (at the very least) did what he always does. And assumes things that are not true..

And I am still calling you out. And not just here in this thread! God as my witness!
news flash dude

God witnesses everything but His mercies are new every morning

and He also judges the hearts of all

He is not your personal witness

of course with your ego......:rolleyes:
 
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eternally-gratefull

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that's the deal

he and a few others here, have got people banned by this method

loose it and he will report you

it stinks quite frankly

this has not happened in awhile, but it was happening regularly some time back...
Excuse me, would you like to put that up and prove your accusations?

Because I will get robo-op here right here and right now to show how I have reported very few people at all. And no one has been banned because of anything I have ever reported them on. People get banned BECAUSE THEY BREAK THE RULES! (It is a shame you think leaders of this chatroom can be persuaded to ban people who have not broken the rules. Because people report them)
 
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eternally-gratefull

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news flash dude

God witnesses everything but His mercies are new every morning

and He also judges the hearts of all

He is not your personal witness

of course with your ego......:rolleyes:
Oh I am scared.

Since you will not put me on ignore. I will do what I should have done awhile ago

You want to enable people to continue in sin, feel free..
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Excuse me, would you like to put that up and prove your accusations?

Because I will get robo-op here right here and right now to show how I have reported very few people at all. And no one has been banned because of anything I have ever reported them on. Peopl eget banned BECAUSE THEY BREAK THE RULES! (It is a shame you think leaders of this chatroom can be persuaded to ban people who have not broken the rules.

can't

the banned folks are no longer here
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Oh I am scared.

Since you will not put me on ignore. I will do what I should have done awhile ago

You want to enable people to continue in sin, feel free..

oh you just say that to everyone sooner or later

you should be scared

you are totally blind and say you see
 

CS1

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that's the deal

he and a few others here, have got people banned by this method

loose it and he will report you

it stinks quite frankly

this has not happened in a while, but it was happening regularly some time back...

yep he will send many reports as I have first-hand knowledge then expect a mod to ban you in a New York minute. while trying to get other to say thing offensive. then send a message to admin about you. Yet blinded by pride they don't see where i have said I could be wrong they just jump on you because they saw you are supportive of tongues. They are bullies and they need to go.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I did I see EG
No you dont

You see what you want to see.

Its all good. I am done, Continue on thinking you are innocent..

I never claimed to be innocent..
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Excuse me, would you like to put that up and prove your accusations?

Because I will get robo-op here right here and right now to show how I have reported very few people at all. And no one has been banned because of anything I have ever reported them on. People get banned BECAUSE THEY BREAK THE RULES! (It is a shame you think leaders of this chatroom can be persuaded to ban people who have not broken the rules. Because people report them)

how 'bout I beat you to it?

this is what you do

do you actually think people cannot see what you do? threatening to get the owner of the site to get your 6 ?

THAT is what you do!

thanks for proving my point...but it's sad how you operate
 
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eternally-gratefull

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yep he will send many reports as I have first-hand knowledge then expect a mod to ban you in a New York minute. while trying to get other to say thing offensive. then send a message to admin about you. Yet blinded by pride they don't see where i have said I could be wrong they just jump on you because they saw you are supportive of tongues. They are bullies and they need to go.
Oh. How many reports have i made..

I mean realy. Do you all want me to get robo-op involved here?


In fact. Forget it, I am emailing him right now.. You false accusations are about to come to a head dude!
 
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UnderGrace

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Gifts are for a purpose.

When has the gift of tongues occurred in recent times?

Is there documented evidence somewhere?

Ok everyone NOW i have my proof for EG.
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EG said " I have seen tongues used in the NT, we have wintess to them, I have also seen prophesy all through scrioture. We again see proof of them. Just because they happened then does nto mean they happen today. And what I have witnessed looks NOTHING like what was happening back then.

you will find the context to my comment with post #403
This is the Proof that I said the following in context to EG who said "what is in Red.

People you be the judge is his comments are nor saying they gifts do not happen today. I then said :

in post410
that is your presupposition.

I am not in any way able to speak for all Church or even the many on the gifts of the Holy Spirit, what I am able to do is prove that Gifts of the Holy Spirit found in 1cor 12 thru 14 have not been done away with. So your attempt to over reach and assume I am all knowing was an error on your part.

EG from post 403
when you say "I have seen tongues used in the NT, we have wintess to them, I have also seen prophesy all through scrioture. We again see proof of them. Just because they happened then does nto mean they happen today."
CS1
"Your comment is opinionated and you did not even use one verse to support your claim. "

Now you are a liar too. and falsely accusing me read and weep.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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yep he will send many reports as I have first-hand knowledge then expect a mod to ban you in a New York minute. while trying to get other to say thing offensive. then send a message to admin about you. Yet blinded by pride they don't see where i have said I could be wrong they just jump on you because they saw you are supportive of tongues. They are bullies and they need to go.

I know and then he denies it

I know for a fact he has had a hand in getting people banned

I've heard from a few people who have been banned by people...EG included...using that tactic

but I have seen it myself

it is way past time this sort of abuse of the report button is stopped. I report stuff now and then myself but not in the hopes of getting someone booted...unless they are terribly abusive

frankly, I have never seen a site as long-suffering with people who are way out of place as this site is

I have come to respect that though. we all have bad days...but when a person has nothing but bad days, maybe they need to be spoken to
 

CS1

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Thank you to all, those here who agree or disagree with the thread topic. i ask you all to please look at my first post #32.

from post 35 is the second rude comment. my second post which was all hints to those you will see engaging with a Mod who made comments after they were:

rude.
insulting
mocking
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I too engaged just to see if they would even care one was a mod. NOPE. I do not have to stop.
 

stonesoffire

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We were done along time ago dude. You have already proved you will go to ALL lengths and stoop to any low to make sure anyone who disagrees with you is put in their place.

You still can not PROVE the tongues spoken of in 1 cor 12 and 14 is the stuff we see in many holy roller churches today.

And what you just posted does not prove anything.
Did you yourself actually see these things in a church EG? Or on tv?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Did you yourself actually see these things in a church EG? Or on tv?
I have seen them in a few churches, and I saw them in my aunt’s church.

And yes, also on TV, but sis, those are real churches..I also know like many churches, their are people who go all out (like those churches) and people who have peaceful not so out there church services where all the stuff does not happen.

I am not saying this happens in your church, if you think I was. Forgive me.. Its been prety heated in here today.
 

CS1

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Oh. How many reports have i made..

I mean realy. Do you all want me to get robo-op involved here?

In fact. Forget it, I am emailing him right now.. You false accusations are about to come to a head dude!
I have already contacted HIm so you have no authority here sir, you cannot cause fear in me My long account of fairness and low banning is self-evident by all. You do not have the site admin or owner in your pocket that tactic won't work with me. This thread will be closed and you sir have been recommended for banning as will all those who openly disrespect any mod.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Thank you to all, those here who agree or disagree with the thread topic. i ask you all to please look at my first post #32.

from post 35 is the second rude comment. my second post which was all hints to those you will see engaging with a Mod who made comments after they were:

rude.
insulting
mocking
.
I too engaged just to see if they would even care one was a mod. NOPE. I do not have to stop.

I went back and read those posts

it's always like that with the subject of tongues

no respect

it would be nice to be able to chat with others of like mind instead of dealing with people who jump on you and tell you that you either have a demon or you are wrong and then be given scripture that has nothing to even do with speaking in tongues
or be told that the perfect has come so tongues are no longer given
 
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