Not By Works
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I just looked up the phrase "repent of sin" [this site shows also the plural form, etc]:
https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=repent+of+sin&qs_version=KJV
...and your other phrase you'd put in your post #92,958 [Page 4648], "die to sin" [2 pgs]:
https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=die+to+sin&qs_version=KJV
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I also looked up the following verse:
https://biblehub.com/text/romans/6-3.htm
Romans 6:3 -
"Or are you unaware that as many as have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death?"
[this is not about "water baptism," by the way, for the readers]
https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=repent+of+sin&qs_version=KJV
...and your other phrase you'd put in your post #92,958 [Page 4648], "die to sin" [2 pgs]:
https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=die+to+sin&qs_version=KJV
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I also looked up the following verse:
https://biblehub.com/text/romans/6-3.htm
Romans 6:3 -
"Or are you unaware that as many as have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death?"
[this is not about "water baptism," by the way, for the readers]
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Said as someone without a defense.
Yeah, I drew it. Stevie Wonder could see what you're up to.
You believe we must do works and be obedient in order to remain saved. That is the very definition of legalism and self-righteousness. You are relying on your own deeds, and not the finished work of Christ to keep you saved.
No matter how much flowery language you use to deny it.
You're about to take your ball and go home, aren't ya?
Yeah, I drew it. Stevie Wonder could see what you're up to.
You believe we must do works and be obedient in order to remain saved. That is the very definition of legalism and self-righteousness. You are relying on your own deeds, and not the finished work of Christ to keep you saved.
No matter how much flowery language you use to deny it.
You're about to take your ball and go home, aren't ya?
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You will find believers, or they call themselves this who have no issue staying in sin and continuing
to sin. This is nothing new.
A brother in Christ had a friend, an alcoholic who had affairs yet claimed to be saved, lived his christian
life with as much enthusiasm as the next believer or so it appeared.
So you also get people who justify this theologically as well.
And their tactic is to say everyone who holds to walking like Jesus is a legalist pharisee.
The problem is in a nice legal society with middle class behaviour you can get away with this way of
life and think things carry on. When things get tough and lives are on the line, you soon learn people
just die and it is death to behave like this.
So they walk into hell believing they know Jesus, while lying to everyone else it is those who walk
like Jesus are the true deceivers. Not surprisingly such churches built on this foundation do not last
long.
to sin. This is nothing new.
A brother in Christ had a friend, an alcoholic who had affairs yet claimed to be saved, lived his christian
life with as much enthusiasm as the next believer or so it appeared.
So you also get people who justify this theologically as well.
And their tactic is to say everyone who holds to walking like Jesus is a legalist pharisee.
The problem is in a nice legal society with middle class behaviour you can get away with this way of
life and think things carry on. When things get tough and lives are on the line, you soon learn people
just die and it is death to behave like this.
So they walk into hell believing they know Jesus, while lying to everyone else it is those who walk
like Jesus are the true deceivers. Not surprisingly such churches built on this foundation do not last
long.
Aim for perfection
2 cor 13:11
Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect
Matt 5:48
God is calling us to perfection. It is obvious who is listening to God and who is not.
Dear Lord, open the eyes of your people to believe the impossible through the cross has been
made possible, and you can heal the hearts of those who would call out to you,
In Jesus Christs name, Amen.
2 cor 13:11
Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect
Matt 5:48
God is calling us to perfection. It is obvious who is listening to God and who is not.
Dear Lord, open the eyes of your people to believe the impossible through the cross has been
made possible, and you can heal the hearts of those who would call out to you,
In Jesus Christs name, Amen.
At that site, it is just the verses containing the words/phrases you had supplied in your post (no commentary there).
It appears the part of my post that I had added after you [all] had grabbed my post, is missing, so I will add it here too:
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I also looked up the following verse:
https://biblehub.com/text/romans/6-3.htm
Romans 6:3 -
"Or are you unaware that as many as have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death?"
[this is not about "water baptism," by the way, for the readers]
It appears the part of my post that I had added after you [all] had grabbed my post, is missing, so I will add it here too:
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I also looked up the following verse:
https://biblehub.com/text/romans/6-3.htm
Romans 6:3 -
"Or are you unaware that as many as have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death?"
[this is not about "water baptism," by the way, for the readers]
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