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posthuman,

Detonating a nuclear bomb at an altitude that is claimed to be over a sphere, not only is able to hide how high it really occurred (it happened much lower), not having to give directions to the location that the bomb exploded over land, also very much hides the deception.
 

tanakh

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Belief in a flat earth stems from a failure to understand that God communicated his message in a language and level that people
receiving it could understand and that the truth contained in it is spiritual not necessarily factual in every case. If he had written the Bible today he would take our present knowledge about the world into account.
 
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#83
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1

Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. Hebrews 13:8
 
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My brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ, every place in the world is given a latitude and longitude, in the lying system of latitude and longitude called the GPS; or Global Positioning System. That position is given it’s coordinates (latitude and longitude) because of how the exact same stars pass over them (latitude), and what time they pass over (longitude [in a sidereal day for the stars]). Solar noon for every place in the world, in the lying system of GPS, is the exact moment you can draw a perpendicular line through the course of the sun (through the actual middle of the sun); as it appears (it’s whole course line [from when it is first seen on the horizon, until it is last seen on the horizon], directly dividing it) in the sky above, to point to exactly where the geographical North Pole and geographical South Pole are from you.

The only problem with that, is that the sun rises and goes down above the world over the south; and then continues on through it’s chamber over the north (around 93 miles up while going over the north at the same speed and altitude [doing a perfect half circle while over the north]).

Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race. Psalms 19:5

You already know how looking toward the claimed south works in the claimed Southern Hemisphere; and how the stars continue to make a counterclockwise rotation above the world, as they are seen to go around the far side of the claimed Southern Hemisphere circle of stars (and are not really there, but only projected to be by the firmament [and are really going over the other side of the world, directly behind the observer at that moment]). If the sun did do a perfect circle above the world at all times, then everyone would be pointing to the same center of the world; called the geographical North Pole today, when drawing a perpendicular line through it’s course at solar noon and pointing toward the center of the world. But since the sun rises and therefore extends it’s course out over the south (and goes down and closes in that extended course back into making a perfect circle [only over the north]), that causes the dividing line drawn through the course of the sun at solar noon, not to point toward the claimed geographical North Pole for everyone in the world (and it definitely doesn’t point toward a [claimed] geographical South Pole because that doesn’t exist).

That is the reason the United States is not as wide as Australia, claimed east to claimed west; but Australia only has three time zones, while the continental United States has four. For most of the people in the continental United States, when they point toward the claimed geographical North Pole, they are mostly pointing in the correct direction (except for the claimed eastern [continental] United States that points slightly to the right, and the claimed western [continental] United States that points even less slightly to the left). Because of where Australia is and how the sun begins to rise (and extend it’s course) as it passes around 2/3 of the way past Australia, all of Australia is looking much further to the left of the direction of the claimed geographical North Pole when they think they are looking directly at it (than the United States looks to the right of it on the claimed east coast and slightly to the left of it on the claimed west coast).

So realize my brothers and sisters, every place in the world that is given their latitude and longitude, in the lying system of GPS, is just that – a lying system of a way to navigate, in a lying representation of God’s world. The world is not round. It is flat. Every place in the world is given their lying latitude and longitude as if they were over a globe world. That is the reason that direct flights from Houston, TX to anywhere in Australia go over Mexico; when a flight from Houston, TX to anywhere in Australia should not fly over Mexico at all.

It is the reason that direct flights from Perth to Sydney, Australia take much less time to fly than direct flights from Portland, OR to Boston, MA. The engines just work a little harder while on the flight from Perth to Sydney, than they do from Portland to Boston. Everything, from all of the pilot’s cockpit instruments, to your Smartphone that you have looking at your speedometer, are all plugged into the lying system of GPS that is constantly calculating what direction you should fly (telling you that you are flying a straight line when you are not); and how fast you are flying (when you are not flying that speed at all – only what the calculated speed is depending on where your position is at that moment – a position based on a lying position on a sphere). It is all lies.

For the greater deception, in the direct flights from Santiago, Chile to Sydney, Australia, and back, that could not possibly fly that fast to hide the deception, they fly to the claimed north of New Zealand, instead of to the claimed south of it on those flights. Looking at a video from Max Igan, you can see that on his direct flight from Santiago, Chile to Sydney, Australia, around ¾ of the way through his flight, while the onboard passenger monitor was showing that the plane was flying in a northwest direction, his personal magnetic compass was showing that the plane was flying in a west southwest direction. This proves that the plane was flying to the claimed north of New Zealand, instead of to the claimed south of it (where it should be flying if we were on a globe).
 
