He never has to worry about the loss of salvation anyway....it is not losable nor can it be forfeited like like a little league ball game due to a lack of players......
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He never has to worry about the loss of salvation anyway....it is not losable nor can it be forfeited like like a little league ball game due to a lack of players......
It doesn't require faith to know that fire is hot.
Every human being knows this.
And would you explain how saying that we must obey God is distorting the image of His love when it's God, in the person of Jesus Christ that states this over and over.
Where does it say we should NOT obey Him?
Why do you have such a big problem with this?
If you're not saved...you don't need to obey a God you don't believe exists.
If you are saved...you do need to obey God.
You don't believe you have to obey God???
I fear for some...maybe not you.
"lead many to the pit" - can believers be led to the pit, or only unbelievers? And if believers cannot be deceived,
what are you worried about? Unbelievers being deceived, but that is what they are anyway.
Do all greeks know God? What is a religious fallacy?
Such lose ideas seem confusing. Is God a God of confusion or clarity?
Name some religious fallicies that come from not knowing Greek.
It would be interesting....
Sure Dcon.
Keep preaching...
Keep allowing some to become lost because they believed YOU and not the word of God...Jesus.
@Hevosmies is smart...he likes to understand things of God on his own and not parrot what you say like some on this thread do.
It's good for us to understand scripture on our own.
You mislead the saved into false doctrine.
Aim for perfection 2 Corinthians 13:11
So I strive always to keep my conscience clear before God and man. Acts 24:16
Are the above optional ideas, or the core of following Jesus?
It is strange how some claim to follow Pauls teaching so easily despise his heart and approach.
So I strive always to keep my conscience clear before God and man. Acts 24:16
Are the above optional ideas, or the core of following Jesus?
It is strange how some claim to follow Pauls teaching so easily despise his heart and approach.
D
DOHERETICSFORFEITHEAVEN
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Where do you think an incomplete faith will get you?
So far, you have proven nothing but the fact that...
a. You are not honest
b. Have no understanding of the word Saint
c. Reject the definition of the word heretic as given by the GREEK language which the N.T. was inspired in
d. Will twist away from a truthful answer while claiming obedience
e. Make flippant comments
Go back to Sunday school....get right then maybe something you say will have some weight
YOU are the one that said you don't care to throw your pearls at my feet.
Do you remember?
Do I have to look for the post?
I think I'm rather very nice, considering what is said about ME.
I'll get back to you tomorrow.
It's almost 11 pm here.
Too tired.
Fran...he already knows that most of what you said is tainted and twisted.....why would he want to go over anything with you?
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NoNameMcgee
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No humans have to first obtain the information... usually a warning from a parent... to learn that fire is hot..
If you say God can save someone from a just punishment, adopt them as His son.... only later to throw them in the lake of fire... you are distorting the truth with false information and it reflects on Gods character.
I do not obey Him to keep what He gave me, I obey Him out of gratitude and only by His power.
If/when I fall short of PERFECTION, Or walk in the spirit, He knows my heart before and after, He placed it in me after all...
Your fear can't trump the truth... I will continue to believe in Gods promises, couldn't stop if I wanted....
Dear D,
It NEVER HURTS to post the truth.
How many times do I have to repeat that I post also for those reading along that may never even post.
The truth MUST be told.
Even if some refuse to believe it.
John 8:31-32
31So Jesus was saying to those Jews who had believed Him, “If you continue in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine;
32and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.”
Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated
Romans 9:13
Jacob struggled, Esau was a worldly man, took the easy way.
Are we like Jesus or do we need to change?
For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain.
Philippians 1:21
Ambition, heros in Gods army, servant of the King, noble ambassadors of our Lord most High.
Honoured guests at the wedding of the Lord to His bride the Church.
To some it sounds like they are failed dirty criminals who have never got cleaned up.
Romans 9:13
Jacob struggled, Esau was a worldly man, took the easy way.
Are we like Jesus or do we need to change?
For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain.
Philippians 1:21
Ambition, heros in Gods army, servant of the King, noble ambassadors of our Lord most High.
Honoured guests at the wedding of the Lord to His bride the Church.
To some it sounds like they are failed dirty criminals who have never got cleaned up.
D
DOHERETICSFORFEITHEAVEN
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People choose to go to hell. They chose to lose God; God did not lose them.
I clearly made my point in post #85,711. What don’t you understand?
https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/not-by-works.146296/page-4286#post-3851659
I suggest you put the comic books down and actually study FAITH and the SOURCE of FAITH and what is said about the source instead of listening to who ever the deceiver s that has been teaching you....
My bible teaches the following
GOD deals unto men a measure of FAITH and JESUS...
a. Begins it
b. Finishes it
c. Completes it
It must be tragic to serve such a weak god that needs your help to do that which the bible states he will do......that right there is religion for you........religion takes out a little of JESUS and injects SELF into the equation.......and in so doing peddles a false dogma with no power to save a flea, much less a man....
D
DOHERETICSFORFEITHEAVEN
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Fran, you have serious comprehensive issues....go read again that whole discourse and this time stay quiet long enough to actually READ what was said.................wow
D
DOHERETICSFORFEITHEAVEN
Guest
If have an incomplete faith, is it because you failed Jesus, or, are you going to claim Jesus failed you?
I am commanding you to use the word "Saints" correctly.
They refuse to answer us enlightened ones as they wallow in their shame.
COMMANDING ME hAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHA excatly who do you think you are.....nobody