Not By Works

[eternally-gratefull]

I apologise. I excuse peoples sin. I am now going to react like you are doing.
Here are my words in this role - "That is a lie and a slander, you sinner, off with your head"

I am literally saying, forgive, show mercy, and feel someones pain and thrust of argument.

We have different approaches. I desire to get alongside people and hear them.
If what I am sharing does not chime with your heart, so be it. I am trying to understand you my friend.

And I do not agree with people, but I want to give them space to express who they are.
Jesus accepts me and works with me as I am, so I need to do the same with others.

If you just said forgive show mercy, i would have agreed

But your not just saying that, get real man.

Are you sure your not peter?

 

[heavenhelpimtired]

I guess this poster thinks he knows more then the mods and most others, who knew different. Even thise who were sorry to see hm go admitted what he did was wrong,

Are you nonewsman returned? Seems like you (He) used this same excuse when you (he) yelled at a young sister who gave him a read x, when you (he) was confronted about that incident.

Did you ever find that book you said you owned called the book of Naomi...I think I read were you said you had one at home????

I hope you find that book and send a picture....I wouldn't you to be accused of lying...........

 

[FollowHisSteps]

What if a thread is moving so fast and one is being attacked on every side and he honesty didn't see someone's response, only that they have given you red x and he reponds by saying so.

And then someone else, who he wasn't even talking to cries out "hahahah Liar Liar, Crucify him"

The Bible teaches us not to judge a matter until you hear the conclusion of matter.......

Until then we should probably say "my name's paul, that's between y'all"
Or say
"My names Bennet and I ain't in it"

I wonder at the art of becoming a king of the mountain, using words, religious ideas, picking a battle cry,
and then metaphorically slaying all comers.

I do love the interplay, and how to get better at the rules.
But when the players think they are playing a real game, thats when it goes pear shaped.

The real game is to be like Jesus, transformed through the Holy Spirit working in our hearts.
But sadly few know the bible that well, and His words do not dwell in their hearts unless it confirms
their bias. No wonder, our hearts need to say every day we are ok, or else why would we get out of bed.

I just want to meet Jesus and embrace Him, because He is Lord, and my friend.
His words I once did not understand, and now ring truer than anything else I have found, a true
jewel hidden in a field I was able to buy. Amen.

 

[Hevosmies]

proof of eternal security 100% irrefutable:


Joh 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
Joh 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
Joh 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

I highlighted the word "I know them" because Jesus KNOWS the sheep. Now this proves sheep will always be sheep:

Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

There Jesus casts folks into hell and He NEVER knew them, not used to know them but the sheep evolutionized into goats! Those who are sent to hell there were never saved cause "I NEVER knew you"

 

[dcontroversal]

False teaching is a serious thing with dire consequences for the saved who fall for its delusion and the unsaved who do not hear the true Gospel

I have no doubt there is an all out assault on the truth presently.....

Salvation is a one time event. It is not a lifelong process.
The True Gospel is Once Saved Always Saved, Eternal Security, No Works Required, all provided freely by the Grace of God.

100% agree.......on all fronts we see the truth being assailed.....rank and file the enemy is deep and coming over the wall...and the bad thing.....just like left wing politicians that wish to coddle Islam.....many so called believers think we should coddle false teachers.......

 

[Hevosmies]

^Lets see how those politicians manage after they see the true nature of these guys they are bringing in in droves!

Unlike most of you, i live in EUROPE and we are having it ENMASSE!
They are taking over and telling us how to live. Left wing polliticians like brother dcon said are on their side! as are the liberal people! DECEIVED!

There has been a crimewave here and we cant deport them quick enough, they go "MISSING" when deportation comes! Or they get locked up in our prisons which costs people money of course and are way better than teh prisons in their home countries

Top that off with: We got hatespeech laws! We dont have freedom of speech like you guys do in America! TRUST ME we dont! I might be doing hatespeech by typing this message!

 

[dcontroversal]

The pope has no interest in a hard line approach, he is a fake and a fraud, and has the blood on his hands of innocent children, his main focus presently is building a one world religion.

And I could say a lot worse but I will not, to spare the audience the depth of his evil.

I have no problem in saying he is not of GOD and a false prophet.......

 

[heavenhelpimtired]

I guess this poster thinks he knows more then the mods and most others, who knew different. Even thise who were sorry to see hm go admitted what he did was wrong,

Are you nonewsman returned? Seems like you (He) used this same excuse when you (he) yelled at a young sister who gave him a read x, when you (he) was confronted about that incident.

What's this young woman a preacher or your pastor? Is that what offended you so

 

[heavenhelpimtired]

^Lets see how those politicians manage after they see the true nature of these guys they are bringing in in droves!