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AuntieAnt

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#85
I'm curious, Throughthedome. If NASA invited you on the next manned mission to the moon or to the International Space Station where you could see with your own eyes that the earth is round, would you believe it then? Or would you continue to believe you were being deceived somehow?
 
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#86
My brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ, every place in the world is given a latitude and longitude, in the lying system of latitude and longitude called the GPS; or Global Positioning System. That position is given it’s coordinates (latitude and longitude) because of how the exact same stars pass over them (latitude), and what time they pass over (longitude [in a sidereal day for the stars]). Solar noon for every place in the world, in the lying system of GPS, is the exact moment you can draw a perpendicular line through the course of the sun (through the actual middle of the sun); as it appears (it’s whole course line [from when it is first seen on the horizon, until it is last seen on the horizon], directly dividing it) in the sky above, to point to exactly where the geographical North Pole and geographical South Pole are from you.

The only problem with that, is that the sun rises and goes down above the world over the south; and then continues on through it’s chamber over the north (around 93 miles up while going over the north at the same speed and altitude [doing a perfect half circle while over the north]).

Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race. Psalms 19:5

You already know how looking toward the claimed south works in the claimed Southern Hemisphere; and how the stars continue to make a counterclockwise rotation above the world, as they are seen to go around the far side of the claimed Southern Hemisphere circle of stars (and are not really there, but only projected to be by the firmament [and are really going over the other side of the world, directly behind the observer at that moment]). If the sun did do a perfect circle above the world at all times, then everyone would be pointing to the same center of the world; called the geographical North Pole today, when drawing a perpendicular line through it’s course at solar noon and pointing toward the center of the world. But since the sun rises and therefore extends it’s course out over the south (and goes down and closes in that extended course back into making a perfect circle [only over the north]), that causes the dividing line drawn through the course of the sun at solar noon, not to point toward the claimed geographical North Pole for everyone in the world (and it definitely doesn’t point toward a [claimed] geographical South Pole because that doesn’t exist).

That is the reason the United States is not as wide as Australia, claimed east to claimed west; but Australia only has three time zones, while the continental United States has four. For most of the people in the continental United States, when they point toward the claimed geographical North Pole, they are mostly pointing in the correct direction (except for the claimed eastern [continental] United States that points slightly to the right, and the claimed western [continental] United States that points even less slightly to the left). Because of where Australia is and how the sun begins to rise (and extend it’s course) as it passes around 2/3 of the way past Australia, all of Australia is looking much further to the left of the direction of the claimed geographical North Pole when they think they are looking directly at it (than the United States looks to the right of it on the claimed east coast and slightly to the left of it on the claimed west coast).

So realize my brothers and sisters, every place in the world that is given their latitude and longitude, in the lying system of GPS, is just that – a lying system of a way to navigate, in a lying representation of God’s world. The world is not round. It is flat. Every place in the world is given their lying latitude and longitude as if they were over a globe world. That is the reason that direct flights from Houston, TX to anywhere in Australia go over Mexico; when a flight from Houston, TX to anywhere in Australia should not fly over Mexico at all.

It is the reason that direct flights from Perth to Sydney, Australia take much less time to fly than direct flights from Portland, OR to Boston, MA. The engines just work a little harder while on the flight from Perth to Sydney, than they do from Portland to Boston. Everything, from all of the pilot’s cockpit instruments, to your Smartphone that you have looking at your speedometer, are all plugged into the lying system of GPS that is constantly calculating what direction you should fly (telling you that you are flying a straight line when you are not); and how fast you are flying (when you are not flying that speed at all – only what the calculated speed is depending on where your position is at that moment – a position based on a lying position on a sphere). It is all lies.

