A day in earth

Noose · Mar 15, 2019

The word of God is not the heart of a man, it resides in the heart of a man.

Ecc 3:9 What does the worker gain from his toil? 10I have seen the burden that God has laid on men to occupy them.11He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the hearts of men, yet they cannot fathom the work God has done from beginning to end.

Last time i checked, only the word of God is eternal because it is God.

Out of the abundance in the heart the tongue/mouth speaketh.

The heart of a man is not a place, it is consciousness and consciousness is greatly connected to thoughts, thoughts that are not actualized (spoken or done), thoughts are the intentions.
The whole universe is nothing more than a thought which is put in a man. If a man corrupts it, the whole universe is corrupted, the reason sin and their death came into the world through one man. And through man, the whole world is saved.

PS · Mar 15, 2019

The Old Testament Hebrew concept of time is different from ours. We see time as being linear. The Hebrews see time as a season or an event of any duration.

Ecc 3:1-8 KJV
(1) To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
(2) A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
(3) A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
(4) A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
(5) A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
(6) A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
(7) A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
(8) A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.

The days when the Judges ruled is not to be taken literally as several 24 hour days, but as a period of 400 years.

The day of judgement may not be of 24 hours duration, but an event over a unspecified period of time.

Dino246 · Mar 15, 2019

PS said:

The Old Testament Hebrew concept of time is different from ours. We see time as being linear. The Hebrews see time as a season or an event of any duration.

Ecc 3:1-8 KJV
(1) To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
(2) A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
(3) A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
(4) A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
(5) A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
(6) A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
(7) A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
(8) A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.

The days when the Judges ruled is not to be taken literally as several 24 hour days, but as a period of 400 years.

The day of judgement may not be of 24 hours duration, but an event over a unspecified period of time.

I don't see that you have supported your assertion adequately. Your examples use "time" and "days", not "day". There's nothing to suggest their concept of time is any different from ours.

KnowMe · Mar 15, 2019

Noose said:

Nope. You are only a hired hand whom God has put a program called life (truth) and that life dictates the universe including your own flesh because it is part of the universe. In short, the universe is a thought which is truth but has taken a detour to lies because he heart of man is wicked/evil. Truth stands forever but a lie doesn't, it decays or causes decay (death). So God has a plan, from the beginning, He has chosen some people through which the universe will be salvaged.

Rom 8:
18I consider that our present sufferings are not comparable to the glory that will be revealed in us. 19The creation waits in eager expectation for the revelation of the sons of God. 20For the creation was subjected to futility, not by its own will, but because of the One who subjected it, in hope 21that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God.

22We know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until the present time. 23Not only that, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. 24For in this hope we were saved; but hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what he can already see? 25But if we hope for what we do not yet see, we wait for it patiently.

Isa 65:
17For behold, I will create
new heavens and a new earth.
The former things will not be remembered,
nor will they come to mind.
18But be glad and rejoice forever
in what I create;
for I will create Jerusalem to be a joy
and its people to be a delight.

Do you even understand what is being said in Isaiah? God says He will create new heavens and new earth, how? by creating Jerusalem to be a joy and its people a delight. Just as it was in the beginning, He will put truth into the hearts of the people and that's how the new heavens and new earth are found and shall live forever.

And God just like a scientist, will put this (truth) to test for a 1000 years (the millennium) to break the initial curse that man (Adam) had caused when he lost the truth and therefore could not live 1000 years +. This is how death is overcome and thrown in hades.

I agree with you, though I’m not sure about something is a lie? and said nope to what and I’m a hired hand?

Nehemiah6 · Mar 15, 2019

User46952 said:

Your point being???

Bingo · Mar 15, 2019

"Why?...We humans have a cognitive nature, of examining 'things' in our world.
The Bible being 'inspired' in another time of 'One' possessing the three O's, shall be
considered out of the human element. Being reminded, but often ignored...there are
things not meant to understand...efforts to pursue 'why' leaves unanswered questions,
likely never to be known by a human...for here is where, acceptance, faith and trust in God
shall be for those of us that understand, our responsibility is to strive to apply God's
'principles' in our life, here in the now...this being a fulltime endeavor, is it not."
'Praise God'

PS · Mar 15, 2019

Dino246 said:

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Not a problem, it is a difficult subject.

Just let me say we cannot touch time, we cannot smell time, we cannot see time, etc. Neither can time do anything. Time of itself is useless, it is simply a measurement. That to my mind is why there is no Hebrew word I know of for time. What we have are phrases like “In the beginning....” and “from the beginning of the creation, Male and female made he them.” Ruth and Naomi arrived in Bethlehem at the beginning of the barley harvest (Ruth 1:22). There was a time when Solomon was old, etc. No mention of time, but when time is relevant like the flood, then it is measured in days.

These are just my rather inconsequential thoughts as I was thinking about the days of creation, with each day being a marker rather than an actual measurement of duration. I feel it is not the Bible that tells us each stage of creation lasted 24 hours, but rather it is us who assume it. Perhaps we ought not to add to scripture?

Anyway this is what occurred to me, and it is not something I shall pursue. God bless.

