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Hevosmies

Hevosmies

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mailmandan said:
No and yet these deeds are the fruit of repentance (Matthew 3:8) and not the essence of repentance — “change of mind.”
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If repentance is a change of mind, the FRUIT of that change of mind should be CHANGE of BEHAVIOR in my humble opinion!
What else could it be?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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YourTruthGod said:
Obeying Jesus' teachings IS how to love others.
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No

Loving others is how we obey Jesus

You have it backwards my friend.

Jesus himself said Love God and Love others, and in DOING THIS you will fulfill the law.

Not fulfill the law and IN THIS you will show love
 
YourTruthGod

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TheDivineWatermark said:
At that site, it is just the verses containing the words/phrases you had supplied in your post (no commentary there).

It appears the part of my post that I had added after you [all] had grabbed my post, is missing, so I will add it here too:

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I also looked up the following verse:

https://biblehub.com/text/romans/6-3.htm

Romans 6:3 -

"Or are you unaware that as many as have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death?"

[this is not about "water baptism," by the way, for the readers]
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Water baptism is a ceremony, a symbol of what happens spiritually.
 
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Budman said:
It says to be as perfect as God. You're not gonna gain that through your own efforts. We are declared perfect through the blood of Jesus.
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Yep.

They love to show the verses, but they refuse to admit they can not do it..
 
Budman

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YourTruthGod said:
This is so sad and true. I know many people who say they believe in Jesus and believe that they are saved, yet they live their lives as always.
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Still waiting for your answer.

You said we have to stop sinning.

Have you stopped sinning?
 
YourTruthGod

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Budman said:
Have you?

I get the impression, from reading many of your posts, that you are just another self-righteous hypocrite who loves to hear his own pious platitudes.

Tell me: How many sins were not paid for by Christ? How many sins are attributed to us?
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Even the apostle Paul beat his body into submission so that he would not be disqualified as he preached salvation to others.
 
Hevosmies

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YourTruthGod said:
That is not true. We can stop sinning. Isn't there anything that you ever gave up for Jesus? Did you stop holding a grudge against those who sinned against you? Did you stop fornicating and get married? Did you stop getting drunk, etc. NOTE: Not you personally.
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You didnt write this to me but I iwll answer:

YES, i have made PLENTY Of life changes after getting saved.

BUT: Have I become SINLESS yet, NO SIR!

Just read my posts on here, I sin regularly by calling people names and behaving in a very non-Christian way. I just have a very low tolerance for nonsense.
 
FollowHisSteps

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Delusion

People claim to know Jesus, to have been christians for decades yet will deny Christs words
without blinking.

It amazes me how they will literally lie about Gods word and what He says and talk with
authority about others when Gods word contradicts them right away.

The danger has always been that people become enemies of God, being trapped in their
own bias and sin, and end up denying the simple gospel they believe they have believed in.

If one put Jesus first, you admit the word Jesus spoke and then put the real context you
believe applies to justify ones position. If one cannot do this and one denies the words
exist ones faith is empty, in vain, devoid of power and substance, doomed to judgement.
 
Budman

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FollowHisSteps said:
Delusion

People claim to know Jesus, to have been christians for decades yet will deny Christs words
without blinking.

It amazes me how they will literally lie about Gods word and what He says and talk with
authority about others when Gods word contradicts them right away.

The danger has always been that people become enemies of God, being trapped in their
own bias and sin, and end up denying the simple gospel they believe they have believed in.

If one put Jesus first, you admit the word Jesus spoke and then put the real context you
believe applies to justify ones position. If one cannot do this and one denies the words
exist ones faith is empty, in vain, devoid of power and substance, doomed to judgement.
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Don't you have some good works to do somewhere so you can keep your salvation?
 
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YourTruthGod said:
Even the apostle Paul beat his body into submission so that he would not be disqualified as he preached salvation to others.
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Yet he also admitted he sinned.

What he did is make sure he lived a life which was above reproach. He understood trying to be sinless was impossible.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Budman said:
Crap?

You think it's crap when he said we have to stop sinning and I asked the obvious question if he himself has stopped sinning?

Your real side is creeping out, Bub.
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It always does.. Just give it time
 
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