These two guys are super duper Christians......
What I am talking about is what God intends the NORM to be for Christians, not super duper Christians who do not exist.
Like when my daughter had a piano recital.
Did she play like a person that had been playing for decades? No.
Would I have been more proud of her if she had?
No, I could not possibly have been more proud.
If you walk according to what you have attained, God is pleased, whether you are a new Christian that makes alot of mistakes or a mature Christian that makes few.
I was proud of my 1 year old granddaughter when she took her first steps, even though she was not running like a marathon racer and even though she fell down a few times. But she was walking according to what she had attained, and I COULD NOT HAVE BEEN MORE PROUD if she had busted out in a full ballet routine at 1 years old.
You don't even try to understand what people are saying, at least not me