Chester · Mar 15, 2019

Dino246 said:

Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life"

Jesus is truth
Jesus is God
thus this means God is truth

By the rules of English, the statement can be reversed, and thus "truth is God",

But you are right that to reverse the statement "truth is God" is probably not "correct" - it can lead to wrong conclusions.

posthuman · Mar 16, 2019

Chester said:

not all functions have inverses

((rules of math))

it may be significant here that He says "I AM The Truth" -- not just 'truth'

posthuman · Mar 16, 2019

posthuman said:

@Chester

for example

√ 4 = 2

is false. not because 2² ≠ 4
((because it does))
but because it is also true that

(-2)² = 4

the correct equation is

√ 4 = {-2, 2}

so the function x² doesn't have an unique inverse; it's not 1:1

garee · Mar 16, 2019

User46952 said:

LOL Five and a half on the other side.

garee · Mar 16, 2019

dcontroversal said:

The word day is not neutral .It like all words has a meaning attached to it or it could not be used as a source of spiritual truth. Same with words like twenty four, and twelve they have meaning attached to them . Twelve, the fulness of what ever is in view .

Twelve hours of day light + twelve hours of night = one day...……... twenty four hours = one day

John 11:9Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world.

In other word twelves hours of daylight in a day. and also twelve our of darkness in a day.

God designed light to represent it is good as a blessing and night darkness to represent evil.

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

It was not until after the first three days that without the temporal source of the light of the Sun of reflection of the moon was used as temporal time keepers . God formed light the represent peace and created darkness to represent evil darkness. Day four, forty eight hours he switched on the switch.

4 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.And the evening and the morning were the fourth day. Genesis 1:15-19

In the new order the glory of God will be the light and the Lamb is the light thereof. There shall be no night there

And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass. And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.Revelation21: 21-23

dcontroversal · Mar 16, 2019

garee said:

The word day is not neutral .It like all words has a meaning attached to it or it could not be used as a source of spiritual truth. Same with words like twenty four, and twelve they have meaning attached to them . Twelve, the fulness of what ever is in view .

Twelve hours of day light + twelve hours of night = one day...……... twenty four hours = one day

John 11:9Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world.

In other word twelves hours of daylight in a day. and also twelve our of darkness in a day.

God designed light to represent it is good as a blessing and night darkness to represent evil.

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

It was not until after the first three days that without the temporal source of the light of the Sun of reflection of the moon was used as temporal time keepers . God formed light the represent peace and created darkness to represent evil darkness. Day four, forty eight hours he switched on the switch.

4 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.And the evening and the morning were the fourth day. Genesis 1:15-19

In the new order the glory of God will be the light and the Lamb is the light thereof. There shall be no night there

And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass. And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.Revelation21: 21-23

Disagree....was defined by evening and morning and my post stands...........God is clear...with him a day can be

a. 1000 years
b. Watch in the night 3 hours
c. As but yesterday

KnowMe · Mar 17, 2019

garee said:

The word day is not neutral .It like all words has a meaning attached to it or it could not be used as a source of spiritual truth. Same with words like twenty four, and twelve they have meaning attached to them . Twelve, the fulness of what ever is in view .

Twelve hours of day light + twelve hours of night = one day...……... twenty four hours = one day

John 11:9Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world.

In other word twelves hours of daylight in a day. and also twelve our of darkness in a day.

God designed light to represent it is good as a blessing and night darkness to represent evil.

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

It was not until after the first three days that without the temporal source of the light of the Sun of reflection of the moon was used as temporal time keepers . God formed light the represent peace and created darkness to represent evil darkness. Day four, forty eight hours he switched on the switch.

4 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.And the evening and the morning were the fourth day. Genesis 1:15-19

In the new order the glory of God will be the light and the Lamb is the light thereof. There shall be no night there

And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass. And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.Revelation21: 21-23

but there are many many times when there is no 12 hours in a day, day and night hours are always changing by the minute each day either longer than twelve hours or shorter. there is only 2 days out of 365 days that actually has 12 hours of day and 12 hours of night.

garee · Mar 17, 2019

KnowMe said:

I think night is not measured by darkness alone or light depending where one lives.. Could be 11.9% 11. 2% or six months of darkness to represent evil and 6 of light to represent peace. . .but a day of darkness and light is 24 hours . Twelve set aside to represent peace and twelve set aside as holy to represent evil.

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

On the forth day he turned on the switch beginning the ticking of temporal time clock. In the new heaven and earth the Sun and the Moon the two temporal time keepers will be under the feet of His bride there will be no night forever more.

And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. .revelation 21: 22-25

KnowMe · Mar 17, 2019

garee said:

thanks for posting couple of things you posted got me pondering, the people back then didn’t have modern time keeping minutes and second etc. a hour was not always sixty minutes. I’ve learned twilight and dawn aka morning and evening was a period of time equal to a bible mile. the twelve hour part of a day started with the sun breaking the horizon not at first light and the night started when the first 3 stars appeared after the sun went below the horizon these were watches in the night. the ancient people didn’t have away to measure the 18 minutes or so after sun down too complete darkness nor anything to measure in the morning at first light. I think the Egyptians and Babylonians are credited with the invention of minutes and second I think.

But I think that is a important factor to know about the morning and evening of a day the 36 minutes that the very ancient people didn’t know how to calculate the time thus mentioning like that and there was morning and evening twilight and dawn the unknown time frame way back when.

the sun the moon and stars were used to tell time, the Polaris star. is a tool to use to tell time at night as well.

I don’t think Jesus was pointing to sun and moon about time in general but the Jewish clock was being used as a reference.

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