Not By Works

[dcontroversal]

As you gave dcontroversials post the thumbs up when he stated what is the basis of the new covenant was given to Jews who wanted to go back to an inferior way, I cannot take seriously anything you now write

I never said that pal...you better go back and read what all has been said pal....

 

[unclesilas]

I never said that at all.....you need to lay off the juice....

You wrote, in response to me quoting heb10:16&17, and I quote:

Let me tell you pal....yanking two verses out of the midst of HEBREWS which was written to JEWISH believers that wanted to go back under an inferior way to PROVE or ASK for my view on the foundation of the NEW COVENANT does not qualify as a valid question...….

 

[dcontroversal]

I will happily copy paste it again as many times as you like

Go ahead deceiver........maybe you cannot read English or have comprehension issues......

 

[dcontroversal]

You wrote, in response to me quoting heb10:16&17, and I quote:

Let me tell you pal....yanking two verses out of the midst of HEBREWS which was written to JEWISH believers that wanted to go back under an inferior way to PROVE or ASK for my view on the foundation of the NEW COVENANT does not qualify as a valid question...….

Exactly....now...where do you see me SAYING this --->So someone who has read the greek and gone to semestas/seminars believes the basis on which the new covenant stands was solely written to Jewish believers that wanted to go back under an inferior wa

 

[unclesilas]

Go ahead deceiver........maybe you cannot read English or have comprehension issues......

Now why can you just not be honest, don't let pride be a stumblingblock. You fouled up big time didn't you.

 

[dcontroversal]

SO IF SOMEONE DOESNT BELIEVE JUST LIKE YOU, ARE YOU DOUBTING THERE SALVATION?

SURELY YOU DONT BELIEVE YOUR GOD IS A WEAK LIAR DO YOU?

IS IT 0SAS SO LONG AS THE PERSON BELIEVES OSAS? DO YOU ASK NEW CONVERTS IN YOUR CHURCH WHEN THEY GET UP FROM THE ALTAR IF THEY BELIEVE JUST LIKE YOU?

No, I do not have to doubt anything...the bible is clear....you believe it can be lost...YES....so what must YOU do to KEEP IT?

That is not faith nor is it biblical......plain as day...

Do you believe there I more than one gospel...??

Get your facts straight

 

[unclesilas]

Exactly....now...where do you see me SAYING this --->So someone who has read the greek and gone to semestas/seminars believes the basis on which the new covenant stands was solely written to Jewish believers that wanted to go back under an inferior wa

This is what you wrote:

Let me tell you pal....yanking two verses out of the midst of HEBREWS which was written to JEWISH believers that wanted to go back under an inferior way to PROVE or ASK for my view on the foundation of the NEW COVENANT does not qualify as a valid question...….

 

[Macabeus]

The fact that someone says you have to be a mature believer to bear fruit shows the flaw of "easy believism"

salvation is of God, is a gift, and is not of ourselves (I wholly agree)

but what we do afterwards, according to some like Dcon is of ourselves, not a gift, and based on our ability and will

This is a recipe for disaster and failure

Think about it.

 

[dcontroversal]

Now why can you just not be honest, don't let pride be a stumblingblock. You fouled up big time didn't you.

No..I did not foul up anything....YOU are the one that quoted HEBREWS asked ME a QUESTION and my response was what I quoted....you must be delusional

 

[Goodnewsman]

HAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH I have not seen one take a statement so far out of context to peddle a false, dishonest statement.....how can you stand behind a pulpit and preach to people while being so dishonest with the word of GOD?

NO honesty, no shame and no truth.........you should stand up tomorrow night and apologize and resign for being so dishonest with the word

The above bolded statement and then ensuing opinion = no honesty whatsoever at all....

You talk real big typing your junk out on your keyboard. if you want to met me on the street i promise you i would shut your big mouth up!
i would run up to you so fast, reach out and shake your hand, hug your neck and tell you "i love you"

 

[dcontroversal]

This is what you wrote:

Let me tell you pal....yanking two verses out of the midst of HEBREWS which was written to JEWISH believers that wanted to go back under an inferior way to PROVE or ASK for my view on the foundation of the NEW COVENANT does not qualify as a valid question...….

You are either seriously confused or as dense as lead........

 

[UnderGrace]

As you gave dcontroversials post the thumbs up when he stated what is the basis of the new covenant was given to Jews who wanted to go back to an inferior way, I cannot take seriously anything you now write

Wow, of course hard to accept what is written in that letter to Hebrews so plainly

In my experience people always shut down a conversation when they feel threatened.

 

[dcontroversal]

You talk real big typing your junk out on your keyboard. if you want to met me on the street i promise you i would shut your big mouth up!
i would run up to you so fast, reach out and shake your hand, hug your neck and tell you "i love you"

Highly unlikely.......

 

[Historyanswers]

who are the spiritual children and who are the skeletons of faith.

if you can only think world war 1 and 2 is only a history lesson in modern day schools

i suppose that s gods problem to work out.

 

[UnderGrace]

You are either seriously confused or as dense as lead........

More shock....what church is this??

 

[dcontroversal]

Wow, of course hard to accept what is written in that letter to Hebrews so plainly

In my experience people always shut down a conversation when they feel threatened.

Do you see what he is accusing me of.....HAHAHAHHA saying I said this when I said nothing of the sorts.....I bet everyone watching has a bag of popcorn HAHAH

 

[unclesilas]

No..I did not foul up anything....YOU are the one that quoted HEBREWS asked ME a QUESTION and my response was what I quoted....you must be delusional

No, the truth is in what you stated, you did not even know that is the basis on which the new covenant stands did you, you had another explanation. But as this is your life, coming here and preaching as you do, admitting to such error would be unthinkable, so you have to try and wriggle out of it, which you cannot do.
Some people shout loudly and think they know much, but empty vessels make the most noise

 

[UnderGrace]

The fact that someone says you have to be a mature believer to bear fruit shows the flaw of "easy believism"

salvation is of God, is a gift, and is not of ourselves (I wholly agree)

but what we do afterwards, according to some like Dcon is of ourselves, not a gift, and based on our ability and will

This is a recipe for disaster and failure

Think about it.

No it is the reality of the dual nature of the believer, the flesh, the workings of Satan and the lure of the world which you seem to want to deny although Paul continually warns about them.

 

[unclesilas]

Wow, of course hard to accept what is written in that letter to Hebrews so plainly

In my experience people always shut down a conversation when they feel threatened.

Its impossible to accept dcons explanation of it that you gave a thumbs up to. The covenant starts when sacrifices for sin are no longer necessary. When was that?

 

[Goodnewsman]

I know....no honesty or integrity and yet he pastors a church of 75 in his own home........note the yanked out of context by Peter..........

i never said i was putting it in its context....all i said was "peter talks about people who are willingly ignorant"

are you willingly ignorant????