Unlike most of you, i live in EUROPE and we are having it ENMASSE!
They are taking over and telling us how to live. Left wing polliticians like brother dcon said are on their side! as are the liberal people! DECEIVED!

Hey you live in Europe..... Cool what time is it there

 

[dcontroversal]

What if that post was intended as a joke.........I mean if you read it slow it is hilarious!

Maybe GNM thought he was talking to people who knew after reading that long funny post that there was no such book in the Bible as the book of Naomi!!!

If that is true can you imagine the laughs he got reading the responding posts? Especially that guy who took a fake book Naomi and turned it into Nahum and called him a false prophet. Or those researching a noexistant book called Naomi AND FOUND ONE then called him a Mormon.

I remember our pastor doing this during our Bible drill games.....right in the middle of the game he would make up a Bible name and say "find the book of Hezekiah 2:12.......kids scramble to find it......fun times

His denial of the following representing Judas as a lost man that was never saved was no joke........

a. Jesus knew who WOULD NOT BELIEVE --->JUDAS
b. Jesus knew who was not clean --->JUDAS
c. Jesus knew who WAS A DEVIL --->JUDAS
d. Jesus knew who would betray him and chose him to fulfill scripture --->Judas
e. Jesus knew who was a thief -->Judas
f. Jesus knew who was THE SON of PERDITION --->Judas

ONE must BELIEVE to be saved....."A" on the list PROVES he was NEVER SAVED and then LOST it.....which is a fallacy anyway

 

[dcontroversal]

So let me get this straight. You join the site like 5 minutes ago, read back 10+ pages of a thread of 90,000 posts you randomly chose, give an explanation as if you are intimately familiar with all the moving parts, and then think the whole exercise is funny?

Are you REALLY a pastor? Cause something doesn't pass the smell test here.

Notice the name...same threewordstyle !!!!!

 

[FollowHisSteps]

If you just said forgive show mercy, i would have agreed
But your not just saying that, get real man.
Are you sure your not peter?

So you do not want to know people and their pain?
How can you love another without feeling their pain?

We are called to have love for others

Put on then, as God’s chosen ones, holy and beloved, compassionate hearts, kindness, humility, meekness, and patience,
col 3:12

You make me think maybe I am wrong, we should actually hate evil doers and judge them to Hell.
"Get real." Sounds like the legalist, once a sinner always a sinner tribe........

 

[dcontroversal]

Wb, which one are you? Its obvious you have a new nic?

Hilariously sad hey.............these workers for that constantly do those things which they say causes the loss of salvation HAHAHAHH WOW!

 

[mailmandan]

I would rather believe what the scripture say than what men who nullify the law of God which God has commanded from the beginning and which the deceiver has been going against to suppress the truth and instill in our minds that it is OK to disobey God because if we are OSAS, we will not surely die which surely contradict the TRUTH.

Instead of throwing questions to reverse a situation, better be honest to answer a question or a request for you to show a scripture that says that we are justified by FAITH ALONE.

The difference with OSAS from non OSAS is that you reject and nullify certain scriptures or twist them to say otherwise which non OSAS have no need to do.

Did Jesus and His disciples teach that if they have WORKS that could move mountains but have no LOVE, you are NOTHING?

Did they ever teach DISOBEDIENCE TO GOD?

Do you not IMPLY or SUGGEST by saying that you are saved by FAITH ALONE that Jesus is a WORKS SALVATIONIST for teaching that we should obey the commandments if we want to ENTER LIFE, get ETERNAL LIFE or be IN HIM (see Matthew 19:16-30 & 1 John 2:3-6) in the same way that you call those who disagree with OSAS?

Where in scripture did the FATHER, THE SON and THE HOLY SPIRIT say that ONCE you are SAVED, you are ALWAYS SAVED? Kindly show us that we might be EDIFIED and not be DECEIVED by a FALSE TEACHING.

Thanks in advance and may God bless you.

Your erroneous doctrines and straw man arguments have already been refuted numerous times and you have already been shown the truth found in scripture that man is saved through faith and not by works and that obedience/works is the FRUIT of salvation but NOT THE ROOT of it, yet you insist on continuing to confuse DESCRIPTIVE passages of scripture with PRESCRIPTIVE passages of scripture and the end result is salvation by works.

You have also been shown the truth found in scripture that genuine believers (whose faith is firmly rooted and established) are eternally secure in Christ, yet you continue to see and believe only what you want to see and believe, so I really see no point in continuing to waste my time beating a dead horse.

Only the Lord can open your eyes to the truth and I sincerely hope and pray that one day you will accept the truth.

 

[BillG]

Unlike most of you, i live in EUROPE and we are having it ENMASSE!

I live in Europe.

Although in one month we will not be in it.