For the greater deception, in the direct flights from Santiago, Chile to Sydney, Australia, and back, that could not possibly fly that fast to hide the deception, they fly to the claimed north of New Zealand, instead of to the claimed south of it on those flights. Looking at a video from Max Igan, you can see that on his direct flight from Santiago, Chile to Sydney, Australia, around ¾ of the way through his flight, while the onboard passenger monitor was showing that the plane was flying in a northwest direction, his personal magnetic compass was showing that the plane was flying in a west southwest direction. This proves that the plane was flying to the claimed north of New Zealand, instead of to the claimed south of it (where it should be flying if we were on a globe).
Joshua 10:13 KJV
[13] And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
 
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Susanna

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Joshua 10:13 KJV
[13] And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
I don’t know, but to me it looks like the verse is saying that the sun stood still on this one occasion, but that it usually didn’t.
 
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Joshua 10:13 KJV
[13] And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
I'm curious, Throughthedome. If NASA invited you on the next manned mission to the moon or to the International Space Station where you could see with your own eyes that the earth is round, would you believe it then? Or would you continue to believe you were being deceived somehow?
Do you believe the Bible?
“Joshua 10:13 KJV
[13] And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.”
Earth was the constant. I don’t want to believe the earth is flat but the evidence is conflicting. When I was first told that the earth rotated I knew that was wrong. I jumped up and down but nothing happened. Why didn’t the moving Earth move🤨 Planes landing north to to south at the equator do not compensate for the Earth rotation. That’s because there is no rotation.
 
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Belief in a flat earth stems from a failure to understand that God communicated his message in a language and level that people
receiving it could understand and that the truth contained in it is spiritual not necessarily factual in every case. If he had written the Bible today he would take our present knowledge about the world into account.
So what other miracles would be earased today. Guess God was wrong, he is not the same today as yesterday. No I go with the Bible.
Joshua 10:13 KJV
[13] And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
 
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I don’t know, but to me it looks like the verse is saying that the sun stood still on this one occasion, but that it usually didn’t.
The moon also stood still but only that day. You are correct. The sun and moon are normally moving.
 
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AuntieAnt,

Manned missions don’t land on the moon because it is only around six feet wide. There is no International Space Station to go to because what is being filmed on the claimed inside is done in a studio. What is being filmed on the claimed outside is done under water; as you can see bubbles in the footage from their claimed space walks. AuntieAnt, there is no outer space. What you see when you claim to see footage from the ISS is video taken from a high flying plane; a U-2, or some other type of high flying plane that is recording the world beneath them (the horizon in front of them); with a fish eye lens. That makes the world look round. They then take that footage and speed it up, and display it as if it is a round world that is passing under an International Space Station.

The truth about the world is all throughout the word of God. It is there for everyone to see. Believe it. Do not believe the lies of the enemy. Look how much we have been lied to. Look how great the lies are. The truth is the word of God. Stop doubting and believe.
 

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#92
The moon also stood still but only that day. You are correct. The sun and moon are normally moving.
Actually, the sun is stationary but it is the earth's rotation that makes it appear that it rises and sets. The language used to describe this is the same as it is today but it has to be figurative and not to be taken literal. It is just a means of expressing what appears to be happening each day. For the long day it had to do with the earth's rotation and not the sun.
 

tourist

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#93
The truth about the world is all throughout the word of God. It is there for everyone to see. Believe it. Do not believe the lies of the enemy. Look how much we have been lied to. Look how great the lies are. The truth is the word of God. Stop doubting and believe.
Who exactly is the enemy? Sun only 93 miles from the earth? Even the Flat Earth Society doesn't claim that. The moon only 6 feet wide? That's simply ridiculous. The moon affects the tides of the ocean, at six feet wide the effect would be negligible. Where do you come up with these numbers?
 
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Susanna

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Actually, the sun is stationary but it is the earth's rotation that makes it appear that it rises and sets. The language used to describe this is the same as it is today but it has to be figurative and not to be taken literal. It is just a means of expressing what appears to be happening each day. For the long day it had to do with the earth's rotation and not the sun.
Aww😅, now I can clearly see how incredibly stupid what I was writing is when reading it again😂😂. Of course the sun is stationary. People must think I’m a hardcore flat earther after that watershed post hahaha.
 
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tourist,

No, the bible is literal, and is to be taken literally. When it says that Jesus held seven stars in his hand, that means that he literally held seven stars in his hand. The sun is moving above the world, just as the bible says it is. The enemy is Satan. Yes, the sun is around 93 miles above the world as it passes over the north. The moon is the height of Rachel of the bible.