 

[GodsGrace101]

It is easy to become a rabble, label the "heretic" and then burn him on the pyre.
The rabble can become a group of loosely associated people who know what they want to achieve.

And the motivation is to be able to push someone so they look so bad they are removed from the community.
We know this is what goes on, the question is, is the behaviour that which the Lord calls us to?

Unfortunately religious groups are very easy to push in this way.
It is why christians are dying round the world, often at the hands of muslims.

So is the Holy Spirit moving, or just the repeat of the way the world works and manipulation dominates?

Yes!
We should stick together and be in accord...
even if we disagree on a doctrine.

This is why I say Protestantism is in trouble..
we're too divided...too many different churches because one little, tiny, teaching is different...so a charismatic person will leave the main church...go make his own...and take followers with him.

This is not what Jesus meant to happen. He said. My church, not My churches.
(with a small c).

This is very upsetting to me...I don't mind saying.
I left a church that was very united because I didn't agree with the doctrine...
And within the last 40 to 50 years some doctrine has crept into protestantism that DID NOT EXIST BEFORE.

What are we to do?
Just accept it? Sit back and accept man-made doctrine and no the Lord's?
Or should we do as the early church did and insist on not accepting heresies.
Yes,,,heresies. After all what does heresy mean?

Any teaching that is not in accord with mainline beliefs.
Are heresies going to become mainline because they sound good to man?

I pray not.

In Genesis 2:15 God takes the man and put him in the Garden to cultivate it and keep it.
This might be called work by some. I call it God's plan for man...Ephesians 2:10

In Genesis 2:16-17 God gave Adam a commandment: From this tree you will not eat.

WILL NOT does not mean that God will not cause the man to do some action or other...
It means that God does NOT WANT man to do that action.

So God demands obedience from the beginning of our time...
Adam failed, as do we all. And for this he and Eve were kicked out of the Garden.

God demands obedience all the way through Revelation.
And yet I hearsay that it is no longer necessary...

God does it all.
No. God did HIS part...now we do ours.

Or Christanity has been changed forever.
And God does not change.....

 

[dcontroversal]

In my waaay too long party yrs, I was a big Doors fan. This talk about being with friends and loved ones in hell reminded me of "When the music's over" Unfortunately for so many, they find out too late that cancelling your subscription to the resurrection, and being sent to the house of detention, IN NO WAY is going mean you will be with your friends and loved ones who are also there.



“Cancel my subscription to the Resurrection
Send my credentials to the House of Detention
I got some friends inside"

And he soon died after marrying a witch and drinking blood in the ceremony......I watched an interview with him in the which he admitted to killing a man on a highway one night and he stated the mans spirit "leapt" into his soul and was there to that very day

 

[GodsGrace101]

Surely obedience is manifest in some measure as works correct? Be it prayer, preaching and proclaiming, denial of the world, succor, alms and so on and so forth?

Agreed?

Are you saying the above are works?
I mean,,, I'm ready to hear anything nowadays.

 

[FollowHisSteps]

Did you ever find that book you said you owned called the book of Naomi...I think I read were you said you had one at home????

I hope you find that book and send a picture....I wouldn't you to be accused of lying...........

You make me laugh, really laugh.

This is people getting so high on their high horse, coming with the tanks, artillery and bombs
and then blowing themselves up.

Children need a safe place to learn and grow. In this safe place they can do what they like, but
they will get gently put right. Here we have tin pot dictators, one "crime" and booom, you spawn
of satan, burn them, here is the pyre ..............

Maybe it is a puritan southern baptist type thing ...... I only see these people on line so I do not know .....
sorry if I am slandering the puritan southern baptists ...... they are very blessed men and women of God.

I can see the pyre being built for me, ohhh no, I am so sorry, but hey, thank you Jesus for being released.

 

[dcontroversal]

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Your erroneous doctrines and straw man arguments have already been refuted numerous times and you have already been shown the truth found in scripture that man is saved through faith and not by works and that obedience/works is the FRUIT of salvation but NOT THE ROOT of it, yet you insist on continuing to confuse DESCRIPTIVE passages of scripture with PRESCRIPTIVE passages of scripture and the end result is salvation by works.

You have also been shown the truth found in scripture that genuine believers (whose faith is firmly rooted and established) are eternally secure in Christ, yet you continue to see and believe only what you want to see and believe, so I really see no point in continuing to waste my time beating a dead horse.

Only the Lord can open your eyes to the truth and I sincerely hope and pray that one day you will accept the truth.

Kind of like the Joker being used a wild card....my brother and I used to use deuces, jokers, one eyed jacks as wild cards HAHAHHA when playing poker as kids.......we were always getting 5 aces or a Royal Flush........