And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me. And he told it to his father, and to his brethren: and his father rebuked him, and said unto him, What is this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth? Genesis 37:9,10

In these scriptures, it means that the sun, moon, and 11 stars came around Joseph; that he could see, literally bowing down to him. That means that the sun and the moon were close enough to bow down to him. If they were the size that they are lied about today, they wouldn’t have been able to get close enough to bow down to him. This is the truth. It is the word of God. Then Jacob confirms that and references the size of the sun and the moon, as being the size of himself and Rachel. That is literal. It is the word of God. Believe it.

And the moon does not cause the tides to move. It is in the firmament and runs it’s course along with the sun and the rest of the stars above the world. That is the truth.
 

PennEd

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I'm curious, Throughthedome. If NASA invited you on the next manned mission to the moon or to the International Space Station where you could see with your own eyes that the earth is round, would you believe it then? Or would you continue to believe you were being deceived somehow?
I am not onboard yet with a lot of the flat Earth stuff, but I am convinced we did not go to the moon.
 

Prognostic

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Well come on everyone in this day and age knows the world is a sphere sorry Lord but it's just so funny how some people think the world isn't a sphere it really tickles me Lord you surely do have a great sense of humor in Heaven.

Lord Father I pray, may your good name prevail. Along with the complete and whole knowledge among all men of your beautiful and wonderful earth that the earth like every other vacuum packed mass of matter is automatically created spherical. Come on men come on. Stop this earth is flat and the sun and the moon are nothing but LED lights hang from a big crane theory madness please you're winding me up proper honest I just can't take you seriously right now are you kidding me whaaat!? LOL

So... we used to think the world was flat yes... But then we invented the satellite.

Boom!

Or do all flat earther thinks that EVERY satellite image EVER is faked? Sighh..

You know what brother?

Do you still believe in one another?
Hey sister
Do you still believe in love?
I wonder

Oh, if the sky comes falling down
For you, there's nothing in this world I wouldn't do

What if I'm far from home?
Oh brother, I will hear you call!
What if I lose it all?
Oh sister, I will help you out!
Oh, if the sky comes falling down
For you, there's nothing in this world I wouldn't do
 

AxeElf

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Manned missions don’t land on the moon because it is only around six feet wide.


...the lying system of latitude and longitude called the GPS...

That is the reason the United States is not as wide as Australia, claimed east to claimed west; but Australia only has three time zones, while the continental United States has four.
The part about the moon is comical, but the part about the time zones is hypocritical. You talk about the "lying" system of latitude and longitude, and then you tell a lie--that the United States is not as wide as Australia. In fact, the United States is a little more than 2800 miles across, while Australia is only a little more than 2400 miles across. And do you know what the width of Oregon is--you know, that fourth time zone across the breadth of the continental United States? Yep, it's that extra 400 miles.

I suppose you have some retort involving miles being longer in the northern hemisphere than they are in the southern hemisphere because of the parallax of the geometrical inversion, or some such excuse.

You know how we can be absolutely CERTAIN that the Earth is not flat? If the Earth was really flat, a vigilante mob of intelligentsia would have thrown you and your nonsense over the edge by now...

[mic drop]
 

Prognostic

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In Heaven angels roll around on the floor in laughter.
 
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AuntieAnt

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AuntieAnt,

Manned missions don’t land on the moon because it is only around six feet wide. There is no International Space Station to go to because what is being filmed on the claimed inside is done in a studio. What is being filmed on the claimed outside is done under water; as you can see bubbles in the footage from their claimed space walks. AuntieAnt, there is no outer space. What you see when you claim to see footage from the ISS is video taken from a high flying plane; a U-2, or some other type of high flying plane that is recording the world beneath them (the horizon in front of them); with a fish eye lens. That makes the world look round. They then take that footage and speed it up, and display it as if it is a round world that is passing under an International Space Station.

The truth about the world is all throughout the word of God. It is there for everyone to see. Believe it. Do not believe the lies of the enemy. Look how much we have been lied to. Look how great the lies are. The truth is the word of God. Stop doubting and believe.
Ok... so let's just say NASA did invite you to fly there and there was an Int'l Space Station... and you saw with your own two eyes that the earth was round, would you believe it then?